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xeo1
United States429 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On October 27 2011 13:22 xeo1 wrote: hey guys my dad asked me to help him build a pc for a server.. how does it differ from a gaming pc and what would the parts look like? any help is appreciated^^ What kind of server? Serving what? One single system? What operating system? Where will it be deployed? Is it intended for mission critical 24/7 enterprise use, home file server use, or something in between? If the requirements are not steep, then it's just like any other computer. Compared to a gaming computer, it doesn't need a dedicated high-end graphics card, and likewise it doesn't need as much cooling or as large of a power supply, and so on. Everything else would be more or less the same. For something more serious, you may want Intel Xeon and ECC RAM for reliability (if going x86 and not like a Sun UltraSparc or whatnot). If a lot of CPU processing power is needed, use a dual socket motherboard. If a lot of memory needed, use lots of RAM. If super fast storage is needed, use some enterprise SSDs. And so on. | ||
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siro)
Australia848 Posts
On October 27 2011 12:01 skyR wrote: It's going to be an improvement but I'm not sure what settings you're expecting to run at that resolution. You definitely won't be able to play most games on max settings smoothly with either card though. Installing a graphics card is as easy as you said. Remove the old one, put in the new one and plug in the cables, install drivers from the provided CD or download from the website, and you're done. Removing your second monitor won't make a difference since rendering the desktop isn't intensive at all. Ok thanks, I'm a bit of a computer novice. Assuming I did get a card in that price range, can I just run the game on max settings in a non-native resolution? Say 1280x960 for example. Would this not look very good on such a large display? Conversely would it be better to run 2560x1600 with low-medium in-game graphics? I'm not sure how it all works tbh. Is there a particular card that would go supermax on my system or are other components also holding that back? (Built this computer maybe 2 years ago now) Thanks for the help kind sir. | ||
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xeo1
United States429 Posts
On October 27 2011 13:44 Myrmidon wrote: What kind of server? Serving what? One single system? What operating system? Where will it be deployed? Is it intended for mission critical 24/7 enterprise use, home file server use, or something in between? If the requirements are not steep, then it's just like any other computer. Compared to a gaming computer, it doesn't need a dedicated high-end graphics card, and likewise it doesn't need as much cooling or as large of a power supply, and so on. Everything else would be more or less the same. For something more serious, you may want Intel Xeon and ECC RAM for reliability (if going x86 and not like a Sun UltraSparc or whatnot). If a lot of CPU processing power is needed, use a dual socket motherboard. If a lot of memory needed, use lots of RAM. If super fast storage is needed, use some enterprise SSDs. And so on. it would be a server for running a website from home. I could use suggestions for the server itself also :o | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On October 27 2011 13:51 siro) wrote: Ok thanks, I'm a bit of a computer novice. Assuming I did get a card in that price range, can I just run the game on max settings in a non-native resolution? Say 1280x960 for example. Would this not look very good on such a large display? Conversely would it be better to run 2560x1600 with low-medium in-game graphics? I'm not sure how it all works tbh. Is there a particular card that would go supermax on my system or are other components also holding that back? (Built this computer maybe 2 years ago now) Thanks for the help kind sir. In general I'd say to run native resolution and turn down settings, but experimenting is not a bad idea. Most graphics settings are related to the graphics card mostly. The CPU may hold you back in some games, but the old graphics card really is an issue at that kind of resolution. Even a ~240 AUD GTX 560 Ti is just roughly twice as fast as the GTX 260, so performance is not going to be amazing. On October 27 2011 14:13 xeo1 wrote: it would be a server for running a website from home. I could use suggestions for the server itself also :o Is the world going to explode if the server goes down for half a minute? I'm assuming super-duper reliability is not absolutely critical if you're operating it from home. I'm not sure what you mean by suggestions for the server. The server is the hardware you're getting, right (which is more or less any typical computer build, but it doesn't need a graphics card)? Maybe I'll interpret that as a question about the software? Again, what OS? For something like this I'd probably use some Linux distro (Red Hat I guess), but you may have other ideas. There are plenty of configuration guides for beginners. Then again, it's not like I run any servers or set them up. Anyway, how much traffic and the kind of traffic (i.e. is it serving lots of different media content), will dictate the specs needed for the machine. Also figure out if you need to upgrade your Internet service plan. What's your upload speed? (hopefully enough) | ||
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Cronosc2
Germany108 Posts
On October 27 2011 07:52 MisterFred wrote: Should work fine. The only thing I'd think to note is that it only has 2 ram slots, so if for some bizarre reason you were thinking of doing 4x2gb ram in the future, that wouldn't work. so i should take 1 4gb stick ? :D:D | ||
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NRG
United States26 Posts
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Rannasha
Netherlands2398 Posts
On October 27 2011 14:13 xeo1 wrote: it would be a server for running a website from home. I could use suggestions for the server itself also :o Assuming it's for a relatively low-traffic website (less than a few thousand visitors per day), you can pretty much use any machine to do the trick. Grab a cheap second-hand computer, it'll do fine. Personally, I use a netbook as my home server, since it's very small and uses very little power. If you want to use a Windows system for your server, hardware requirements go up a bit. I would just go for a Linux machine. | ||
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CaM27
Belgium392 Posts
PS: http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/227/111027153725.jpg I still got two of those is this the reason why nothing happens to work? | ||
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Rannasha
Netherlands2398 Posts
On October 27 2011 22:35 CaM27 wrote: Can anyone help me install my geforce 560? I just switched it with the other one. After booting my PC, the screen remains black and nothing happens! Is the card properly mounted into the slot? Are all the relevant power cables connected? Is the fan on the graphics card spinning up? How about other hardware (CPU-fan, harddisks, etc...)? edit: responding to your edit. Those cables are to connect your card to the powersupply. Plug the white end in one of the existing power cables coming out of the PSU and the black end into the relevant slot on the graphics card. If you have 2, you'll probably need to do this twice  | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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CaM27
Belgium392 Posts
On October 27 2011 22:40 Rannasha wrote: Is the card properly mounted into the slot? Are all the relevant power cables connected? Is the fan on the graphics card spinning up? How about other hardware (CPU-fan, harddisks, etc...)? edit: responding to your edit. Those cables are to connect your card to the powersupply. Plug the white end in one of the existing power cables coming out of the PSU and the black end into the relevant slot on the graphics card. If you have 2, you'll probably need to do this twice The card is properly mounted in the slot. It even made a noise with the clips. I have one cable connected between the monitor and the gfx. I did connect them to my gfx but now i got no idea where to put this white end! Uploading a picture now, maybe it will be easire for helping me, i m a reall disaster! | ||
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CaM27
Belgium392 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Take a close picture of the label on the power supply. It looks like it's the unit that came with the box, which means you probably need to replace it with something that can actually handle the new graphics card. It probably doesn't have the electrical capability to power it safely, and it doesn't look like it has enough connectors either. A modern unit of 380W or more (of an honest brand that can deliver what it claims) should be sufficient. If you need to purchase one, let us know what the options are. | ||
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CaM27
Belgium392 Posts
It's an i7 - 8gb ddr3 Thought everything would be ok with this new card as the seller didn't mention it wouldn't or anything. So yeah i guess i got screwed. Please tell me what i should purchase Here is the picture http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4180/p1020807dx.jpg | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Prices and availability of decent power supplies ranges wildly, so it's hard to give recommendations without knowing what the options are. | ||
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CaM27
Belgium392 Posts
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On October 27 2011 23:17 CaM27 wrote: Do you think i could resent this gfx with warranty? Probably but you'll probably end up paying that obligatory restocking fee. Warranty generally covers hardware that is DOA/damaged and not incompatible configurations or user error (in this case, a really bad PSU). I wouldn't lie to the computer store/manufacturer either since you're simply going to waste time and money. | ||
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Puph
Canada635 Posts
2x2gb is a bit outdated. Get a 1x4gb or 2x4gb. i'd go with 2x4gb, dirt cheap and will last you that much longer. May i suggest Mushkin or G.Skill? Won't cost you more than 60 bucks for enough ram to last you the rest of the decade lol | ||
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Cronosc2
Germany108 Posts
On October 27 2011 23:35 Puph wrote: 2x2gb is a bit outdated. Get a 1x4gb or 2x4gb. i'd go with 2x4gb, dirt cheap and will last you that much longer. May i suggest Mushkin or G.Skill? Won't cost you more than 60 bucks for enough ram to last you the rest of the decade lol so which way to go ? this http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=44319&agid=1192 or http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=44321&agid=1193 | ||
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