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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 13:20:39
October 06 2011 13:14 GMT
#12601
this is a good deal:
http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_557_558&item_id=041223

gtx 560 ti pricing is kind of crap there

Like, this isn't too much more:
http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_557_559&item_id=036588

well pricematching is OP <_<
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 06 2011 13:17 GMT
#12602
Get the EVGA: http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?&item_id=036000 , pricematch to $238.69: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11610BD1412
strikerz200
Profile Joined September 2011
58 Posts
October 06 2011 13:47 GMT
#12603
On October 06 2011 22:17 skyR wrote:
Get the EVGA: http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?&item_id=036000 , pricematch to $238.69: http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11610BD1412


will do, thanks
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 06 2011 14:47 GMT
#12604
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/10/04/80_plus_irrelevant_to_you_when_buying_psu

This was an interesting read and I'm sure most people here already know that you really should read reviews on PSUs.

With that being said, do you guys think this would be okay in theory:
http://www.computeruniverse.net/products/e90359724/inter-tech-coba-ecostar-80-450-watt.asp

The system wouldn't consume more than 250W of power and it's the cheapest PSU with the PCIe connections I need but it's Inter-Tech and I really don't believe it's bronze in reality...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Madoga
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 15:09:06
October 06 2011 15:07 GMT
#12605
Its a bad version of this:
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.tweakpc.de/hardware/tests/netzteile/cougar_cmx_550/s01.php&langpair=de|en&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Another review:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.planet3dnow.de/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=387286

Atleast I think so.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 06 2011 15:28 GMT
#12606
So overall it's a decent choice for the price and shouldn't explode around 300w and should have bearable ripple? Hmm okay, then I could build a computer that plays SC2 on ultra apart from CPU settings for 360€ with shipping. =P
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Madoga
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 15:47:00
October 06 2011 15:39 GMT
#12607
I dont know if its any good. According to plugloadsolutions its the same platform. Looking at the weak +12v rail and the efficiency they probably skimped on some/a lot of parts or its overlabeled

Overall. if you dont use it for more than 400W, I dont think it will blow up your computer. But for that money you can most likely get something better(atleast here in holland/germany).

[edit]
It could allso be better than I'm portraiting it out to be :p.

For a bit more you have a coolermaster gx450W. Allso not stellar, but atleast you know what you're getting.
Raavi
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark156 Posts
October 06 2011 17:05 GMT
#12608
I got my parts for my new pc, and planning to build it tomorrow. Its my first time so i have some questions i hope someone would answer

1) Should i turn on the EPU/TPU switches?
If i dont, is it possible to control them in the bios?

2) Im building an SLI setup. Would it be better to just plug in 1 of the cards, and then add the second once the computer is up and running? or does it even matter?

Thx!
strikerz200
Profile Joined September 2011
58 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 17:58:52
October 06 2011 17:58 GMT
#12609
I picked up EVGA 560Ti this morning. been testing it for 2 hrs.
Medium setting runs at 70~80fps or so. (BF3)
and tf2 high runs at 50~200

but why is my tf2 fps dipping down to as low as 50 soemtimes?
fps in action is low compared to 9800gt I think.... weird?
and 9800gt was garbage card compared to this.

my cpu is i3-2100 sandybridge.
this never happend to me with 9800gt
mostly stayed 70fps +
Leeto
Profile Joined August 2007
United States1320 Posts
October 06 2011 18:34 GMT
#12610
Does anyone know whether LoL is CPU or GPU intensive? I'm thinking about getting a laptop that can play LoL and SC2 at minimum settings at 1080p, while still being relatively portable.


Thanks
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 18:48:50
October 06 2011 18:48 GMT
#12611
I'd always thought of LoL as just plain not-intensive. I didn't play max settings, but if you just want minimum settings, if you can run SC2 you can run LoL just fine.

Edit: no idea if Dominion changed things. Compare their recommended requirements I suppose.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
October 06 2011 18:50 GMT
#12612
LoL can be played on max settings with a low end gpu and cpu (understand, not an old 5 years old already low end at the time)
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 06 2011 19:24 GMT
#12613
On October 07 2011 02:05 Raavi wrote:
I got my parts for my new pc, and planning to build it tomorrow. Its my first time so i have some questions i hope someone would answer

1) Should i turn on the EPU/TPU switches?
If i dont, is it possible to control them in the bios?

2) Im building an SLI setup. Would it be better to just plug in 1 of the cards, and then add the second once the computer is up and running? or does it even matter?

Thx!


I forgot what it comes default as but you should just leave it as default until you are experiencing issues. You can control both in the BIOS as well.

It does not matter. The former method is more convenient if in chance one of the cards you got is DOA.

On October 07 2011 03:34 Leeto wrote:
Does anyone know whether LoL is CPU or GPU intensive? I'm thinking about getting a laptop that can play LoL and SC2 at minimum settings at 1080p, while still being relatively portable.

Thanks


LoL is more CPU intensive than GPU though it's not a demanding game to begin with.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
October 06 2011 19:25 GMT
#12614
On October 07 2011 02:58 strikerz200 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I picked up EVGA 560Ti this morning. been testing it for 2 hrs.
Medium setting runs at 70~80fps or so. (BF3)
and tf2 high runs at 50~200

but why is my tf2 fps dipping down to as low as 50 soemtimes?
fps in action is low compared to 9800gt I think.... weird?
and 9800gt was garbage card compared to this.

my cpu is i3-2100 sandybridge.
this never happend to me with 9800gt
mostly stayed 70fps +



(not sure if this is required) did you completely remove drivers before changing the card? And then are the new drivers installed?

Did you connect both 6-pin power connectors to the GPU?

Have you checked its temps (unlikely a problem) under load?

What PSU do you have?
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 06 2011 20:31 GMT
#12615
Okay so my roommates computer "broke down" and he wants me to build him a new one since he is computer illiterate. His old rig was kind of crappy anyway so we're not going to bother fixing the old one.

He wants to play all games on max @ 1080p for the next two years. He would like to play BF3 at max, but if it really takes two 580s in SLI he isn't going to waste the money. His upgrade cycle is approx. 2 years and his budget is $1k CAD. It doesn't have to be exact, that's just a general number. He has monitor, keyboard, etc, he just needs the rig.

I don't really follow too many prices, so I would appreciate it if someone has some good cheap links they could provide.

I'm thinking i5-2500k because OCing isn't a problem. We'll need a relatively good CPU cooler and mobo for OCing, I guess we'll aim for 4.5-4.7GHz. RAM is cheap, so we'll probably get 8GB 1333MHz (unless 1600MHz is about the same price). We won't bother with an SSD because he probably doesn't even know what it is and I'm not going to baby his computer and install everything in proper places for him. I suppose we'll go for a 1TB Samsung Spinpoint unless there's a better alternative. He'll need a case with good room/airflow since his current case is a piece of shit. A couple months ago his PSU died, and he got a new one, so we'll probably reuse that, assuming it's still functioning. It was a Rosewill something 500-520W I think. Will this be enough quality power for the rig if we get a high end GPU? On to the GPU, what would you recommend? We would have about $400-500 left in the budget for a card, right? GTX 580? Go ATi?

Thanks
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 20:41:50
October 06 2011 20:39 GMT
#12616
On October 07 2011 03:34 Leeto wrote:
Does anyone know whether LoL is CPU or GPU intensive? I'm thinking about getting a laptop that can play LoL and SC2 at minimum settings at 1080p, while still being relatively portable.

Thanks

1080p eh?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834152258

Don't even need to play on low =) Unless you don't actually require the laptop itself to have 1080p and use a monitor?

On October 07 2011 05:31 Grobyc wrote:
Okay so my roommates computer "broke down" and he wants me to build him a new one since he is computer illiterate. His old rig was kind of crappy anyway so we're not going to bother fixing the old one.

He wants to play all games on max @ 1080p for the next two years. He would like to play BF3 at max, but if it really takes two 580s in SLI he isn't going to waste the money. His upgrade cycle is approx. 2 years and his budget is $1k CAD. It doesn't have to be exact, that's just a general number. He has monitor, keyboard, etc, he just needs the rig.

I don't really follow too many prices, so I would appreciate it if someone has some good cheap links they could provide.

I'm thinking i5-2500k because OCing isn't a problem. We'll need a relatively good CPU cooler and mobo for OCing, I guess we'll aim for 4.5-4.7GHz. RAM is cheap, so we'll probably get 8GB 1333MHz (unless 1600MHz is about the same price). We won't bother with an SSD because he probably doesn't even know what it is and I'm not going to baby his computer and install everything in proper places for him. I suppose we'll go for a 1TB Samsung Spinpoint unless there's a better alternative. He'll need a case with good room/airflow since his current case is a piece of shit. A couple months ago his PSU died, and he got a new one, so we'll probably reuse that, assuming it's still functioning. It was a Rosewill something 500-520W I think. Will this be enough quality power for the rig if we get a high end GPU? On to the GPU, what would you recommend? We would have about $400-500 left in the budget for a card, right? GTX 580? Go ATi?

Thanks

Hi, for maxing every game in 1080p with a 1000$ budget, check out both of the 1000$ builds here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=271861
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 06 2011 21:10 GMT
#12617
Cool, I'll look through it, thanks
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 21:42:11
October 06 2011 21:12 GMT
#12618
On October 07 2011 05:31 Grobyc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Okay so my roommates computer "broke down" and he wants me to build him a new one since he is computer illiterate. His old rig was kind of crappy anyway so we're not going to bother fixing the old one.

He wants to play all games on max @ 1080p for the next two years. He would like to play BF3 at max, but if it really takes two 580s in SLI he isn't going to waste the money. His upgrade cycle is approx. 2 years and his budget is $1k CAD. It doesn't have to be exact, that's just a general number. He has monitor, keyboard, etc, he just needs the rig.

I don't really follow too many prices, so I would appreciate it if someone has some good cheap links they could provide.

I'm thinking i5-2500k because OCing isn't a problem. We'll need a relatively good CPU cooler and mobo for OCing, I guess we'll aim for 4.5-4.7GHz. RAM is cheap, so we'll probably get 8GB 1333MHz (unless 1600MHz is about the same price). We won't bother with an SSD because he probably doesn't even know what it is and I'm not going to baby his computer and install everything in proper places for him. I suppose we'll go for a 1TB Samsung Spinpoint unless there's a better alternative. He'll need a case with good room/airflow since his current case is a piece of shit. A couple months ago his PSU died, and he got a new one, so we'll probably reuse that, assuming it's still functioning. It was a Rosewill something 500-520W I think. Will this be enough quality power for the rig if we get a high end GPU? On to the GPU, what would you recommend? We would have about $400-500 left in the budget for a card, right? GTX 580? Go ATi?

Thanks


Lol bad timing to be purchasing components in Canada unfortunately as most component pricing have increased.

I'm guessing you can re-use the DVD drive as well so I didn't include that. Your budget doesn't really allow for a GTX 580 and there is little reason to get one ... it would be a much better option to do SLI or CrossfireX with a card in the $180-$250 range such as the Radeon HD6870, HD6950, or GTX 560 Ti. However you would need a new power supply to accomplish this though power supply prices haven't really much changed and a multi-GPU capable one would only cost about $70. I would recommend a GTX 560 Ti or a Radeon HD6950 1GB, both of which would accomplish reasonably high settings for the next two or three years.

Purchasing a Rosewill was a very poor decision. A Samsung Spinpoint F3 is also not available in Canada... Not to mention Newegg sucks...

Here's a configuratiaon for $766 before mail in rebates:

Intel Core i5 2500k @ $210 (pricematch with http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX31557(ME).aspx )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57962

MSI P67A-G43 @ $125 ($105 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130583 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59095

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $51 ($46 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD3503 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544

Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti @ $235 ($205 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125363 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58366

Bitfenix Shinobi @ $61 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/236378/BitFenix/BFC_SNB_150_WWWB_SP/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=62891&promoid=1292
+ Show Spoiler +
or whatever case to your friend's liking

Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB @ $60 (pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136767 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58881

Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $24 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/218427/RR-B10-212P-G1/COOLERMASTER/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=41337
Errol
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Canada102 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 22:23:48
October 06 2011 21:38 GMT
#12619
Hey, I've been working on a build and I'm just wondering if I'm missing anything or if I can get some better deals. I'm exclusively using NCIX since I live in Canada and they'll assemble it too, build's at about $1200 at the moment. The HAF 912 is on back order and I was wondering if the Antec 300's enough for crossfire. Here's my build:

MB: MSI P67A-G43 (B3) P67 ATX LGA1155
RAM: G.SKILL F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL Ripjaws 2X4GB DDR3-1333
CPU: i5 2500k 3.3ghz
CPU Fan: Cooler Master Hyper 212
GPU: 2x XFX Radeon HD 6870 900MHZ 1GB 4.2GHZ
HDD: Western Digital WD20EARS Caviar Green 2TB SATA2
PSU: Antec Earthwatts Green 650W
CD/DVD Drive: LG GH24LS70 24X SATA
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912
SSD: Crucial M4 64
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT
Wireless Adapter: D-LINK DWA-552 Xtreme N Desktop Adapter 802.11B/G/N

Edit: Price included the $40 assembly fee as well, knocked the price down $75 with price matching. Changed the SSD to Crucial M4 and Win7 to a cheaper one.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 06 2011 21:47 GMT
#12620
That build seems fine, though I don't really understand how it costs so much.

How about you do pricematching? That build really should cost maybe 1150 without SSD and that crappy SSD really isn't worth 150.
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