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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Westerhound
Finland69 Posts
On October 05 2011 04:12 Shikyo wrote: It you're ordering from Germany, why mindfactory instead of hardwareversand as that's a lot cheaper for a few of the components Friend thought hwv didnt have enough options, and mindfactory still seemed cheaper than overclockers and ebuyer and some other sites that I checked so I started using that instead. Im looking at quite a lot of sites but just linking everything to one site at the moment to keep it less messy. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On October 05 2011 02:52 ensign_lee wrote: yeah I don't agree with the Raid0 SSDs. One 128GB SSD should do her just fine, plus she still needs to have regular HDDs since she's going to be storing lots of photos which take lots of space. Yes, single SSD is fast enough, single SSD gives you TRIM support, and multiple SSDs just increase the probability of failure. | ||
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xeo1
United States429 Posts
Intel core i5-2500k $180 http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589 ASRock Z68 PRO3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $105 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157251 Pareema 2x4GB RAM $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576006 Sapphire HD 6870 - $170 ($150 after MIR) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948 CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 - $60 ($50 after MIR) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" - Bare Drive $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 LG CD / DVD-RW - $17 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136238 Cooler Master Hyper 212 $26 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065 Antec One Hundred @ $50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129098 TOTAL $708 before MIR, 678 after MIR Does everything fit together? I'll get a student OS, and will be playing at 1920x1080 resolution. Thanks for the previous contributions^^ | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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xeo1
United States429 Posts
On October 05 2011 05:47 skyR wrote: Everything is good except the CX500 V2 is overpriced. You can get an XFX Core Edition 450 which is of higher quality and provides the same amount of power as it for a less expensive price both before mail in rebate and after: http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63238 Kk changed it, thanks a lot! | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On October 04 2011 23:21 Myrmidon wrote: You'd have to check a lot more than the capacitors (hint: try looking at all the heatsinked semiconductors for starters, not to mention coils), but even then you may not get a good idea. Yeah Im going to look deeper into this to find out exactly what it all means. I don't trust labels. At all. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On October 05 2011 06:50 Medrea wrote: Yeah Im going to look deeper into this to find out exactly what it all means. I don't trust labels. At all. Even with a very careful look, unless you designed and/or tested the thing, you probably won't get that good of an idea. People looked at and dissected the CX430 and thought it sucked, partially because the bridge rectifier on the primary side wasn't heatsinked, and the datasheet says it can only handle X amps if not heatsinked (but more if heatsinked). Also they thought some other parts like +12V rectifiers were underspecified for a unit of that capacity. Turns out that in reality, the CX430 performance was good, and it could actually meet the rated output power, unlike what some predicted. With the V2, Corsair upped some of the components like the +12V rectifiers (which improved efficiency too, so it could meet 80 plus), but did not put a heatsink on the bridge rectifier, for example. Maybe whoever it was that designed the thing knew whether or not it was necessary? And probably knew a lot of other things? Point being, it's hard to say even for an expert, and most random Internet dudes who think they know a lot aren't actually experts anyway. One thing worth mentioning is that most components internally are specified for way higher than the power supply will require them to run at the power supply's rated full load. It's when the values are close that somebody might be nervous, and probably with good reason. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On October 05 2011 07:23 Myrmidon wrote: Even with a very careful look, unless you designed and/or tested the thing, you probably won't get that good of an idea. People looked at and dissected the CX430 and thought it sucked, partially because the bridge rectifier on the primary side wasn't heatsinked, and the datasheet says it can only handle X amps if not heatsinked (but more if heatsinked). Also they thought some other parts like +12V rectifiers were underspecified for a unit of that capacity. Turns out that in reality, the CX430 performance was good, and it could actually meet the rated output power, unlike what some predicted. With the V2, Corsair upped some of the components like the +12V rectifiers (which improved efficiency too, so it could meet 80 plus), but did not put a heatsink on the bridge rectifier, for example. Maybe whoever it was that designed the thing knew whether or not it was necessary? And probably knew a lot of other things? Point being, it's hard to say even for an expert, and most random Internet dudes who think they know a lot aren't actually experts anyway. One thing worth mentioning is that most components internally are specified for way higher than the power supply will require them to run at the power supply's rated full load. It's when the values are close that somebody might be nervous, and probably with good reason. Yes. I fully understand that last bit, and what it says about what will happen when the PSU gives up, explosion or a normal death. And that's exactly what I want to know. I have the time, the basic knowledge to begin learning, and the means to do so. So its my responsibility to learn it. | ||
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needsoma
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G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Mhz for 40 bucks at newegg is this worth it? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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furlyman
55 Posts
MY BUILD: CPU - Core I7 Sandy Bridge I7-2600k ($314.99) Motherboard - ASUS P8Z68 DELUXE - ATX - LGA1155 Socket - Z68 ($244.99) Video Card - -EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1572-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (349.99) OR -EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1461-KR GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (199.99) RAM - Corsair Vengance 8 gig ($58.99) Power Supply - XFX PRO750W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80Plus Silver 750 Watt Power Supply ($99.99) Case - HAF 922 ($99) Hard Drive - May be able to salvage from my old cpu Total Cost : $1178 *Reposted from my WOW guilds website if ur wondering wtf im talking about =) My thoughts: My biggest concern is what graphics card to pick. I know Orcan suggested Radeon but I have never used anything but nvidia cards. I read alot of positive reviews on that particular model of 570 and it seems to be a beast of a card. The 560 also got fairly good reviews and is 150 dollars cheaper, which would give me a little more money to buy a better case. Right now I have the HAF 922 which is about 50 dollars cheaper than the 932 Orcan suggested and 100 dollars cheaper than the the HAF-X. I did alot of research on the motherboard and how it reacts with the CPU i choose and the consensus I gathered seems that it would be a good choice. If anyone gets the time to look over this and make any suggestions that would be awesome. thanks~_~_~ | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On October 05 2011 14:38 furlyman wrote: Ok I took some suggestions from here and read a shitload of reviews online. Prices may fluctuate as it will be over a month before I will actually purchase anything but here is what I have so far. All prices are from newegg so I may save a few bucks if I look around and compare prices. Would love some feedback and suggestions if possible. MY BUILD: CPU - Core I7 Sandy Bridge I7-2600k ($314.99) Motherboard - ASUS P8Z68 DELUXE - ATX - LGA1155 Socket - Z68 ($244.99) Video Card - -EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1572-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (349.99) OR -EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1461-KR GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (199.99) RAM - Corsair Vengance 8 gig ($58.99) Power Supply - XFX PRO750W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80Plus Silver 750 Watt Power Supply ($99.99) Case - HAF 922 ($99) Hard Drive - May be able to salvage from my old cpu Total Cost : $1178 *Reposted from my WOW guilds website if ur wondering wtf im talking about =) My thoughts: My biggest concern is what graphics card to pick. I know Orcan suggested Radeon but I have never used anything but nvidia cards. I read alot of positive reviews on that particular model of 570 and it seems to be a beast of a card. The 560 also got fairly good reviews and is 150 dollars cheaper, which would give me a little more money to buy a better case. Right now I have the HAF 922 which is about 50 dollars cheaper than the 932 Orcan suggested and 100 dollars cheaper than the the HAF-X. I did alot of research on the motherboard and how it reacts with the CPU i choose and the consensus I gathered seems that it would be a good choice. If anyone gets the time to look over this and make any suggestions that would be awesome. thanks~_~_~ What are you intending on doing with this computer? i7 only fiscally makes sense if you plan on streaming or doing video or photo editing. Also that PSU is way overpowered for any single card setup. That motherboard makes no sense at all. Its an enthusiast motherboard. Something in the 90 to 120 dollar makes much more sense for you. There is like 400 dollars worth of fluff in this build that isnt doing anything for you. Thats 400 dollars better spent on things like keeping your wallet full or buying another video card. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
You don't even have an aftermarket heatsink... Why would you pay $59 for memory I assume that's 1866MHz or 2000MHz or cas7 when it offers negligible performance increases? http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/sandy-bridge-ddr3.html http://www.anandtech.com/show/4503/sandy-bridge-memory-scaling-choosing-the-best-ddr3 http://techreport.com/articles.x/20377 Why pay for a P8Z68 Deluxe when the P8P67 Deluxe is the exact same thing except the chipset? Are you even going to benefit from Quick Sync because you're certainly not going to benefit from SSD caching... Why even pay for such an expensive board when you probably won't be using any of the extra features that it has over the P8P67 Pro or P8Z68-V...? If you plan on spending so much money, you might as well just get a core i7 3930k and a X79 instead... Why are you comparing a GTX 570 to a GTX 560 ... ? Comparing it to a GTX 560 Ti which is a tier below would make much more sense. I don't even know why you would pair a core i7 and a Z68 Deluxe with a $200 GPU lol. Why are you not getting an SSD? It's clearly within your budget and it improves the WoW experience since you won't be waiting for textures to load. | ||
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furlyman
55 Posts
On October 05 2011 14:42 Medrea wrote: + Show Spoiler + On October 05 2011 14:38 furlyman wrote: Budget: $1200-1250 Use: Gaming / Possible Streaming Ok I took some suggestions from here and read a shitload of reviews online. Prices may fluctuate as it will be over a month before I will actually purchase anything but here is what I have so far. All prices are from newegg so I may save a few bucks if I look around and compare prices. Would love some feedback and suggestions if possible. MY BUILD: CPU - Core I7 Sandy Bridge I7-2600k ($314.99) Motherboard - ASUS P8Z68 DELUXE - ATX - LGA1155 Socket - Z68 ($244.99) Video Card - -EVGA SuperClocked 012-P3-1572-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (349.99) OR -EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1461-KR GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (199.99) RAM - Corsair Vengance 8 gig ($58.99) Power Supply - XFX PRO750W XXX Edition Semi-Modular 80Plus Silver 750 Watt Power Supply ($99.99) Case - HAF 922 ($99) Hard Drive - May be able to salvage from my old cpu Total Cost : $1178 *Reposted from my WOW guilds website if ur wondering wtf im talking about =) My thoughts: My biggest concern is what graphics card to pick. I know Orcan suggested Radeon but I have never used anything but nvidia cards. I read alot of positive reviews on that particular model of 570 and it seems to be a beast of a card. The 560 also got fairly good reviews and is 150 dollars cheaper, which would give me a little more money to buy a better case. Right now I have the HAF 922 which is about 50 dollars cheaper than the 932 Orcan suggested and 100 dollars cheaper than the the HAF-X. I did alot of research on the motherboard and how it reacts with the CPU i choose and the consensus I gathered seems that it would be a good choice. If anyone gets the time to look over this and make any suggestions that would be awesome. thanks~_~_~ What are you intending on doing with this computer? i7 only fiscally makes sense if you plan on streaming or doing video or photo editing. Also that PSU is way overpowered for any single card setup. That motherboard makes no sense at all. Its an enthusiast motherboard. Something in the 90 to 120 dollar makes much more sense for you. There is like 400 dollars worth of fluff in this build that isnt doing anything for you. Thats 400 dollars better spent on things like keeping your wallet full or buying another video card. Hey thanks for the response I am new to building cpus and this is my first real attempt at a build. I am building the CPU strictly for gaming and may do some streaming in the future. Do you have any suggestions on a motherboard then? I am probably going to stick with the i7 no matter what and I want a mb that works well in conjunction with that. Any suggestions on the power supply? I appreciate the response but just basically telling me my build sucks doesnt really help me learn how to improve it =) Thanks again! | ||
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Sparkle Motion
Canada18 Posts
I'm a first-year architecture student in need of a laptop, and there's a mandatory minimum specs sheet for it. I know it'll run me a lot of money, but I'm trying to figure out how to get the cheapest price. Minimum specs: -Core i7 2nd Gen 2.2 GHz -8GB RAM -500GB HDD (but i'm going to need more space) -1GB Discrete Graphics -1920x1080 Resolution Also I'd prefer a 15" over a 17" since i'm going to have to lug it around a lot. Thanks! | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On October 05 2011 14:49 furlyman wrote: Hey thanks for the response I am new to building cpus and this is my first real attempt at a build. I am building the CPU strictly for gaming and may do some streaming in the future. Do you have any suggestions on a motherboard then? I am probably going to stick with the i7 no matter what and I want a mb that works well in conjunction with that. Any suggestions on the power supply? I appreciate the response but just basically telling me my build sucks doesnt really help me learn how to improve it =) Thanks again! No. Heh, but only because skyR just did, and your already in the perfect thread for finding out what you need. I like ASrock pro 3 p67 family motherboards (spent 90 on mine, two PCEi slots). i5 processor, and whatever RAM that makes sense. Antec Earthwatts 380 is right up your alley for a single card setup. But that's just me. Other people will say other things, for entirely valid reasons. But the main points remain. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
You'll want to use a different component for basically every one of those selections. On that budget (actually smaller) you'll want an i5-2500k, a cheaper ~$100-130 P67 or Z68 motherboard (ask here when you're ready to buy, these guys are experts), a 560Ti graphics card (better price performance than either you listed & more than enough for a 1920x1080 resolution - if you have a lower resolution get a cheaper card). You'll want cheaper (basically the cheapest 2x4gb 1333 ram, 1600 if you want to blow money for tiny tiny gains). I've heard people say the 912 is better than the 922 if you're looking at that line of cases. Apparently a newer design. Your power supply is also way overkill (again, ask on this forum when you're about ready to buy). You'll save some hundreds of dollars with a configuration the experts here can put together, but don't ask for specific details until you're ready to buy - then people will be happy at your courtesy and probably find the good deals for you. There's not much we can do now other than tell you your build sucks or give you a generic list like the above. When you're ready to buy return and fill out the OP questionnaire. Then if you want you can spend more on goodies like an SSD (I've heard WoW in particular can benefit from them). Edit: from your second post there are some basics you need to know. First:there's no reason to buy things you'll never need. Take, for example, motherboards. What do they do? They make other components work. Basically the only difference between them is how well they overclock processors, and what you can stick on them (number of ram slots, number of USB slots, etc). You can hear all you want about 'how well that processor works with that motherboard' but it's pretty useless. All of them are designed for the chips that fit in them. You need a motherboard that can fit the stuff you want to stick in it, and you can ask here to find out if they're decent at overclocking. Paying more for other things is just dumb. Second: you'll look less ungrateful if you accept good advice. The only benefit to i7 over i5 is hyperthreading. Do you know if you need hypterthreading? If not, tell people here what you want to do and they'll tell you if you need it. If you're going to ignore advice and get something else (this does not affect motherboard choice), keep it to yourself. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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