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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
February 04 2012 17:59 GMT
#18401
yes semantics i do have a corsair.... and edit that sc2 thing, it actually happend right after i turned it off from using it to just send that message
animositysd
Profile Joined February 2012
United States5 Posts
February 04 2012 19:57 GMT
#18402
I am looking to build, have a system made, or buy a prebuilt system. I've done some research and am somewhat knowledgeable with modern parts now, but I was hoping to get some input. My budget would preferably be under 1300, but I would like to make this a system that will last me awhile so I'd be willing to go up to 2-2.2k.

I want to be able to run sc2 everything ultra/max settings even in 4v4 and not have problems alt tabbing or running say, pandora in the background. Maybe eventually stream, but above is my basic wants.

Any input on this build? Any changes that would be worth it, or if anyone knows if Cyberpower or other options like that would be worth it or am I really better off building it myself?



Motherboard:
Asrock P67 Extreme4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157229
159.99$

Processor:
Intel Core i5-2500k
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
219.99$

CPU Cooler:
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065
26.99$

Graphics Card:
PowerColor AX6950 2GBD5-2DH Radeon HD 6950 2GB x2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131393
254.99$ x2 = 509.98$

Crossfire bridge(if not bundled with the cards):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814999002
10.99$

RAM:
Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220569
49.99$

Hard Drive:
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697
54.99$

Case:
Cooler Master 690 II Advanced
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119216
89.99$

Power Supply:
Rosewill HIVE Series HIVE-750 750W Modular
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182133
89.99$

Optical Drive:
SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-222AB - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233
16.99$

Thanks for any replies!
My redemption lies in your demise.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 04 2012 20:05 GMT
#18403
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230 Would get this mobo instead

For graphics card I'd rather get a single 7950 or 7970 depending on how much you want to spend on it. SC2 doesn't scale so well with Crossfire anyway and it's not too graphically intensive - you'd probably be totally fine even with a single 6870.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

This is still good even at 10$ higher price than it used to be

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220569
This ram is cheaper

I'd consider a SSD such as Crucial m4 128gb which is cheap atm, also you need to change that HDD as it's too costly:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442

You need a CPU cooler such as hyper 212 evo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
animositysd
Profile Joined February 2012
United States5 Posts
February 04 2012 20:15 GMT
#18404
Thanks for the response Shikyo. Excuse the barrage of questions incoming :o

Would a 400-450 power supply be enough?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161399

Is that a good choice on the gpu then?

I'm not too familiar with what would be good RAM wise. 8gb of that RAM would be good enough? Is it worth it getting kingston and more then 8gb?

I vaguely know what a SSD is. Would that be replacing the HD?
My redemption lies in your demise.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 04 2012 20:34 GMT
#18405
A big enough SSD could replace a HDD but individuals often times can't afford a 256gb or 512gb SSD. With a 128gb SSD, most individuals will need to use it alongside a HDD (SSD used for Windows and primary software while HDD is used for storing documents, media, and secondary software).

The Rosewill Capstone 450 is sufficient for such a build.

If you don't do anything but gaming, browsing, and stuff than all you need is 8GB. Memory is easy to add so it doesn't really matter... if you find yourself needing more than you'll just add more when the time comes.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 04 2012 20:35 GMT
#18406
As the Capstone can deliver 550W without a problem and the new 7000 radeon series are very good with power consumption, it would have absolutely no problems dealing with it. It will stay almost completely silent the entire time, as well.

Kingston is something I kind of would avoid as I think they still are 1.65V which is pretty bad. There's really no difference between the brands and Patriot is a fine brand either way. 8GB should be enough unless you multitask a ton with photoshop and perhaps video encoding, in which case you can just buy 2 of those kits.

Yeah that graphics card is fine if you want to spend that much money on it.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
animositysd
Profile Joined February 2012
United States5 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 20:46:54
February 04 2012 20:41 GMT
#18407
After making those changes this is what my final cart looks. Am I missing anything? Feel pretty content with it now.

SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-222AB - OEM
Item #: N82E16827151233
$18.99


COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811119216
-$30.00 Instant
$99.99
$69.99


HIS H797F3G2M Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
Item #: N82E16814161399
$549.99
1

HIS Gift - DIRT3 Game Redemption Coupon
Item #: N82E16800997061
-$49.99 Saving
$49.99
$0.00


Rosewill CAPSTONE Series CAPSTONE-450 450W Continuous @ 50°C, 80 PLUS GOLD Certified, Single +12V Rail, ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V ...
Item #: N82E16817182066
-$10.00 Instant
$79.99
$69.99


Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model PSD38G1600K
Item #: N82E16820220569
$36.99


ASRock P67 PRO3 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813157230
-$30.00 Instant
$119.99
$89.99



Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 ...
Item #: N82E16819115072
$229.99


COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel ...
Item #: N82E16835103065
$29.99


Subtotal: $1,283.90
My redemption lies in your demise.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 20:47:11
February 04 2012 20:44 GMT
#18408
Why are you getting a Crossfire bridge? Asrock P67 Pro3 does not support CrossfireX and a Rosewill Capstone 450w will not be sufficient for an overclocked 2500k and a pair of overclocked 7970s.

If you intend to CrossfireX 7970s than you might as well go balls to the wall with every component.

And btw every 7970 comes with a CrossfireX bridge. If it doesn't than I wouldn't buy from them.
animositysd
Profile Joined February 2012
United States5 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 20:48:36
February 04 2012 20:48 GMT
#18409
Just saw I left that in, I plan on one 7970.

I'm just now researching about SSD. That would essentially be the hard drive if all I'm doing is gaming and streaming etc correct?

Removing the crossfire everything seem kosher?
My redemption lies in your demise.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 04 2012 20:55 GMT
#18410
Yes, everything seems good.
animositysd
Profile Joined February 2012
United States5 Posts
February 04 2012 21:10 GMT
#18411
On February 05 2012 05:55 skyR wrote:
Yes, everything seems good.


Thanks for the input, nice to have feedback without getting flamed .
Ordering this bad boy now.
My redemption lies in your demise.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
February 04 2012 21:26 GMT
#18412
On February 05 2012 02:59 AAyeR wrote:
yes semantics i do have a corsair.... and edit that sc2 thing, it actually happend right after i turned it off from using it to just send that message

how loud is it, a hum or like a marble rattling in a jar. Next time it happens open the case and check if the sound is coming from the psu, take a recording of it and rma the psu to corsair.

They will probably ask you to go into your mobo bios and turn off any power saving setting like CE1 for intel, ie speed stepping, as that is the likly cause. So you can check with that next time.

The coil whine shouldn't be too much to worry about it's not going to damage anything although it may sound bad. If you can't get it to stop if you turn off such settings rma it with corsair. It's a common enough problem for them

http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=85166
Not sure why corsair units exhibit this problem more, perhaps it just a testament to how much product they move.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 22:15:34
February 04 2012 21:35 GMT
#18413
On February 04 2012 21:08 Medrea wrote:
I am not gonna lie. I have never seen an LCD technology monitor look quite like a CRT in terms of motion reproduction. I really miss my CRT, and I wish they made them in widescreen and high resolution.


Its called a Sony FW900. Its wide screen and does 75hz at 1080P. Unless you're expecting 2560x1440 in a 23"-24" monitor...actually it does 2304x1440 @ 80Hz so its actually not too far off.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 21:51:34
February 04 2012 21:50 GMT
#18414
CRT is never gonna be the same. CRT creates an image on a different principle, by shooting a beam moving usually left to right, top to bottom to create the picture, when it creates a new picture it make a black box that moves in the same motion usually about 3rd or 1/2th the height of the screen. It's very similar to how old flim strip works, picture black picture moving from top to bottom. You have to insert blank frames in order to create motion else the eye just takes it all as one and it looks like a large blur, sorta like long exposure pictures.

LCD is a persistent image, so it just creates a black screen then the new picture, which is why lcd's can't flicker like an old tv or crt

This difference is why CRT's in the later years when resolutions go bigger had bigger Hz numbers, they needed more Hz in order to avoid a flicker and a smoother image, else people can tell the black box inserted in order to create animation. Which is not needed to create a smooth image in a LCD. I think by motion you're thinking of the fuzzyness of the picture, assisting with a psydo motion blur. LCD's being crisp actually hurts it's ability to create smooth image.
HansK
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
249 Posts
February 04 2012 22:10 GMT
#18415
I'm looking to make a computer that can stream/record Diablo III game-play in HD[specs needed are very comparable to sc2]. I don't think my current set up can so I'm looking for some help finding one that can for $1,000 or less.

1680x1050 res high graphics [not ultra] is what I'll be recording on.

Does anyone have a link to a thread discussing stream/recording computers specifically so I don't have to go through 921 pages, or possibly have a pre-made list of custom computers that can stream/record HD SC2 high quality?
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
February 04 2012 22:11 GMT
#18416
What's your point?

He's lucky because they did actually make a widescreen CRT that could push fairly high resolutions at high enough frequencies to prevent annoying flickering. Its the Sony FW900 (and all of its rebrands).
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 04 2012 22:12 GMT
#18417
On February 05 2012 07:10 HansK wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I'm looking to make a computer that can stream/record Diablo III game-play in HD[specs needed are very comparable to sc2]. I don't think my current set up can so I'm looking for some help finding one that can for $1,000 or less.

1680x1050 res high graphics [not ultra] is what I'll be recording on.

Does anyone have a link to a thread discussing stream/recording computers specifically so I don't have to go through 921 pages, or possibly have a pre-made list of custom computers that can stream/record HD SC2 high quality?


Location? Do you intend to overclock? Do you need an operating system?

Streaming and recording are two different things.
HansK
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
249 Posts
February 05 2012 01:13 GMT
#18418
On February 05 2012 07:12 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 07:10 HansK wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I'm looking to make a computer that can stream/record Diablo III game-play in HD[specs needed are very comparable to sc2]. I don't think my current set up can so I'm looking for some help finding one that can for $1,000 or less.

1680x1050 res high graphics [not ultra] is what I'll be recording on.

Does anyone have a link to a thread discussing stream/recording computers specifically so I don't have to go through 921 pages, or possibly have a pre-made list of custom computers that can stream/record HD SC2 high quality?


Location? Do you intend to overclock? Do you need an operating system?

Streaming and recording are two different things.


I know they are two different things - hence I state they need to be both. My internet is sufficient for streaming[10 up/down] and I live in the U.S. I may overclock but not by very much if I do. I don't need an OS. Just pure computer parts.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
February 05 2012 01:28 GMT
#18419
On February 05 2012 10:13 HansK wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On February 05 2012 07:12 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 07:10 HansK wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I'm looking to make a computer that can stream/record Diablo III game-play in HD[specs needed are very comparable to sc2]. I don't think my current set up can so I'm looking for some help finding one that can for $1,000 or less.

1680x1050 res high graphics [not ultra] is what I'll be recording on.

Does anyone have a link to a thread discussing stream/recording computers specifically so I don't have to go through 921 pages, or possibly have a pre-made list of custom computers that can stream/record HD SC2 high quality?


Location? Do you intend to overclock? Do you need an operating system?

Streaming and recording are two different things.


I know they are two different things - hence I state they need to be both. My internet is sufficient for streaming[10 up/down] and I live in the U.S. I may overclock but not by very much if I do. I don't need an OS. Just pure computer parts.


$911 before mail in rebates ($941 with the 1TB instead):

Core i5 2500k @ $230
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Asrock P67 Pro3 @ $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

Crucial 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148476

Gigabyte Radeon HD6850 @ $140, $120 after mail in rebate (w/ promo code HARDOCPX2X1C, ends 2/7)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125353

Crucial M4 128gb @ $177
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442

Rosewill Capstone 450 @ $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $80
+ Show Spoiler [or Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB @ $…] +
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=58881


Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $23
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=41337&promoid=1012

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $50
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55583&promoid=1012

DVD Burner @ $16
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45244&promoid=1012
BruteOLeary
Profile Joined June 2011
United States29 Posts
February 05 2012 02:32 GMT
#18420
Hey guys I have an extremely noob question regarding my PSU 6 pin adapters. I plan on getting a 6870 and SSD monday, but the 6870s ive looked at require 2 6 pin adapters, and while my psu has 2, one is a 6pin and another is a 6(+2). Can I use both to power the 6870, or will I have to get a new PSU to run it?

The build as it stands is

CPU- i5 2500k
Mobo- MSI P67A-G43
GPU- XFX 5770
Ram- Team Elite 8 Gb (4gb x 2)
Case- CM Haf 912
Hard Drive- Seagate 640Gb
PSU- TR2 600W
CPU cooler- Hyper 212+

The SSD im looking at is-Crucial M4 64GB- $105

And the 6870 I am most likely to get is-XFX Double D 6870- $190

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