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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 21:52:07
October 06 2011 21:51 GMT
#12621
On October 07 2011 06:38 Errol wrote:
Hey, I've been working on a build and I'm just wondering if I'm missing anything or if I can get some better deals. I'm exclusively using NCIX since I live in Canada and they'll assemble it too, build's at about $1300 at the moment. The HAF 912 is on back order and I was wondering if the Antec 300's enough for crossfire. Here's my build:

MB: MSI P67A-G43 (B3) P67 ATX LGA1155
RAM: G.SKILL F3-10666CL9D-8GBRL Ripjaws 2X4GB DDR3-1333
CPU: i5 2500k 3.3ghz
CPU Fan: Cooler Master Hyper 212
GPU: 2x XFX Radeon HD 6870 900MHZ 1GB 4.2GHZ
HDD: Western Digital WD20EARS Caviar Green 2TB SATA2
PSU: Antec Earthwatts Green 650W
CD/DVD Drive: LG GH24LS70 24X SATA
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912
SSD: OCZ Vertex 2 Extended Sandforce 60GB SATA2
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT
Wireless Adapter: D-LINK DWA-552 Xtreme N Desktop Adapter 802.11B/G/N


MSI P67 G43, pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130583 for $124.99.

Intel Core i5 2500k, pricematch with http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX31557(ME).aspx for $209.99.

Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB, pricematch with http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5758911 for $69.97

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 for $99.99: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1292

Coolermaster Hyper 212+, pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/218427/RR-B10-212P-G1/COOLERMASTER/ for $24.20

Get Mushkins instead for $50.63: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544 after pricematching with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD3503

I would not recommend any Sandforce based SSD, especially not a Vertex 2 at that price. Get the Crucial M4 64gb instead for $109.69: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60444 after pricematching with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11230DR4284 It's better in basically every way.
Trickstaloki
Profile Joined December 2010
United States164 Posts
October 06 2011 21:59 GMT
#12622
People still buy Windows OS? Note he has 2 6870s and included OS/router...that might be why the cost is so high. I'd say shave some $$$ and get two 6950s instead. I'd cut the SSD for now, grab two 6950s then grab a SSD during black friday.
Errol
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Canada102 Posts
October 06 2011 22:49 GMT
#12623
Oh my, you guys are fast. Thanks for the advice, I shaved off about $75 with the price matching.

@Trickstaloki
Yeah the OS, Wireless Adapter, and crossfire add up. Also paying $40 for them to assemble the computer. I'm kind of set on the 6870's but I'd save like $48 going with the 6850's so I'll consider it at least. I'll have to look into the Black Friday thing, sounds kind of dire but saving money's always good.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 23:03:02
October 06 2011 22:59 GMT
#12624
On October 07 2011 07:49 Errol wrote:
Oh my, you guys are fast. Thanks for the advice, I shaved off about $75 with the price matching.

@Trickstaloki
Yeah the OS, Wireless Adapter, and crossfire add up. Also paying $40 for them to assemble the computer. I'm kind of set on the 6870's but I'd save like $48 going with the 6850's so I'll consider it at least. I'll have to look into the Black Friday thing, sounds kind of dire but saving money's always good.

His recommendation was 6950s =P

Imo 6870 would be the best thing to crossfire(surprise surprise), it's only like 40 dollars more than crossfiring 6850s and 6850s might not run absolutely everything in 1080p like the 6870s will.

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1445/7/

Read on from that, the difference is quite significant at least to me.
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Chewits
Profile Joined September 2006
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
October 07 2011 00:30 GMT
#12625
Hello all. I have not built a PC in over 10 years now. I am looking in building a good gaming machine, that can run SC2 at max, Dota 2 and some cool FPS games like Rage etc. I am selling my 3 year old iMac to cover alot of the cost. I am in no hurry to purchase parts and have no problem in buying some parts and waiting on others. Would like to be up and running with 1-2 months though


What is your budget?

Ideally do not want to spend anymore than £700. May be flex in this.

What is your resolution?

Current monitor is 1680 x 1050. However I would like to be able to plug this up to my Samsung 40" TV via HDMI which is 1920 x 1080.

What are you using it for?

Mostly gaming. However I would like to have possiblity to watch Blu Ray movies on my TV. I also would like to do some streaming of games etc.

What is your upgrade cycle?

I am not intending to upgrade for quite some time after this build. I would like it to last, or at least only have a small part need to be upgraded.

When do you plan on building it?

Within the next 1-2 months.

Do you plan on overclocking?

I think I would like to overclock, if there is significant advantages. However if it is too expensive, I dont have too.

Do you need an Operating System?

No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Probably not.

Where are you buying your parts from?

I am from the UK. The expensive UK

-----------

Ok so, I am new and this is some of my first bit of research. This is what I have got so far;

CPU
Intel Core i5 2500K 3.3GHz Socket 1155 6MB Cache
http://www.ebuyer.com/251596-intel-core-i5-2500k-3-3ghz-socket-1155-6mb-cache-retail-boxed-processor-bx80623i52500k
£169.49

M/B
Asus P8P67 PRO REV 3.1 Socket 1155 8 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard
http://www.ebuyer.com/282891-asus-p8p67-pro-rev-3-1-socket-1155-8-channel-audio-atx-motherboard-p8p67-pro-rev-3-1-
£120.27

CPU FAN
CoolerMaster Hyper TX3 Cooler LGA775/1156/1155/AM2/AM3
http://www.ebuyer.com/195684-coolermaster-hyper-tx3-cooler-lga775-1156-1155-am2-am3-rr-910-htx3-gp
£18.64

RAM
Corsair 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz x 2 (8GB)
http://www.ebuyer.com/173122-corsair-4gb-2x2gb-ddr3-1600mhz-pc3-12800-xms3-i5-memory-kit-cl9-9-9-9-24-1-65v-cmx4gx3m2a1600c9
£55.14

GFX
Sapphire HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E
http://www.ebuyer.com/271292-sapphire-hd-6870-1gb-gddr5-dvi-hdmi-displayport-pci-e-graphics-card-11179-09-20g
£145.58

HD
Seagate 1TB 3.5" Barracuda SATA-III 6Gb/s Hard Drive - 7200RPM 32MB Cache
http://www.ebuyer.com/252858-seagate-1tb-3-5-barracuda-sata-iii-6gb-s-hard-drive-7200rpm-32mb-cache-st31000524as
£45.04

OPTICAL
LiteOn iHOS104 4x BD-ROM SATA Blu-Ray Drive
http://www.ebuyer.com/172638-liteon-ihos104-4x-bd-rom-sata-blu-ray-drive-oem-black-ihos104-37
£39.99

POWER
Corsair 600W CX Series V2 PSU - 6x SATA 2x PCI-E
http://www.ebuyer.com/269259-corsair-600w-cx-series-v2-psu-6x-sata-2x-pci-e-cmpsu-600cxv2uk
£52.78

CASE
Fractal Design Core 3000 Case
http://www.ebuyer.com/270598-fractal-design-core-3000-case-fd-ca-core-3000-bl
£51.58


TOTAL = £698.51


----

A few things, I am not sure on the power supply, that may be too much? This is all on ebuyer as you can see, perhaps there is better UK sites, that are cheaper? Anything else I can shave money on? If I can get it cheaper than this, I be happy. Also what is likelyhood of these prices dropping within the next month?

Thanks
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89vision
Profile Joined September 2010
United States70 Posts
October 07 2011 00:40 GMT
#12626
This PSU ok?

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=33040&vpn=OCZ500MXSP&manufacture=OCZ Technology&promoid=1297



The combo deal for i72500k+mobo seems cheap... is the i72500k not worth much over the i52500k?
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=64195&vpn=i7 2500K&P67X-UD3-B3&manufacture=Bundle Deals&promoid=1297

An itch only a deadlift can scratch
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 07 2011 00:52 GMT
#12627
There's no such thing as a core i7 2500k. It's a typo and if you scroll further down to the parts included, you would realize it's a core i5 2500k. And that combo isn't cheap.

ModXStream is an okay power supply.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 01:36:11
October 07 2011 01:34 GMT
#12628
@Chewits

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 07 2011 09:30 Chewits wrote:
Hello all. I have not built a PC in over 10 years now. I am looking in building a good gaming machine, that can run SC2 at max, Dota 2 and some cool FPS games like Rage etc. I am selling my 3 year old iMac to cover alot of the cost. I am in no hurry to purchase parts and have no problem in buying some parts and waiting on others. Would like to be up and running with 1-2 months though


What is your budget?

Ideally do not want to spend anymore than £700. May be flex in this.

What is your resolution?

Current monitor is 1680 x 1050. However I would like to be able to plug this up to my Samsung 40" TV via HDMI which is 1920 x 1080.

What are you using it for?

Mostly gaming. However I would like to have possiblity to watch Blu Ray movies on my TV. I also would like to do some streaming of games etc.

What is your upgrade cycle?

I am not intending to upgrade for quite some time after this build. I would like it to last, or at least only have a small part need to be upgraded.

When do you plan on building it?

Within the next 1-2 months.

Do you plan on overclocking?

I think I would like to overclock, if there is significant advantages. However if it is too expensive, I dont have too.

Do you need an Operating System?

No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Probably not.

Where are you buying your parts from?

I am from the UK. The expensive UK

-----------

Ok so, I am new and this is some of my first bit of research. This is what I have got so far;

CPU
Intel Core i5 2500K 3.3GHz Socket 1155 6MB Cache
http://www.ebuyer.com/251596-intel-core-i5-2500k-3-3ghz-socket-1155-6mb-cache-retail-boxed-processor-bx80623i52500k
£169.49

M/B
Asus P8P67 PRO REV 3.1 Socket 1155 8 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard
http://www.ebuyer.com/282891-asus-p8p67-pro-rev-3-1-socket-1155-8-channel-audio-atx-motherboard-p8p67-pro-rev-3-1-
£120.27

CPU FAN
CoolerMaster Hyper TX3 Cooler LGA775/1156/1155/AM2/AM3
http://www.ebuyer.com/195684-coolermaster-hyper-tx3-cooler-lga775-1156-1155-am2-am3-rr-910-htx3-gp
£18.64

RAM
Corsair 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz x 2 (8GB)
http://www.ebuyer.com/173122-corsair-4gb-2x2gb-ddr3-1600mhz-pc3-12800-xms3-i5-memory-kit-cl9-9-9-9-24-1-65v-cmx4gx3m2a1600c9
£55.14

GFX
Sapphire HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E
http://www.ebuyer.com/271292-sapphire-hd-6870-1gb-gddr5-dvi-hdmi-displayport-pci-e-graphics-card-11179-09-20g
£145.58

HD
Seagate 1TB 3.5" Barracuda SATA-III 6Gb/s Hard Drive - 7200RPM 32MB Cache
http://www.ebuyer.com/252858-seagate-1tb-3-5-barracuda-sata-iii-6gb-s-hard-drive-7200rpm-32mb-cache-st31000524as
£45.04

OPTICAL
LiteOn iHOS104 4x BD-ROM SATA Blu-Ray Drive
http://www.ebuyer.com/172638-liteon-ihos104-4x-bd-rom-sata-blu-ray-drive-oem-black-ihos104-37
£39.99

POWER
Corsair 600W CX Series V2 PSU - 6x SATA 2x PCI-E
http://www.ebuyer.com/269259-corsair-600w-cx-series-v2-psu-6x-sata-2x-pci-e-cmpsu-600cxv2uk
£52.78

CASE
Fractal Design Core 3000 Case
http://www.ebuyer.com/270598-fractal-design-core-3000-case-fd-ca-core-3000-bl
£51.58


TOTAL = £698.51


----

A few things, I am not sure on the power supply, that may be too much? This is all on ebuyer as you can see, perhaps there is better UK sites, that are cheaper? Anything else I can shave money on? If I can get it cheaper than this, I be happy. Also what is likelyhood of these prices dropping within the next month?

Thanks


There is probably a cheaper ASRock Pro3 out there you can get that is cheaper than that motherboard and will have fine everything else. The motherboard you linked uses x8x8 when x16x4 motherboards are fine especially for someone not running a dual GPU system.

You really won't see any benefit at all from 1600 RAM, go with 8 gigs of cheaper RAM, Mushkin is a fine RAM maker I believe, though some places you can find 1600 at a steal.

You don't need 600W for a single card system. Corsair is a fine brand, and you should stick with fine brands, but 600W is a bit too much. In other words, you were right!
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 07 2011 01:46 GMT
#12629
On October 07 2011 06:12 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 05:31 Grobyc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Okay so my roommates computer "broke down" and he wants me to build him a new one since he is computer illiterate. His old rig was kind of crappy anyway so we're not going to bother fixing the old one.

He wants to play all games on max @ 1080p for the next two years. He would like to play BF3 at max, but if it really takes two 580s in SLI he isn't going to waste the money. His upgrade cycle is approx. 2 years and his budget is $1k CAD. It doesn't have to be exact, that's just a general number. He has monitor, keyboard, etc, he just needs the rig.

I don't really follow too many prices, so I would appreciate it if someone has some good cheap links they could provide.

I'm thinking i5-2500k because OCing isn't a problem. We'll need a relatively good CPU cooler and mobo for OCing, I guess we'll aim for 4.5-4.7GHz. RAM is cheap, so we'll probably get 8GB 1333MHz (unless 1600MHz is about the same price). We won't bother with an SSD because he probably doesn't even know what it is and I'm not going to baby his computer and install everything in proper places for him. I suppose we'll go for a 1TB Samsung Spinpoint unless there's a better alternative. He'll need a case with good room/airflow since his current case is a piece of shit. A couple months ago his PSU died, and he got a new one, so we'll probably reuse that, assuming it's still functioning. It was a Rosewill something 500-520W I think. Will this be enough quality power for the rig if we get a high end GPU? On to the GPU, what would you recommend? We would have about $400-500 left in the budget for a card, right? GTX 580? Go ATi?

Thanks

+ Show Spoiler +

Lol bad timing to be purchasing components in Canada unfortunately as most component pricing have increased.

I'm guessing you can re-use the DVD drive as well so I didn't include that. Your budget doesn't really allow for a GTX 580 and there is little reason to get one ... it would be a much better option to do SLI or CrossfireX with a card in the $180-$250 range such as the Radeon HD6870, HD6950, or GTX 560 Ti. However you would need a new power supply to accomplish this though power supply prices haven't really much changed and a multi-GPU capable one would only cost about $70. I would recommend a GTX 560 Ti or a Radeon HD6950 1GB, both of which would accomplish reasonably high settings for the next two or three years.

Purchasing a Rosewill was a very poor decision. A Samsung Spinpoint F3 is also not available in Canada... Not to mention Newegg sucks...

Here's a configuratiaon for $766 before mail in rebates:

Intel Core i5 2500k @ $210 (pricematch with http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX31557(ME).aspx )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57962

MSI P67A-G43 @ $125 ($105 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130583 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59095

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $51 ($46 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD3503 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544

Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti @ $235 ($205 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125363 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58366

Bitfenix Shinobi @ $61 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/236378/BitFenix/BFC_SNB_150_WWWB_SP/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=62891&promoid=1292
+ Show Spoiler +
or whatever case to your friend's liking

Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB @ $60 (pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136767 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58881

Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $24 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/218427/RR-B10-212P-G1/COOLERMASTER/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=41337


Thanks. Quick question though: how much of a difference is there between the 6950 1GB and the 6950 2GB? Also, what kind of performance increase do you get by "unlocking" it from a 6950 to a 6970 and how difficult is it?
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 01:52:24
October 07 2011 01:50 GMT
#12630
On October 07 2011 10:46 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 06:12 skyR wrote:
On October 07 2011 05:31 Grobyc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Okay so my roommates computer "broke down" and he wants me to build him a new one since he is computer illiterate. His old rig was kind of crappy anyway so we're not going to bother fixing the old one.

He wants to play all games on max @ 1080p for the next two years. He would like to play BF3 at max, but if it really takes two 580s in SLI he isn't going to waste the money. His upgrade cycle is approx. 2 years and his budget is $1k CAD. It doesn't have to be exact, that's just a general number. He has monitor, keyboard, etc, he just needs the rig.

I don't really follow too many prices, so I would appreciate it if someone has some good cheap links they could provide.

I'm thinking i5-2500k because OCing isn't a problem. We'll need a relatively good CPU cooler and mobo for OCing, I guess we'll aim for 4.5-4.7GHz. RAM is cheap, so we'll probably get 8GB 1333MHz (unless 1600MHz is about the same price). We won't bother with an SSD because he probably doesn't even know what it is and I'm not going to baby his computer and install everything in proper places for him. I suppose we'll go for a 1TB Samsung Spinpoint unless there's a better alternative. He'll need a case with good room/airflow since his current case is a piece of shit. A couple months ago his PSU died, and he got a new one, so we'll probably reuse that, assuming it's still functioning. It was a Rosewill something 500-520W I think. Will this be enough quality power for the rig if we get a high end GPU? On to the GPU, what would you recommend? We would have about $400-500 left in the budget for a card, right? GTX 580? Go ATi?

Thanks

+ Show Spoiler +

Lol bad timing to be purchasing components in Canada unfortunately as most component pricing have increased.

I'm guessing you can re-use the DVD drive as well so I didn't include that. Your budget doesn't really allow for a GTX 580 and there is little reason to get one ... it would be a much better option to do SLI or CrossfireX with a card in the $180-$250 range such as the Radeon HD6870, HD6950, or GTX 560 Ti. However you would need a new power supply to accomplish this though power supply prices haven't really much changed and a multi-GPU capable one would only cost about $70. I would recommend a GTX 560 Ti or a Radeon HD6950 1GB, both of which would accomplish reasonably high settings for the next two or three years.

Purchasing a Rosewill was a very poor decision. A Samsung Spinpoint F3 is also not available in Canada... Not to mention Newegg sucks...

Here's a configuratiaon for $766 before mail in rebates:

Intel Core i5 2500k @ $210 (pricematch with http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX31557(ME).aspx )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57962

MSI P67A-G43 @ $125 ($105 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130583 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59095

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $51 ($46 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950BD3503 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544

Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti @ $235 ($205 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125363 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58366

Bitfenix Shinobi @ $61 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/236378/BitFenix/BFC_SNB_150_WWWB_SP/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=62891&promoid=1292
+ Show Spoiler +
or whatever case to your friend's liking

Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB @ $60 (pricematch with http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136767 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58881

Coolermaster Hyper 212+ @ $24 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/218427/RR-B10-212P-G1/COOLERMASTER/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=41337


Thanks. Quick question though: how much of a difference is there between the 6950 1GB and the 6950 2GB? Also, what kind of performance increase do you get by "unlocking" it from a 6950 to a 6970 and how difficult is it?


It isn't hard to reflash the firmware but you run the risk of making it into a brick. Most warranty's will not cover a card that has been bricked in this way.
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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
October 07 2011 02:01 GMT
#12631
Between 1GB and 2GB version there's no difference in performance unless you're cranking up AA on really high resolutions like 2560x1440, on some titles.

Reflashing is not worth the risk in my estimation. You also have to stick with certain models (often times the original ones with the noisier stock cooling) and pay for the 2GB version. And then the GPU you get might not actually run well with HD 6970's shader count. Even if it works, maybe it won't work at HD 6970 clocks. Maybe it was binned to be a HD 6950 because is significant defects in the deactivated parts.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 02:12:48
October 07 2011 02:07 GMT
#12632
On October 07 2011 11:01 Myrmidon wrote:
Between 1GB and 2GB version there's no difference in performance unless you're cranking up AA on really high resolutions like 2560x1440, on some titles.

Reflashing is not worth the risk in my estimation. You also have to stick with certain models (often times the original ones with the noisier stock cooling) and pay for the 2GB version. And then the GPU you get might not actually run well with HD 6970's shader count. Even if it works, maybe it won't work at HD 6970 clocks. Maybe it was binned to be a HD 6950 because is significant defects in the deactivated parts.


Exactly. 6950's are failed 6970's at heart. The old 6950's were built under an old classification, when under the current one some, but not all, would probably have gotten away with being a low end 6970. That does not mean old 6950's ARE 6970, and its important to recognize that difference.
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Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 02:10:33
October 07 2011 02:10 GMT
#12633
I'm gonna start assembling my comp on Saturday, and as this is my very first time, I have a question before I start. Since I'm standing on carpet, will that be dangerous to my components? Do I have to get some kind of grounder?
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
October 07 2011 02:14 GMT
#12634
As long as your environment isn't overly dry, you're not wearing polyester, you're not rubbing your feet against the carpet, and you touch the doorknob to discharge before starting, you should be fine.
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
October 07 2011 02:22 GMT
#12635
On October 07 2011 11:10 Dreamer.T wrote:
I'm gonna start assembling my comp on Saturday, and as this is my very first time, I have a question before I start. Since I'm standing on carpet, will that be dangerous to my components? Do I have to get some kind of grounder?

carpet isn't the greatest place to be assembling a PC. preferably you'd do it off carpet, but if you absolutely can't avoid it just touch the case (if it's metal) ever-so-often to discharge any static you might have accumulated.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
October 07 2011 05:38 GMT
#12636
Okay, thanks for the suggestions. My kitchen area has no carpet, so I'm planning on assembling it there.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 07 2011 08:07 GMT
#12637
Just ordered the parts:
i5 2500k
8GB Mushkin 1333MHz
MSI P67A-G43
Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti
Thermaltake V4 Black Edition
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB
Coolermaster Hyper 212+
Antec Earthwatts Green 650W
LG GH24LS70 24X

After price matches and shipping & taxes it came to just over 1k, which is great considering we got about $75 in MiR as well. Right on budget, thanks a bunch.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
October 07 2011 08:33 GMT
#12638
On October 07 2011 11:10 Dreamer.T wrote:
I'm gonna start assembling my comp on Saturday, and as this is my very first time, I have a question before I start. Since I'm standing on carpet, will that be dangerous to my components? Do I have to get some kind of grounder?


Even though it's not neccesary, an anti-static wrist strap is not a bad idea to put your mind at ease.
Chewits
Profile Joined September 2006
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 10:37:59
October 07 2011 10:37 GMT
#12639
On October 07 2011 10:34 Medrea wrote:
@Chewits

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 07 2011 09:30 Chewits wrote:
Hello all. I have not built a PC in over 10 years now. I am looking in building a good gaming machine, that can run SC2 at max, Dota 2 and some cool FPS games like Rage etc. I am selling my 3 year old iMac to cover alot of the cost. I am in no hurry to purchase parts and have no problem in buying some parts and waiting on others. Would like to be up and running with 1-2 months though


What is your budget?

Ideally do not want to spend anymore than £700. May be flex in this.

What is your resolution?

Current monitor is 1680 x 1050. However I would like to be able to plug this up to my Samsung 40" TV via HDMI which is 1920 x 1080.

What are you using it for?

Mostly gaming. However I would like to have possiblity to watch Blu Ray movies on my TV. I also would like to do some streaming of games etc.

What is your upgrade cycle?

I am not intending to upgrade for quite some time after this build. I would like it to last, or at least only have a small part need to be upgraded.

When do you plan on building it?

Within the next 1-2 months.

Do you plan on overclocking?

I think I would like to overclock, if there is significant advantages. However if it is too expensive, I dont have too.

Do you need an Operating System?

No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Probably not.

Where are you buying your parts from?

I am from the UK. The expensive UK

-----------

Ok so, I am new and this is some of my first bit of research. This is what I have got so far;

CPU
Intel Core i5 2500K 3.3GHz Socket 1155 6MB Cache
http://www.ebuyer.com/251596-intel-core-i5-2500k-3-3ghz-socket-1155-6mb-cache-retail-boxed-processor-bx80623i52500k
£169.49

M/B
Asus P8P67 PRO REV 3.1 Socket 1155 8 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard
http://www.ebuyer.com/282891-asus-p8p67-pro-rev-3-1-socket-1155-8-channel-audio-atx-motherboard-p8p67-pro-rev-3-1-
£120.27

CPU FAN
CoolerMaster Hyper TX3 Cooler LGA775/1156/1155/AM2/AM3
http://www.ebuyer.com/195684-coolermaster-hyper-tx3-cooler-lga775-1156-1155-am2-am3-rr-910-htx3-gp
£18.64

RAM
Corsair 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz x 2 (8GB)
http://www.ebuyer.com/173122-corsair-4gb-2x2gb-ddr3-1600mhz-pc3-12800-xms3-i5-memory-kit-cl9-9-9-9-24-1-65v-cmx4gx3m2a1600c9
£55.14

GFX
Sapphire HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E
http://www.ebuyer.com/271292-sapphire-hd-6870-1gb-gddr5-dvi-hdmi-displayport-pci-e-graphics-card-11179-09-20g
£145.58

HD
Seagate 1TB 3.5" Barracuda SATA-III 6Gb/s Hard Drive - 7200RPM 32MB Cache
http://www.ebuyer.com/252858-seagate-1tb-3-5-barracuda-sata-iii-6gb-s-hard-drive-7200rpm-32mb-cache-st31000524as
£45.04

OPTICAL
LiteOn iHOS104 4x BD-ROM SATA Blu-Ray Drive
http://www.ebuyer.com/172638-liteon-ihos104-4x-bd-rom-sata-blu-ray-drive-oem-black-ihos104-37
£39.99

POWER
Corsair 600W CX Series V2 PSU - 6x SATA 2x PCI-E
http://www.ebuyer.com/269259-corsair-600w-cx-series-v2-psu-6x-sata-2x-pci-e-cmpsu-600cxv2uk
£52.78

CASE
Fractal Design Core 3000 Case
http://www.ebuyer.com/270598-fractal-design-core-3000-case-fd-ca-core-3000-bl
£51.58


TOTAL = £698.51


----

A few things, I am not sure on the power supply, that may be too much? This is all on ebuyer as you can see, perhaps there is better UK sites, that are cheaper? Anything else I can shave money on? If I can get it cheaper than this, I be happy. Also what is likelyhood of these prices dropping within the next month?

Thanks


There is probably a cheaper ASRock Pro3 out there you can get that is cheaper than that motherboard and will have fine everything else. The motherboard you linked uses x8x8 when x16x4 motherboards are fine especially for someone not running a dual GPU system.

You really won't see any benefit at all from 1600 RAM, go with 8 gigs of cheaper RAM, Mushkin is a fine RAM maker I believe, though some places you can find 1600 at a steal.

You don't need 600W for a single card system. Corsair is a fine brand, and you should stick with fine brands, but 600W is a bit too much. In other words, you were right!


Hi, not sure what you mean about x8x8 and x16x4? I found this - http://www.ebuyer.com/267317-asrock-p67-pro3-se-socket-1155-8-channel-hd-audio-atx-motherboard-p67-pro3-se - seems reasonable at £73.53, as I do not intend on getting two GPUS.

Am I right that its better to spread the RAM across all 4 DIMMs, instead of say getting 1x8GB one or 2x4GB ones?

What wattage would you recommond for this setup? 500?

Thanks
Whats the altitude?
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
October 07 2011 10:49 GMT
#12640
On October 07 2011 19:37 Chewits wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 10:34 Medrea wrote:
@Chewits

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 07 2011 09:30 Chewits wrote:
Hello all. I have not built a PC in over 10 years now. I am looking in building a good gaming machine, that can run SC2 at max, Dota 2 and some cool FPS games like Rage etc. I am selling my 3 year old iMac to cover alot of the cost. I am in no hurry to purchase parts and have no problem in buying some parts and waiting on others. Would like to be up and running with 1-2 months though


What is your budget?

Ideally do not want to spend anymore than £700. May be flex in this.

What is your resolution?

Current monitor is 1680 x 1050. However I would like to be able to plug this up to my Samsung 40" TV via HDMI which is 1920 x 1080.

What are you using it for?

Mostly gaming. However I would like to have possiblity to watch Blu Ray movies on my TV. I also would like to do some streaming of games etc.

What is your upgrade cycle?

I am not intending to upgrade for quite some time after this build. I would like it to last, or at least only have a small part need to be upgraded.

When do you plan on building it?

Within the next 1-2 months.

Do you plan on overclocking?

I think I would like to overclock, if there is significant advantages. However if it is too expensive, I dont have too.

Do you need an Operating System?

No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Probably not.

Where are you buying your parts from?

I am from the UK. The expensive UK

-----------

Ok so, I am new and this is some of my first bit of research. This is what I have got so far;

CPU
Intel Core i5 2500K 3.3GHz Socket 1155 6MB Cache
http://www.ebuyer.com/251596-intel-core-i5-2500k-3-3ghz-socket-1155-6mb-cache-retail-boxed-processor-bx80623i52500k
£169.49

M/B
Asus P8P67 PRO REV 3.1 Socket 1155 8 Channel Audio ATX Motherboard
http://www.ebuyer.com/282891-asus-p8p67-pro-rev-3-1-socket-1155-8-channel-audio-atx-motherboard-p8p67-pro-rev-3-1-
£120.27

CPU FAN
CoolerMaster Hyper TX3 Cooler LGA775/1156/1155/AM2/AM3
http://www.ebuyer.com/195684-coolermaster-hyper-tx3-cooler-lga775-1156-1155-am2-am3-rr-910-htx3-gp
£18.64

RAM
Corsair 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz x 2 (8GB)
http://www.ebuyer.com/173122-corsair-4gb-2x2gb-ddr3-1600mhz-pc3-12800-xms3-i5-memory-kit-cl9-9-9-9-24-1-65v-cmx4gx3m2a1600c9
£55.14

GFX
Sapphire HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 DVI HDMI DisplayPort PCI-E
http://www.ebuyer.com/271292-sapphire-hd-6870-1gb-gddr5-dvi-hdmi-displayport-pci-e-graphics-card-11179-09-20g
£145.58

HD
Seagate 1TB 3.5" Barracuda SATA-III 6Gb/s Hard Drive - 7200RPM 32MB Cache
http://www.ebuyer.com/252858-seagate-1tb-3-5-barracuda-sata-iii-6gb-s-hard-drive-7200rpm-32mb-cache-st31000524as
£45.04

OPTICAL
LiteOn iHOS104 4x BD-ROM SATA Blu-Ray Drive
http://www.ebuyer.com/172638-liteon-ihos104-4x-bd-rom-sata-blu-ray-drive-oem-black-ihos104-37
£39.99

POWER
Corsair 600W CX Series V2 PSU - 6x SATA 2x PCI-E
http://www.ebuyer.com/269259-corsair-600w-cx-series-v2-psu-6x-sata-2x-pci-e-cmpsu-600cxv2uk
£52.78

CASE
Fractal Design Core 3000 Case
http://www.ebuyer.com/270598-fractal-design-core-3000-case-fd-ca-core-3000-bl
£51.58


TOTAL = £698.51


----

A few things, I am not sure on the power supply, that may be too much? This is all on ebuyer as you can see, perhaps there is better UK sites, that are cheaper? Anything else I can shave money on? If I can get it cheaper than this, I be happy. Also what is likelyhood of these prices dropping within the next month?

Thanks


There is probably a cheaper ASRock Pro3 out there you can get that is cheaper than that motherboard and will have fine everything else. The motherboard you linked uses x8x8 when x16x4 motherboards are fine especially for someone not running a dual GPU system.

You really won't see any benefit at all from 1600 RAM, go with 8 gigs of cheaper RAM, Mushkin is a fine RAM maker I believe, though some places you can find 1600 at a steal.

You don't need 600W for a single card system. Corsair is a fine brand, and you should stick with fine brands, but 600W is a bit too much. In other words, you were right!


Hi, not sure what you mean about x8x8 and x16x4?


It refers to the bandwidth available to the PCI-E slots. The higher the value, the more bandwidth a slot has. Typically, only the graphics card requires high bandwidth, while other cards don't need nearly as much (if you even have anything other than the graphics card to plug in, most people don't). So if you're going for a single graphics card setup, it's best to get a motherboard that puts as much of the bandwidth to a single slot, the "x16". For dual GPU setups, you'll want both slots to have reasonably high bandwidth, which makes the x8 + x8 option better.
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