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On October 26 2011 14:05 Shikyo wrote:
Yeah that's illegal ...
Might as well pirate it and save 65$
Fact is you can install it on a fresh drive without a previous copy or license which was what was being discussed in the first place. The majority of people who are on the internet qualify for the upgrade since they have a Windows license. It would only be illegal if you are using Mac and don't have XP or Vista. But you can argue ethics all you want, I don't think anyone including Microsoft really cares.
edit: ya I know there's a loophole in my statement.
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On October 26 2011 13:01 Hierarch wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2011 12:59 jacosajh wrote:
getting 125 fps is going to be hard esp in sc2 and worse when streaming since both are very CPU intensive. Even without streaming you won't get 125 fps consistently. That being said your budget allows for a decent build capable of all you want. I don't want to stream my gameplay, I meant like watching streams in HD lol. Now I see the confusion.
lol. so much different. Regardless, I find your comment about the mobility i3 very hard to believe at the midgame stage. And even regardless of any misunderstanding, as I said prior, you won't get 125 FPS constantly even with a badass desktop system if you're going to the midgame (what like 12-15 minutes?).
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What do you mean no power cord? Also I'm just trying to save money where I can lol, am I missing any parts?
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I mean it doesn't come with the cord that plugs into the wall socket on one side and the power supply on the other. Most people have spares from old computers or other appliances.
You're not missing anything but maybe an optical drive
lowest-cost DVD burner is usually a bit under $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233
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On October 26 2011 15:24 Myrmidon wrote:I mean it doesn't come with the cord that plugs into the wall socket on one side and the power supply on the other. Most people have spares from old computers or other appliances. You're not missing anything but maybe an optical drive lowest-cost DVD burner is usually a bit under $20 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233
If I don't have an extra one of the cords where would I get one? I'm pretty sure I don't have an extra one tbh.
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I wouldn't be purchasing a 320gb for $70... do you know how insane you are? I would suggest getting a Crucial M4 64gb and wait until the new year when HDD supply stabilizes before purchasing a new HDD. If you don't want a SSD and want a HDD instead than I suggest you switch to a Seagate Barracuda or Hitachi Deskstar.
Some components are less expensive on us.ncix.com . XFX Core Edition 450 is $50 ($30 after mail in rebate) which is a better purchase than the CX500 V2 and Neo Eco: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63238&promoid=1208 Sale ends in less than 24 hours but it's likely to appear in next week's sale anyways.
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On October 26 2011 15:30 skyR wrote:I wouldn't be purchasing a 320gb for $70... do you know how insane you are? I would suggest getting a Crucial M4 64gb and wait until the new year when HDD supply stabilizes before purchasing a new HDD. If you don't want a SSD and want a HDD instead than I suggest you switch to a Seagate Barracuda or Hitachi Deskstar. Some components are less expensive on us.ncix.com . XFX Core Edition 450 is $50 ($30 after mail in rebate) which is a better purchase than the CX500 V2 and Neo Eco: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63238&promoid=1208 Sale ends in less than 24 hours but it's likely to appear in next week's sale anyways.
Oh, ok thanks for the catch, I'll prolly just spend the extra 40 for the SSD then
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207018
Is this the same PSU as the one you mentioned?
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No, that's the V2 variant which is shittier.
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On October 26 2011 13:32 Hierarch wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2011 13:26 jacosajh wrote:On October 26 2011 13:19 Hierarch wrote:Is that for the upgrade only from vista? I thought the full version of w7 was like 200? Also what mobo would I use for just a 2400? Not really looking to overclock. You can use a cheap H61/H67 motherboard like the ASRock H61M-VS for $54. Do you know why you want to get a quad-core? Will you even use it? It's not a bad idea if you think you might play other games that will use quad-core, and know what those games are. But you're potentially paying ~50% more for something you won't use. Also, I wouldn't go any higher than a GTX 560 Ti, even though your budget can allow it. I don't think Diablo 3 will be that much higher than SC2 based on information available (subject to change of course). You won't need a GTX 560 Ti for SC2 or TF2 at all, as it's more than you'll need. Just wanted to make this clear in case someone suggests you get a better video card just because your budget allows it. I also edited my original post so you can see what you might be spending in comparison, for a dual-core G860 instead. Also, the case I included is kind of "expensive" based on how you look at it. You can definitely get away with one half that cost. Just kind of took a shot, that since you can afford it, you might want something "nice" (preference of course). Why would I want to get a quad core? and what games would use a quad etc? I heard a 6850 would suffice sc2?
yes an hd 6850 would suffice for sc2. However afaik Diablo 3 will require more graphics power based on blizzard staff interview. Since you don't know exactly what that is getting an hd 6850 now and upgrading when it comes out is not a bad idea. I can't recall anything about CPU power so maybe you're better off just getting a dual core unless you know what games you're looking to play besides sc2 tf2 and d3. Like I said only some games now use quad like bf3 and crysis2. Maybe this will become the fps standard maybe not. Can't really say, but getting a quad core now isn't a bad I'dea either around you can afford with no major hurt. Its up to you to decide. Sorry can't give more info as that's all we really have based on what you're telling us.
if it were me I'd get the i5 2500 myrmidon linked and an hd 6850.
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On October 26 2011 15:38 skyR wrote:
No, that's the V2 variant which is shittier.
Any other PSU you can recommend that's on newegg? paying an extra 10-20$ isn't a problem, I'd like to get everything from one place if possible
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On October 26 2011 15:46 jacosajh wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2011 13:32 Hierarch wrote:On October 26 2011 13:26 jacosajh wrote:On October 26 2011 13:19 Hierarch wrote:Is that for the upgrade only from vista? I thought the full version of w7 was like 200? Also what mobo would I use for just a 2400? Not really looking to overclock. You can use a cheap H61/H67 motherboard like the ASRock H61M-VS for $54. Do you know why you want to get a quad-core? Will you even use it? It's not a bad idea if you think you might play other games that will use quad-core, and know what those games are. But you're potentially paying ~50% more for something you won't use. Also, I wouldn't go any higher than a GTX 560 Ti, even though your budget can allow it. I don't think Diablo 3 will be that much higher than SC2 based on information available (subject to change of course). You won't need a GTX 560 Ti for SC2 or TF2 at all, as it's more than you'll need. Just wanted to make this clear in case someone suggests you get a better video card just because your budget allows it. I also edited my original post so you can see what you might be spending in comparison, for a dual-core G860 instead. Also, the case I included is kind of "expensive" based on how you look at it. You can definitely get away with one half that cost. Just kind of took a shot, that since you can afford it, you might want something "nice" (preference of course). Why would I want to get a quad core? and what games would use a quad etc? I heard a 6850 would suffice sc2? yes an hd 6850 would suffice for sc2. However afaik Diablo 3 will require more graphics power based on blizzard staff interview. Since you don't know exactly what that is getting an hd 6850 now and upgrading when it comes out is not a bad idea. I can't recall anything about CPU power so maybe you're better off just getting a dual core unless you know what games you're looking to play besides sc2 tf2 and d3. Like I said only some games now use quad like bf3 and crysis2. Maybe this will become the fps standard maybe not. Can't really say, but getting a quad core now isn't a bad I'dea either around you can afford with no major hurt. Its up to you to decide. Sorry can't give more info as that's all we really have based on what you're telling us. if it were me I'd get the i5 2500 myrmidon linked and an hd 6850.
Which 6850? There's like 10 of them lol, what's the difference between them?
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The diablo 3 beta system requirements was release quite a while ago.
http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=40446
MINIMUM SYSTEM SPECIFICATIONS
PC
OS: Windows® XP/Windows Vista®/Windows® 7 (Latest Service Packs) with DirectX® 9.0c
Processor: Intel Pentium® D 2.8 GHz or AMD AthlonTM 64 X2 4400+
Video: NVIDIA® GeForce® 7800 GT or ATI Radeon™ X1950 Pro or better
Mac
OS: Mac® OS X 10.6.8 or newer | Processor: Intel® Core 2 Duo
Video: NVIDIA® GeForce® 8600M GT or ATI Radeon™ HD 2600 or better
All Platforms
HD Space: 12 GB available HD space | Memory: 1 GB RAM (1.5 GB required for Windows Vista®/
Windows® 7 users, 2 GB for Mac® users) | Drive: DVD-ROM drive | Internet: Broadband Internet
connection | Display: 1024x768 minimum display resolution
(Note: Be advised that some wireless connections do not meet the minimums required to be a true Broadband Internet connection. Wireless results may vary.)
RECOMMENDED SYSTEM SPECIFICATIONS
PC
OS: Windows Vista®/Windows® 7 (Latest Service Packs) | Processor: Intel® Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz
or AMD AthlonTM 64 X2 5600+ 2.8 GHz | Memory: 2 GB RAM | Video: NVIDIA® GeForce® 260 or
ATI Radeon™ HD 4870 or better
Mac
OS: Mac® OS X 10.7 or newer | Processor: Intel® Core 2 Duo | Memory: 2 GB RAM
Video: NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 330M or ATI Radeon™ HD 4670 or better
Even if this change to release a 6850 will play d3 more than fine.
On October 26 2011 16:11 Hierarch wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2011 15:46 jacosajh wrote:On October 26 2011 13:32 Hierarch wrote:On October 26 2011 13:26 jacosajh wrote:On October 26 2011 13:19 Hierarch wrote:Is that for the upgrade only from vista? I thought the full version of w7 was like 200? Also what mobo would I use for just a 2400? Not really looking to overclock. You can use a cheap H61/H67 motherboard like the ASRock H61M-VS for $54. Do you know why you want to get a quad-core? Will you even use it? It's not a bad idea if you think you might play other games that will use quad-core, and know what those games are. But you're potentially paying ~50% more for something you won't use. Also, I wouldn't go any higher than a GTX 560 Ti, even though your budget can allow it. I don't think Diablo 3 will be that much higher than SC2 based on information available (subject to change of course). You won't need a GTX 560 Ti for SC2 or TF2 at all, as it's more than you'll need. Just wanted to make this clear in case someone suggests you get a better video card just because your budget allows it. I also edited my original post so you can see what you might be spending in comparison, for a dual-core G860 instead. Also, the case I included is kind of "expensive" based on how you look at it. You can definitely get away with one half that cost. Just kind of took a shot, that since you can afford it, you might want something "nice" (preference of course). Why would I want to get a quad core? and what games would use a quad etc? I heard a 6850 would suffice sc2? yes an hd 6850 would suffice for sc2. However afaik Diablo 3 will require more graphics power based on blizzard staff interview. Since you don't know exactly what that is getting an hd 6850 now and upgrading when it comes out is not a bad idea. I can't recall anything about CPU power so maybe you're better off just getting a dual core unless you know what games you're looking to play besides sc2 tf2 and d3. Like I said only some games now use quad like bf3 and crysis2. Maybe this will become the fps standard maybe not. Can't really say, but getting a quad core now isn't a bad I'dea either around you can afford with no major hurt. Its up to you to decide. Sorry can't give more info as that's all we really have based on what you're telling us. if it were me I'd get the i5 2500 myrmidon linked and an hd 6850. Which 6850? There's like 10 of them lol, what's the difference between them?
Getting the cheapest is usually the best choice. Warrantees might be good to consider though as that changes by the brands.
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On October 26 2011 16:11 Hierarch wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2011 15:46 jacosajh wrote:On October 26 2011 13:32 Hierarch wrote:On October 26 2011 13:26 jacosajh wrote:On October 26 2011 13:19 Hierarch wrote:Is that for the upgrade only from vista? I thought the full version of w7 was like 200? Also what mobo would I use for just a 2400? Not really looking to overclock. You can use a cheap H61/H67 motherboard like the ASRock H61M-VS for $54. Do you know why you want to get a quad-core? Will you even use it? It's not a bad idea if you think you might play other games that will use quad-core, and know what those games are. But you're potentially paying ~50% more for something you won't use. Also, I wouldn't go any higher than a GTX 560 Ti, even though your budget can allow it. I don't think Diablo 3 will be that much higher than SC2 based on information available (subject to change of course). You won't need a GTX 560 Ti for SC2 or TF2 at all, as it's more than you'll need. Just wanted to make this clear in case someone suggests you get a better video card just because your budget allows it. I also edited my original post so you can see what you might be spending in comparison, for a dual-core G860 instead. Also, the case I included is kind of "expensive" based on how you look at it. You can definitely get away with one half that cost. Just kind of took a shot, that since you can afford it, you might want something "nice" (preference of course). Why would I want to get a quad core? and what games would use a quad etc? I heard a 6850 would suffice sc2? yes an hd 6850 would suffice for sc2. However afaik Diablo 3 will require more graphics power based on blizzard staff interview. Since you don't know exactly what that is getting an hd 6850 now and upgrading when it comes out is not a bad idea. I can't recall anything about CPU power so maybe you're better off just getting a dual core unless you know what games you're looking to play besides sc2 tf2 and d3. Like I said only some games now use quad like bf3 and crysis2. Maybe this will become the fps standard maybe not. Can't really say, but getting a quad core now isn't a bad I'dea either around you can afford with no major hurt. Its up to you to decide. Sorry can't give more info as that's all we really have based on what you're telling us. if it were me I'd get the i5 2500 myrmidon linked and an hd 6850. Which 6850? There's like 10 of them lol, what's the difference between them?
Usually things not that important. Number of fans, cooling, some might be factory overclocked, warranty support, etc. Performance is generally identical.
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Can anyone recommend me a PSU from newegg? Also how would I add wifi to this desktop?
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From newegg, no great PSU deals now.
Antec Neo Eco 520C - $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030
Power cord (if you really don't have one) - $5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812270406
Only a few motherboards come with an integrated Wi-Fi adapter, so you'll need to get one. There are PCI, PCI Express, and USB varieties.
Unless you have an 802.11n router and need to transfer a lot of files between different devices on your home network and need that to be a little faster (the link between the adapter and router would then be the bottleneck; for most people, the link between your setup and your ISP is the bottleneck when communicating over the Internet), then a single antenna model is okay.
I'd get this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704045
In general you don't want antennas stuck to the back of the case, where reception usually sucks. Use the USB extension and maybe prop the thing up or tape it somewhere higher off of the ground if necessary.
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On October 27 2011 02:57 Myrmidon wrote:From newegg, no great PSU deals now. Antec Neo Eco 520C - $55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030Power cord (if you really don't have one) - $5 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812270406Only a few motherboards come with an integrated Wi-Fi adapter, so you'll need to get one. There are PCI, PCI Express, and USB varieties. Unless you have an 802.11n router and need to transfer a lot of files between different devices on your home network and need that to be a little faster (the link between the adapter and router would then be the bottleneck; for most people, the link between your setup and your ISP is the bottleneck when communicating over the Internet), then a single antenna model is okay. I'd get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704045In general you don't want antennas stuck to the back of the case, where reception usually sucks. Use the USB extension and maybe prop the thing up or tape it somewhere higher off of the ground if necessary.
So I just plug this into a USB port? It's basically an external wifi adapter?
Also, do all these parts come with the proper wires? or do I need to be the cables?
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Could someone confirm that this is good? I would like a bigger hard drive (~1 Terabyte)what do you recommend?
Thanks!
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On October 27 2011 03:18 Hierarch wrote:Show nested quote +On October 27 2011 02:57 Myrmidon wrote:From newegg, no great PSU deals now. Antec Neo Eco 520C - $55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030Power cord (if you really don't have one) - $5 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812270406Only a few motherboards come with an integrated Wi-Fi adapter, so you'll need to get one. There are PCI, PCI Express, and USB varieties. Unless you have an 802.11n router and need to transfer a lot of files between different devices on your home network and need that to be a little faster (the link between the adapter and router would then be the bottleneck; for most people, the link between your setup and your ISP is the bottleneck when communicating over the Internet), then a single antenna model is okay. I'd get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704045In general you don't want antennas stuck to the back of the case, where reception usually sucks. Use the USB extension and maybe prop the thing up or tape it somewhere higher off of the ground if necessary. So I just plug this into a USB port? It's basically an external wifi adapter? Also, do all these parts come with the proper wires? or do I need to be the cables?
Yes it's external and plugs into USB. Most internal ones have antennas mounted to the expansion card bracket, which is undesirable unless maybe you plan to move the case all the time, and if it's on the desk.
Only cables you need are (1) cables attached to PSU, that plug into motherboard + drives + graphics cards, (2) cable from PSU to wall, (3) cables attached to case, that plug into motherboard, (4) SATA cables for data between drives and motherboard. Drives generally do not come with SATA cables, but most motherboards come with two or more. So yes you have all you need.
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