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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 22 2012 05:12 GMT
#19801
Ah wait for the window version they give you a front fan too, along with the toolless hard drive mounts. Those three things make up the ~$10 typical price difference or whatever.

There's a black version too btw.
kaifragrance
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada50 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 12:14:34
March 22 2012 12:10 GMT
#19802
On March 22 2012 14:12 Myrmidon wrote:
Ah wait for the window version they give you a front fan too, along with the toolless hard drive mounts. Those three things make up the ~$10 typical price difference or whatever.

There's a black version too btw.


You mean the Antec 1100? o.o
1 x rear 120 mm exhaust fan (standard)
1 x top 200 mm blue LED exhaust fan with LED switch (standard)
2 x front 120 mm intake fans (optional)

Anyway, just wondering...
Would moving the rear fan to the front be better? 'Cause heat already goes upward anyway, so the top fan should exhaust on well enough its own. This way I can keep my hard drives cooler. Thoughts?

edit: Nevermind. You meant the Bitfenix. I didn't think it could intake from the front. :O
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
March 22 2012 12:51 GMT
#19803
Question for you Skyr, i've been reading reviews for the Lian Li PC-A05 and ir fits my needs perfectly but, they say that it is recomended if dual gpu that "If you are running higher end GPUs then it is highly recommended that you add a top blow hole."
for that "Most of us modify the top and add a Blowhole Fan or buy the replacement top panel (T-LM14B-2) which is a replacement Top and has a cut out and Shroud for a 140mm fan. Unfortunately these seem to be out of stock just about everywhere. It is best to use a 4 1/2 inch Hole saw with a drill attachment."
is it easily done?

from http://www.overclock.net/t/880913/the-official-lian-li-pc-a05-club
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
March 22 2012 12:54 GMT
#19804
On March 22 2012 21:10 kaifragrance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2012 14:12 Myrmidon wrote:
Ah wait for the window version they give you a front fan too, along with the toolless hard drive mounts. Those three things make up the ~$10 typical price difference or whatever.

There's a black version too btw.


You mean the Antec 1100? o.o
1 x rear 120 mm exhaust fan (standard)
1 x top 200 mm blue LED exhaust fan with LED switch (standard)
2 x front 120 mm intake fans (optional)

Anyway, just wondering...
Would moving the rear fan to the front be better? 'Cause heat already goes upward anyway, so the top fan should exhaust on well enough its own. This way I can keep my hard drives cooler. Thoughts?

edit: Nevermind. You meant the Bitfenix. I didn't think it could intake from the front. :O


No. Moving a lot of air on it's own isn't the point. Directing the air flow to the places it's needed most is.
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 15:06:13
March 22 2012 14:10 GMT
#19805
I wanted to order these parts this week..

Intel Core i3 2120 & DVD Burner @ $135
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.846601

EVGA GTX 460 & GSkill Ripjaws 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $176
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.851695

Asrock H61M-VS @ $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241

Antec Earthwatts 500D @ $50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371035

Bitfenix Merc Alpha @ $35
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63256&promoid=1215

However, these two went up in price:

EVGA GTX 460 & GSkill Ripjaws 2x4GB 1333MHz @ NOW 195
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.851695

Antec Earthwatts 500D @ NOW 70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371035

Is this a viable alternative?

Antec EarthWatts Green EA-430D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371034

And I have yet to find one for the gpu combo.
alQahira
Profile Joined June 2011
United States511 Posts
March 22 2012 15:38 GMT
#19806
xeo1, doesn't a 6850 outperform a gtx 460? So something like http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.851763 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.851650 should work and save you money.



xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 15:45:45
March 22 2012 15:43 GMT
#19807
On March 23 2012 00:38 alQahira wrote:
xeo1, doesn't a 6850 outperform a gtx 460? So something like http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.851763 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.851650 should work and save you money.





I think I read they're about the same, but the reason I'd like to get the gtx 460 is because it's in a combo deal with the memory. Even though the price increased $20, it's still cheaper than buying them separate.

Edit: wow didn't realize that is also a combo:D thanks I'll just get that then
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 15:48:06
March 22 2012 15:45 GMT
#19808
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182068

I'd go with this PSU(Cant find capstone 450?)

And for graphics card I'd go with this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908

and this for ram:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576006


And no it's not cheaper to buy them in combo wtf, it wasn't even when the combo was at its cheapest.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.851650
This combo's an alternative like he mentioned, no real difference. Actually the other one's 2 dollars more so you can get it too if you like, doesn't really matter at all though
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 15:55:02
March 22 2012 15:54 GMT
#19809
Capstone 550W is really nice but severely overkill. Rosewill Green Series 430W is okay and is only $36:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182202

I mean, this build is using an i3, H61M-VS, 6850, etc., so not really going premium anywhere else.

Instead of the Sapphire on newegg I would get the Powercolor 6850 on NCIX because you need a $50 order (just the case is under $50) to get the free shipping:
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=56240&promoid=1211
alQahira
Profile Joined June 2011
United States511 Posts
March 22 2012 16:08 GMT
#19810
Timing question:

So my birthday is in a couple days and I've asked for case, power supply, ram, etc. I was planning on just waiting for ivy bridge to get motherboard/cpu/gpu myself. My question is, are we likely to see any new mid-range (around $200-250) cards in the next month? Or is a 7850 probably my best bet in that range? And if so, is it not worth waiting for ivy bridge and the new chipsets and just jumping on a z68/2500k? It certainly seems plausible that the price of a 7850 could drop a bit as time goes on, right? In which case it seems like it would make sense to wait for the minor performance bump of ivy bridge as well.

Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 22 2012 16:14 GMT
#19811
Well I don't know, I kind of wouldn't mind paying 30 extra for the better efficiency and also for an ability to use it in the next one or two builds and for better warranty and so on, though I guess that rosewill might be okay but meh
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
March 22 2012 16:20 GMT
#19812
On March 23 2012 00:45 Shikyo wrote:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182068

I'd go with this PSU(Cant find capstone 450?)

And for graphics card I'd go with this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908

and this for ram:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576006


And no it's not cheaper to buy them in combo wtf, it wasn't even when the combo was at its cheapest.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.851650
This combo's an alternative like he mentioned, no real difference. Actually the other one's 2 dollars more so you can get it too if you like, doesn't really matter at all though


you guys are right lol thankss a lot.. I'll get the last combo since the price is exactly the same as if I got them separate. however, I think that psu is too expensive.

you think this would work?

Antec EarthWatts Green EA-430D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371034
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 22 2012 16:31 GMT
#19813
It's only 9$ more but if that indeed is too costly get the one myrmidon recommended
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 22 2012 17:02 GMT
#19814
Earthwatts Green at that price is not really a good option. I don't think there are reasonable choices at current pricing between the two ones listed (Rosewill Green Series 430W and Rosewill Capstone 550W), unless maybe you also want to consider the Green Series 530W if you get a significantly more powerful graphics card later on and don't want to run power cable adapters.

On March 23 2012 01:14 Shikyo wrote:
Well I don't know, I kind of wouldn't mind paying 30 extra for the better efficiency and also for an ability to use it in the next one or two builds and for better warranty and so on, though I guess that rosewill might be okay but meh

Same, but again, I wouldn't be wanting to get H61M-VS etc. either.

On March 23 2012 01:08 alQahira wrote:
Timing question:

So my birthday is in a couple days and I've asked for case, power supply, ram, etc. I was planning on just waiting for ivy bridge to get motherboard/cpu/gpu myself. My question is, are we likely to see any new mid-range (around $200-250) cards in the next month? Or is a 7850 probably my best bet in that range? And if so, is it not worth waiting for ivy bridge and the new chipsets and just jumping on a z68/2500k? It certainly seems plausible that the price of a 7850 could drop a bit as time goes on, right? In which case it seems like it would make sense to wait for the minor performance bump of ivy bridge as well.

It's possible we could see something from Nvidia in that price range, but I wouldn't count on it. I guarantee 7850 pricing will be lower in the future, just maybe not in a month. If your current computer doesn't do what you want it to do, I wouldn't recommend waiting any longer for a upgrade though.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 22 2012 17:08 GMT
#19815
Why would you purchase an Earthwatts 430D when you're getting a 6850, just get the 380D for $45 or Capstone for $64.
xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 18:20:36
March 22 2012 18:16 GMT
#19816
after taking advice from everyone, this is the final build.. anything out of place?

Intel Core i3 2120 & DVD Burner @ $135
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.846601

SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6850 & G.SKILL Ripjaw 2x4GB @ $170
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.851650

Asrock H61M-VS @ $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241

Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D @ $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371033

Bitfenix Merc Alpha @ $37
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63256&promoid=1215

thanks a lot boys :D
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 22 2012 18:22 GMT
#19817
GTX 460 is still better, $120: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127646 + $35 memory = $155
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
March 22 2012 20:25 GMT
#19818
get the 460 but dont forget to overclock it. that card loooves oc
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xeo1
Profile Joined October 2011
United States429 Posts
March 22 2012 22:21 GMT
#19819
On March 23 2012 05:25 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
get the 460 but dont forget to overclock it. that card loooves oc


is it hard to overclock? i never did it
Nabutso
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 22:34:12
March 22 2012 22:34 GMT
#19820
Literally just move a slider until you get to a point that it crashes (or gets too hot)
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