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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
HansK
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
249 Posts
February 05 2012 02:35 GMT
#18421
On February 05 2012 10:28 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 10:13 HansK wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On February 05 2012 07:12 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 07:10 HansK wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I'm looking to make a computer that can stream/record Diablo III game-play in HD[specs needed are very comparable to sc2]. I don't think my current set up can so I'm looking for some help finding one that can for $1,000 or less.

1680x1050 res high graphics [not ultra] is what I'll be recording on.

Does anyone have a link to a thread discussing stream/recording computers specifically so I don't have to go through 921 pages, or possibly have a pre-made list of custom computers that can stream/record HD SC2 high quality?


Location? Do you intend to overclock? Do you need an operating system?

Streaming and recording are two different things.


I know they are two different things - hence I state they need to be both. My internet is sufficient for streaming[10 up/down] and I live in the U.S. I may overclock but not by very much if I do. I don't need an OS. Just pure computer parts.


$911 before mail in rebates ($941 with the 1TB instead):

Core i5 2500k @ $230
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Asrock P67 Pro3 @ $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

Crucial 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148476

Gigabyte Radeon HD6850 @ $140, $120 after mail in rebate (w/ promo code HARDOCPX2X1C, ends 2/7)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125353

Crucial M4 128gb @ $177
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442

Rosewill Capstone 450 @ $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $80
+ Show Spoiler [or Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB @ $…] +
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=58881


Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $23
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1012

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $50
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1012

DVD Burner @ $16
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45244&promoid=1012


You feel confident this will be able to stream/record at the resolution stated earlier at 720p? Right now I run 3100 GHZ quad core AMD, HD 5770, 8 GB ram[gskill], and a 7200 RPM HD and I feel like it's a struggle to record anything at all or stream with out being choppy. Could it be the fact I'm not using a dedicated HDD to record to?
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
February 05 2012 02:40 GMT
#18422
On February 05 2012 06:26 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 02:59 AAyeR wrote:
yes semantics i do have a corsair.... and edit that sc2 thing, it actually happend right after i turned it off from using it to just send that message

how loud is it, a hum or like a marble rattling in a jar. Next time it happens open the case and check if the sound is coming from the psu, take a recording of it and rma the psu to corsair.

They will probably ask you to go into your mobo bios and turn off any power saving setting like CE1 for intel, ie speed stepping, as that is the likly cause. So you can check with that next time.

The coil whine shouldn't be too much to worry about it's not going to damage anything although it may sound bad. If you can't get it to stop if you turn off such settings rma it with corsair. It's a common enough problem for them

http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=85166
Not sure why corsair units exhibit this problem more, perhaps it just a testament to how much product they move.


it is like a hum, it starts off low and gets higher with time. the cpu is off so i dont understand why it does that. Like it turns off when I turn off the power switch. just don't wanna have to turn off the power switch everytime i turn off my cpu.
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
February 05 2012 02:42 GMT
#18423
well the PSU has been giving me the most shit so far, it's fking terrible, i don't know why medrea reccomended this, such a piece of crap

User was warned for this post
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 02:55:26
February 05 2012 02:52 GMT
#18424
On February 05 2012 11:32 BruteOLeary wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hey guys I have an extremely noob question regarding my PSU 6 pin adapters. I plan on getting a 6870 and SSD monday, but the 6870s ive looked at require 2 6 pin adapters, and while my psu has 2, one is a 6pin and another is a 6(+2). Can I use both to power the 6870, or will I have to get a new PSU to run it?

The build as it stands is

CPU- i5 2500k
Mobo- MSI P67A-G43
GPU- XFX 5770
Ram- Team Elite 8 Gb (4gb x 2)
Case- CM Haf 912
Hard Drive- Seagate 640Gb
PSU- TR2 600W
CPU cooler- Hyper 212+

The SSD im looking at is-Crucial M4 64GB- $105

And the 6870 I am most likely to get is-XFX Double D 6870- $190


Yes, the 6+2 PCIe connector can be used as a 6pin connector.


On February 05 2012 11:35 HansK wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On February 05 2012 10:28 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 10:13 HansK wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On February 05 2012 07:12 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 07:10 HansK wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I'm looking to make a computer that can stream/record Diablo III game-play in HD[specs needed are very comparable to sc2]. I don't think my current set up can so I'm looking for some help finding one that can for $1,000 or less.

1680x1050 res high graphics [not ultra] is what I'll be recording on.

Does anyone have a link to a thread discussing stream/recording computers specifically so I don't have to go through 921 pages, or possibly have a pre-made list of custom computers that can stream/record HD SC2 high quality?


Location? Do you intend to overclock? Do you need an operating system?

Streaming and recording are two different things.


I know they are two different things - hence I state they need to be both. My internet is sufficient for streaming[10 up/down] and I live in the U.S. I may overclock but not by very much if I do. I don't need an OS. Just pure computer parts.


$911 before mail in rebates ($941 with the 1TB instead):

Core i5 2500k @ $230
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Asrock P67 Pro3 @ $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

Crucial 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148476

Gigabyte Radeon HD6850 @ $140, $120 after mail in rebate (w/ promo code HARDOCPX2X1C, ends 2/7)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125353

Crucial M4 128gb @ $177
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442

Rosewill Capstone 450 @ $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $80
+ Show Spoiler [or Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB @ $…] +
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=58881


Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $23
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1012

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $50
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1012

DVD Burner @ $16
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45244&promoid=1012


You feel confident this will be able to stream/record at the resolution stated earlier at 720p? Right now I run 3100 GHZ quad core AMD, HD 5770, 8 GB ram[gskill], and a 7200 RPM HD and I feel like it's a struggle to record anything at all or stream with out being choppy. Could it be the fact I'm not using a dedicated HDD to record to?


Yep, you're struggling to record because you're not using a dedicated HDD for it.

A core i5 2500k is miles better than your older AMD processor. Phenoms were shit. Phenom IIs were okay but they should be able to produce a decent 720p stream.
HansK
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
249 Posts
February 05 2012 02:56 GMT
#18425
On February 05 2012 11:52 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 11:35 HansK wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On February 05 2012 10:28 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 10:13 HansK wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On February 05 2012 07:12 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 07:10 HansK wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I'm looking to make a computer that can stream/record Diablo III game-play in HD[specs needed are very comparable to sc2]. I don't think my current set up can so I'm looking for some help finding one that can for $1,000 or less.

1680x1050 res high graphics [not ultra] is what I'll be recording on.

Does anyone have a link to a thread discussing stream/recording computers specifically so I don't have to go through 921 pages, or possibly have a pre-made list of custom computers that can stream/record HD SC2 high quality?


Location? Do you intend to overclock? Do you need an operating system?

Streaming and recording are two different things.


I know they are two different things - hence I state they need to be both. My internet is sufficient for streaming[10 up/down] and I live in the U.S. I may overclock but not by very much if I do. I don't need an OS. Just pure computer parts.


$911 before mail in rebates ($941 with the 1TB instead):

Core i5 2500k @ $230
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Asrock P67 Pro3 @ $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

Crucial 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148476

Gigabyte Radeon HD6850 @ $140, $120 after mail in rebate (w/ promo code HARDOCPX2X1C, ends 2/7)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125353

Crucial M4 128gb @ $177
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442

Rosewill Capstone 450 @ $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $80
+ Show Spoiler [or Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB @ $…] +
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=58881


Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $23
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1012

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $50
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1012

DVD Burner @ $16
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45244&promoid=1012


You feel confident this will be able to stream/record at the resolution stated earlier at 720p? Right now I run 3100 GHZ quad core AMD, HD 5770, 8 GB ram[gskill], and a 7200 RPM HD and I feel like it's a struggle to record anything at all or stream with out being choppy. Could it be the fact I'm not using a dedicated HDD to record to?


Yep, you're struggling to record because you're not using a dedicated HDD for it.

A core i5 2500k is miles better than your older AMD processor. Phenoms were shit. Phenom IIs were okay but they should be able to produce a decent 720p stream.


You think with my set up with a dedicated HDD for recording I could record just fine? [note this is my processor] http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103885
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 05 2012 03:40 GMT
#18426
Yes. using a dedicated HDD is the most important thing for recording.
Twistacles
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1327 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 07:08:56
February 05 2012 07:08 GMT
#18427
On February 05 2012 11:52 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 11:32 BruteOLeary wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hey guys I have an extremely noob question regarding my PSU 6 pin adapters. I plan on getting a 6870 and SSD monday, but the 6870s ive looked at require 2 6 pin adapters, and while my psu has 2, one is a 6pin and another is a 6(+2). Can I use both to power the 6870, or will I have to get a new PSU to run it?

The build as it stands is

CPU- i5 2500k
Mobo- MSI P67A-G43
GPU- XFX 5770
Ram- Team Elite 8 Gb (4gb x 2)
Case- CM Haf 912
Hard Drive- Seagate 640Gb
PSU- TR2 600W
CPU cooler- Hyper 212+

The SSD im looking at is-Crucial M4 64GB- $105

And the 6870 I am most likely to get is-XFX Double D 6870- $190


Yes, the 6+2 PCIe connector can be used as a 6pin connector.




Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 11:35 HansK wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On February 05 2012 10:28 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 10:13 HansK wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On February 05 2012 07:12 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 07:10 HansK wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I'm looking to make a computer that can stream/record Diablo III game-play in HD[specs needed are very comparable to sc2]. I don't think my current set up can so I'm looking for some help finding one that can for $1,000 or less.

1680x1050 res high graphics [not ultra] is what I'll be recording on.

Does anyone have a link to a thread discussing stream/recording computers specifically so I don't have to go through 921 pages, or possibly have a pre-made list of custom computers that can stream/record HD SC2 high quality?


Location? Do you intend to overclock? Do you need an operating system?

Streaming and recording are two different things.


I know they are two different things - hence I state they need to be both. My internet is sufficient for streaming[10 up/down] and I live in the U.S. I may overclock but not by very much if I do. I don't need an OS. Just pure computer parts.


$911 before mail in rebates ($941 with the 1TB instead):

Core i5 2500k @ $230
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Asrock P67 Pro3 @ $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

Crucial 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148476

Gigabyte Radeon HD6850 @ $140, $120 after mail in rebate (w/ promo code HARDOCPX2X1C, ends 2/7)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125353

Crucial M4 128gb @ $177
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442

Rosewill Capstone 450 @ $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $80
+ Show Spoiler [or Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB @ $…] +
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=58881


Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $23
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1012

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $50
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1012

DVD Burner @ $16
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45244&promoid=1012


You feel confident this will be able to stream/record at the resolution stated earlier at 720p? Right now I run 3100 GHZ quad core AMD, HD 5770, 8 GB ram[gskill], and a 7200 RPM HD and I feel like it's a struggle to record anything at all or stream with out being choppy. Could it be the fact I'm not using a dedicated HDD to record to?


Yep, you're struggling to record because you're not using a dedicated HDD for it.

A core i5 2500k is miles better than your older AMD processor. Phenoms were shit. Phenom IIs were okay but they should be able to produce a decent 720p stream.



especially for the OC. Nothing quite like having an i5 at ~4.8 on air
"If you don't give a shit which gum you buy, get stride" - Tyler
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 08:00:22
February 05 2012 07:50 GMT
#18428
On February 05 2012 11:42 AAyeR wrote:
well the PSU has been giving me the most shit so far, it's fking terrible, i don't know why medrea reccomended this, such a piece of crap


You are starting to make my head hurt. Go buy another PSU or RMA this one. Medrea can't magically stop units from being defective.

From the sounds of it, it is making this noise while turned off?


On February 05 2012 11:40 AAyeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 06:26 semantics wrote:
On February 05 2012 02:59 AAyeR wrote:
yes semantics i do have a corsair.... and edit that sc2 thing, it actually happend right after i turned it off from using it to just send that message

how loud is it, a hum or like a marble rattling in a jar. Next time it happens open the case and check if the sound is coming from the psu, take a recording of it and rma the psu to corsair.

They will probably ask you to go into your mobo bios and turn off any power saving setting like CE1 for intel, ie speed stepping, as that is the likly cause. So you can check with that next time.

The coil whine shouldn't be too much to worry about it's not going to damage anything although it may sound bad. If you can't get it to stop if you turn off such settings rma it with corsair. It's a common enough problem for them

http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=85166
Not sure why corsair units exhibit this problem more, perhaps it just a testament to how much product they move.


it is like a hum, it starts off low and gets higher with time. the cpu is off so i dont understand why it does that. Like it turns off when I turn off the power switch. just don't wanna have to turn off the power switch everytime i turn off my cpu.


Im having a really hard time following this. Coil whine shouldnt generally be audible when the computer is idle, let alone off. This sounds like a defective product to me unless "the cpu is off" means something I am not familiar with.
twitch.tv/medrea
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
February 05 2012 08:36 GMT
#18429
If there's coil whine with the computer off, it's probably the +5VSB circuit...

Anyhow this is a known issue with Corsair CX series and probably other CWT DSA. Sometimes you get unlucky and get something that exhibits a problem; it clearly doesn't happen audibly with every sample, and Corsair CX V2 is a lot better than many alternatives in terms of actually running a computer and not blowing up. If you have a problematic unit that bothers you, you RMA through newegg (or Corsair). I don't think complaining any more to us will help solve it.
jnkw
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada347 Posts
February 05 2012 09:48 GMT
#18430
So this is the build I posted earlier, but now that I think about it I'm having second thoughts about the GPU. Is the GPU a bit lacking compared to the CPU? I can probably shell out a couple hundred more if it means being more future-proof (would upgrading to an HD7950 or similar make enough of a difference to be advisable, given this setup?)


+ Show Spoiler +

Case
Lancool PC-K60WB Black ATX Advanced Mid Tower Case 5X5.25 4X3.5INT No PS USB Audio Window
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=52427&vpn=PC-K60WB&manufacture=LIAN-LI

Mobo
MSI Z68A-G45 (G3) Z68 ATX LGA1155 DDR3 2PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 HDMI DVI VGA SLI USB3 SATA3 Motherboard
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64932&vpn=Z68A-G45 (G3)&manufacture=MSI/MicroStar

CPU
Intel Core i7 2600K Quad Core Unlocked Hyperthreading Processor LGA1155 3.4GHZ Sandy Bridge 8MB
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57960&vpn=BX80623I72600K&manufacture=Intel

GPU
Galaxy GeForce GTX 560 Ti Gc 835MHZ 1GB 4GHZ DDR5 2xDVI 1x Mini-HDMI PCI-E Video Card
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=67651&vpn=56NGH6HS4IXZ&manufacture=Galaxy Technology&promoid=1012

RAM
Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 8GB 2X4GB PC3-10666 DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&vpn=996770&manufacture=Mushkin Enhanced&promoid=1012

SSD
Crucial M4 SSD Micron C400 128GB 2.5IN Solid State Disk Flash Drive SATA3 6Gbps [$184.99]
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60445&vpn=CT128M4SSD2&manufacture=CRUCIAL TECHNOLOGY&promoid=1012

PSU
Antec High Current Gamer 620W 48A 24PIN ATX12V V2.3 Active PFC 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply 135mm Fan http://ncix.com/products/?sku=56788

CPU Fan
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 AM3 LGA1366 LGA1155 LGA1156 120MM [$30.66]
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&vpn=RR-B10-212P-G1&manufacture=COOLERMASTER

Optical Drive
Samsung SH-222AL 22X DVD Writer SATA Lightscribe OEM [$24.72]
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64204&vpn=SH-222AL/BEBE&manufacture=Samsung

skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 05 2012 09:57 GMT
#18431
The Galaxy GTX 560 Ti is sold out at $195 fyi.

If you're going to spend $500 for a GPU, just get a 7970. 7950 is in a really bad position.

And unless you plan on doing Eyefinity, a Crossfire 7950 / 7970 configuration is pretty overkill.
jnkw
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada347 Posts
February 05 2012 10:04 GMT
#18432
I placed the order before it sold out. I guess I'll leave it as is then. ~$600 for a GPU *would* be a tad over my budget. I guess I can skip doing SLI (most of the games I plan on playing don't really support it all too well anwyay) and upgrade in a couple of years.

Thanks again for all the advice, you've been extremely helpful.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 16:02:41
February 06 2012 16:02 GMT
#18433
On February 05 2012 18:57 skyR wrote:

If you're going to spend $500 for a GPU, just get a 7970. 7950 is in a really bad position.


Huh? Why do you think so? I think the 7970 is in a terrible position actually, in my opinion, because one can get a 7950 with a nice cooling solution for ~$100-150 less and overclock it past or equal to 7970 performance.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 06 2012 16:41 GMT
#18434
There is no way you can get a 7950 with a good heatsink for $100 less. DirectCu II, Double D, Windforce, etc all retail for close to $500. Reference 7970s retail for $550. The 7950 is so cut down and there is no reference designs available. I highly doubt that a 7950 can overclock past a 7970 (I'm talking about overclocked vs overclocked).
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 16:53:13
February 06 2012 16:50 GMT
#18435
On February 07 2012 01:41 skyR wrote:
There is no way you can get a 7950 with a good heatsink for $100 less. DirectCu II, Double D, Windforce, etc all retail for close to $500. Reference 7970s retail for $550. The 7950 is so cut down and there is no reference designs available. I highly doubt that a 7950 can overclock past a 7970 (I'm talking about overclocked vs overclocked).


???

The Sapphire double fan (you know, the one that just reviewed really well for temps and low noise) and Gigabyte windforce 3x are $490 at Newegg.

The cheapest 7970's are about $590 (should be $550-560 I guess but many e-tailers are sold out) and are reference coolers, which means they're gonna be louder at stock settings than the above when overclocked. The ASUS DCII is $623 at Amazon....

Yeah I wasn't talking about OC'd vs OC'd but how a nice 7950 will overclock to 7970 levels for $100 less and lower noise.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 06 2012 17:30 GMT
#18436
Reference 7970 sell for $550. Obviously they're going to be all sold out. Who the hell doesn't buy the flagship when you're paying this much money for a card?

An overclocked 7950 is not quieter than a reference 7970.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 17:49:28
February 06 2012 17:38 GMT
#18437
On February 07 2012 02:30 skyR wrote:
Reference 7970 sell for $550. Obviously they're going to be all sold out. Who the hell doesn't buy the flagship when you're paying this much money for a card?

An overclocked 7950 is not quieter than a reference 7970.


Again, I'm confused. I just pointed out that the Sapphire card is quieter even overclocked(and I'm sure the Gigabyte windforce is as well based on past reviews of Windforce, and PowerColer PCS is also pretty darn quiet)

http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/graph5476/43936.png

Anyway, just pointing out that with current prices and availability, there's no reason to dismiss the 7950 when it performs slightly better than the 580 and certainly overclocks better for the same price. Jumping to a nice 7970 is going to cost $100+ more, which can make a difference for some people...
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
February 06 2012 17:51 GMT
#18438
7950 is what you recommend to people who were originally looking for a 580 but dont realize that the 7950 is better, cheaper, consumes a bit over half the power, and overclocks better.

But the 7970 is quite a bit better, along the same trendline I would say, in fact. Which is an issue. In reality the 7950 should be priced significantly cheaper than it currently is. And I feel somewhat confident we will see a price decrease soonish.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 06 2012 18:20 GMT
#18439
I really question those results -.-
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 06 2012 18:41 GMT
#18440
in EU 7950 is about 400 and 7970 is about 470 and imo that's an okay difference in between them.

7950 doesn't seem that cut-down at all and as said, it OCs to be as good or better as a stock 7970. It definitely is a very viable choice and that sapphire dual fan at 418 euros seems imba as it's silent and OCs like a beast with the lower power consumption wut
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