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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
October 26 2011 04:15 GMT
#13781
On October 26 2011 13:13 Medrea wrote:
My i5 -2500k goes into mid to upper 30's when things go a little bit crazy.

Either way, thats not "70 to 100" all game. Its important to make sure we have realistic numbers out there so people don't come whining in this forum about how there Pentium 4 doesn't get constant 60 FPS.


True, lol my bad. Wasn't very specific when I said that T_T

Just watched a replay defending a 1/1/1 and that's pretty hectic, the lowest it went was 43 during the giant melee of scvs/marines/tanks/banshees and my units. But for most of the game it was hovering around 60-70.
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 04:28:42
October 26 2011 04:17 GMT
#13782
This is a build with an overclockable quad-core. You will not make full use of this with SC2, TF2, and Diablo 3 (most likely). However, if you want to be able to play other games, there is the potential (though small) that those games will be using quad-core. For example, BF3 and Crysis 2 both take advantage of quad-core, although they rely much more on graphics card.

Intel i5 2500k - $215
ASRock P67 Pro3 - $120
XIGMATEK Gaia - $30
GTX 560 Ti - $220
Corsair CX500 V2 - $60
Cooler Master HAF 922 - $90
G.Skill 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1333 RAM - $26
HITACHI Deskstar 7200 RPM 1TB HDD - $70

Total: $830 without factoring an OS, rebates, shipping, and taxes.

Are you able to get Windows with a student discount? If so, you can get it for $65. Otherwise, you're looking at ponying up at least $110 for it at regular pricing.

If you just want to get a dual-core (not anticipating on playing games on quad-core), you can shave off probably a good $125 off the total cost.

You can swap out:
ASRock P67 Pro3 with ASRock H61M-VS - $54
Intel i5 2500k with Intel G860 - $100
And remove the XIGMATEK Gaia

The total costs will be $620 without factoring an OS, rebates, shipping, and taxes.
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
October 26 2011 04:19 GMT
#13783
On October 26 2011 13:17 jacosajh wrote:
Intel i5 2500k - $215
ASRock P67 Pro3 - $120
XIGMATEK Gaia - $30
GTX 560 Ti - $220
Corsair CX500 V2 - $60
Cooler Master HAF 922 - $90
G.Skill 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1333 RAM - $26
HITACHI Deskstar 7200 RPM 1TB HDD

Total: $830 without factoring rebates, shipping, and taxes

Are you able to get Windows with a student discount? If so, you can get it for $65. Otherwise, you're looking at ponying up at least $110 for it at regular pricing.


Is that for the upgrade only from vista? I thought the full version of w7 was like 200? Also what mobo would I use for just a 2400? Not really looking to overclock.
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 26 2011 04:21 GMT
#13784
Windows 7 is only $100 on Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986 Usually around $90 at other places such as NCIX.

The upgrade media can be used to install on a fresh harddrive without a previous copy of Windows and you do not need a previous license either.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 26 2011 04:22 GMT
#13785
On October 26 2011 13:15 Hierarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 13:13 Medrea wrote:
My i5 -2500k goes into mid to upper 30's when things go a little bit crazy.

Either way, thats not "70 to 100" all game. Its important to make sure we have realistic numbers out there so people don't come whining in this forum about how there Pentium 4 doesn't get constant 60 FPS.


True, lol my bad. Wasn't very specific when I said that T_T

Just watched a replay defending a 1/1/1 and that's pretty hectic, the lowest it went was 43 during the giant melee of scvs/marines/tanks/banshees and my units. But for most of the game it was hovering around 60-70.


I don't like how people will mention there framerate when looking at nothing.

Like empty space in the beginning of the game. I get like 300 FPS or something ridiculous. But boy do nerds feel like saying "My Core 2 Duo gets 275 FPS IN SC2 WAO!" and then you look at a command center and it goes down 100 frames.

Thats why I wish we could find some sort of standardization between us on TL. If someone made a custom benchmarking map that was just you staring at, whatever (fixed camera angle), that would be ideal for us troubleshooting peoples underperforming computers.
twitch.tv/medrea
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 04:30:20
October 26 2011 04:26 GMT
#13786
On October 26 2011 13:19 Hierarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 13:17 jacosajh wrote:
Intel i5 2500k - $215
ASRock P67 Pro3 - $120
XIGMATEK Gaia - $30
GTX 560 Ti - $220
Corsair CX500 V2 - $60
Cooler Master HAF 922 - $90
G.Skill 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1333 RAM - $26
HITACHI Deskstar 7200 RPM 1TB HDD

Total: $830 without factoring rebates, shipping, and taxes

Are you able to get Windows with a student discount? If so, you can get it for $65. Otherwise, you're looking at ponying up at least $110 for it at regular pricing.


Is that for the upgrade only from vista? I thought the full version of w7 was like 200? Also what mobo would I use for just a 2400? Not really looking to overclock.


You can use a cheap H61/H67 motherboard like the ASRock H61M-VS for $54.

Do you know why you want to get a quad-core? Will you even use it? It's not a bad idea if you think you might play other games that will use quad-core, and know what those games are. But you're potentially paying ~50% more for something you won't use.

Also, I wouldn't go any higher than a GTX 560 Ti, even though your budget can allow it. I don't think Diablo 3 will be that much higher than SC2 based on information available (subject to change of course). You won't need a GTX 560 Ti for SC2 or TF2 at all, as it's more than you'll need.

Just wanted to make this clear in case someone suggests you get a better video card just because your budget allows it.

I also edited my original post so you can see what you might be spending in comparison, for a dual-core G860 instead.

Also, the case I included is kind of "expensive" based on how you look at it. You can definitely get away with one half that cost. Just kind of took a shot, that since you can afford it, you might want something "nice" (preference of course).
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
October 26 2011 04:31 GMT
#13787
On October 26 2011 13:22 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 13:15 Hierarch wrote:
On October 26 2011 13:13 Medrea wrote:
My i5 -2500k goes into mid to upper 30's when things go a little bit crazy.

Either way, thats not "70 to 100" all game. Its important to make sure we have realistic numbers out there so people don't come whining in this forum about how there Pentium 4 doesn't get constant 60 FPS.


True, lol my bad. Wasn't very specific when I said that T_T

Just watched a replay defending a 1/1/1 and that's pretty hectic, the lowest it went was 43 during the giant melee of scvs/marines/tanks/banshees and my units. But for most of the game it was hovering around 60-70.


I don't like how people will mention there framerate when looking at nothing.

Like empty space in the beginning of the game. I get like 300 FPS or something ridiculous. But boy do nerds feel like saying "My Core 2 Duo gets 275 FPS IN SC2 WAO!" and then you look at a command center and it goes down 100 frames.

Thats why I wish we could find some sort of standardization between us on TL. If someone made a custom benchmarking map that was just you staring at, whatever (fixed camera angle), that would be ideal for us troubleshooting peoples underperforming computers.


That is actually a good idea lol, I was looking at the battle when I said it dipped to 43. Skyr, how does using the upgrade work? How do I go about adding an operating system to a built computer?
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
October 26 2011 04:32 GMT
#13788
On October 26 2011 13:26 jacosajh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 13:19 Hierarch wrote:
On October 26 2011 13:17 jacosajh wrote:
Intel i5 2500k - $215
ASRock P67 Pro3 - $120
XIGMATEK Gaia - $30
GTX 560 Ti - $220
Corsair CX500 V2 - $60
Cooler Master HAF 922 - $90
G.Skill 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1333 RAM - $26
HITACHI Deskstar 7200 RPM 1TB HDD

Total: $830 without factoring rebates, shipping, and taxes

Are you able to get Windows with a student discount? If so, you can get it for $65. Otherwise, you're looking at ponying up at least $110 for it at regular pricing.


Is that for the upgrade only from vista? I thought the full version of w7 was like 200? Also what mobo would I use for just a 2400? Not really looking to overclock.


You can use a cheap H61/H67 motherboard like the ASRock H61M-VS for $54.

Do you know why you want to get a quad-core? Will you even use it? It's not a bad idea if you think you might play other games that will use quad-core, and know what those games are. But you're potentially paying ~50% more for something you won't use.

Also, I wouldn't go any higher than a GTX 560 Ti, even though your budget can allow it. I don't think Diablo 3 will be that much higher than SC2 based on information available (subject to change of course). You won't need a GTX 560 Ti for SC2 or TF2 at all, as it's more than you'll need.

Just wanted to make this clear in case someone suggests you get a better video card just because your budget allows it.

I also edited my original post so you can see what you might be spending in comparison, for a dual-core G860 instead.

Also, the case I included is kind of "expensive" based on how you look at it. You can definitely get away with one half that cost. Just kind of took a shot, that since you can afford it, you might want something "nice" (preference of course).


Why would I want to get a quad core? and what games would use a quad etc? I heard a 6850 would suffice sc2?
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 26 2011 04:33 GMT
#13789
Using the upgrade is just like using any other version of Windows. Insert disc, install.
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
October 26 2011 04:37 GMT
#13790
On October 26 2011 13:33 skyR wrote:
Using the upgrade is just like using any other version of Windows. Insert disc, install.


I understand that, but why would it work with nothing to upgrade from? The link you linked me, (the 100$ one) that's a full version of windows 7 home premium?
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 04:40:10
October 26 2011 04:39 GMT
#13791
I already mentioned that upgrade media can be used for a fresh installation on a blank harddrive without a previous copy of Windows or a previous license. Why mass produce a different version of a disc when you can just market it as a upgrade and fool ignorant consumers?
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
October 26 2011 04:40 GMT
#13792
I think a powerful processor will once again play the chief role in D3.

D3 is all about lots of enemies, and lots of pure data. Numbers, the full monty.
twitch.tv/medrea
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
October 26 2011 04:43 GMT
#13793
On October 26 2011 13:39 skyR wrote:
I already mentioned that upgrade media can be used for a fresh installation on a blank harddrive without a previous copy of Windows or a previous license. Why mass produce a different version of a disc when you can just market it as a upgrade and fool ignorant consumers?


I see lol, thanks for the info, got any build advice?

On October 26 2011 13:40 Medrea wrote:
I think a powerful processor will once again play the chief role in D3.

D3 is all about lots of enemies, and lots of pure data. Numbers, the full monty.


Ya it would seem so from one of the kings of "Dungeon crawling games"
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 04:51:32
October 26 2011 04:50 GMT
#13794
On October 26 2011 13:33 skyR wrote:
Using the upgrade is just like using any other version of Windows. Insert disc, install.

um you need a previous version of windows
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 26 2011 04:51 GMT
#13795
No you don't.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 26 2011 04:55 GMT
#13796
Proof?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
CharlieBrownsc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada598 Posts
October 26 2011 04:55 GMT
#13797
On October 26 2011 13:50 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 13:33 skyR wrote:
Using the upgrade is just like using any other version of Windows. Insert disc, install.

um you need a previous version of windows


wrong
SC2 ID: CharlieBrown.318, #1 bitbybit.Prime fan
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 26 2011 04:58 GMT
#13798
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/31402-clean-install-upgrade-windows-7-version.html
http://news.cnet.com/windows-7-upgrade-dos-and-don-ts
www.google.com

This has been known since the release of Windows 7.... -_- I'm not sure what's been with you the past week since you've been wrong about a lot of things.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 26 2011 05:05 GMT
#13799
Yeah that's illegal ...

Might as well pirate it and save 65$
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
October 26 2011 05:15 GMT
#13800
How would I add wifi capability to the desktop?
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