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On June 27 2011 20:10 Womwomwom wrote:
If its a boxed CPU, it will come with an Intel CPU cooler as simple as that. If you're overclocking, yes you should probably buy a CPU cooler, like a Coolermaster Hyper 212+ or Xigmatek Gaia, while you are at it.
Not overclocking, just standard i5-2500k new from the box. What temps should I expect running near max with just the stock cooler?
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My personal opinion on RAM.
If the computer is under $800 get 2x2gb, if it is over $800, get the 2x4gb, it's just scaling to the computer. It's an extra ~$30 which starts becoming less and less significant as the price goes up. As for memory speed, 1066 vs 1333 vs 1600. I'd say 1600 if it's only like $3-$5 more than the 1333 which it is in most cases up here in canada. I would never go higher than 1600 since prices start spiking after that and I wouldn't get 1066 since it's mainly the budget RAM which I feel tends to come DoA far too often.
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On June 27 2011 20:26 EtherealDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 20:10 Womwomwom wrote:
If its a boxed CPU, it will come with an Intel CPU cooler as simple as that. If you're overclocking, yes you should probably buy a CPU cooler, like a Coolermaster Hyper 212+ or Xigmatek Gaia, while you are at it.
Not overclocking, just standard i5-2500k new from the box. What temps should I expect running near max with just the stock cooler?
Usually mid 70s at max depending of course on your ambient temperature case cooling etc. It shouldn't ever reach really dangerous levels which is around 90+ though so no worries on stock as long as you don't OC.
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On June 27 2011 20:26 EtherealDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 20:10 Womwomwom wrote:
If its a boxed CPU, it will come with an Intel CPU cooler as simple as that. If you're overclocking, yes you should probably buy a CPU cooler, like a Coolermaster Hyper 212+ or Xigmatek Gaia, while you are at it.
Not overclocking, just standard i5-2500k new from the box. What temps should I expect running near max with just the stock cooler?
Assuming your ambient temperature is around 20-25 and you're running stock clocks, you're looking at 35-40 degrees for idle and high 60s for load. Basically nothing to worry about.
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On June 27 2011 20:31 Womwomwom wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2011 20:26 EtherealDeath wrote:On June 27 2011 20:10 Womwomwom wrote:
If its a boxed CPU, it will come with an Intel CPU cooler as simple as that. If you're overclocking, yes you should probably buy a CPU cooler, like a Coolermaster Hyper 212+ or Xigmatek Gaia, while you are at it.
Not overclocking, just standard i5-2500k new from the box. What temps should I expect running near max with just the stock cooler? Assuming your ambient temperature is around 20-25 and you're running stock clocks, you're looking at 35-40 degrees for idle and high 60s for load. Basically nothing to worry about.
Cool. Though - this might bring my ambient temp up in the case... I will be running two 6870s as well (mid size tower - Rosewill Challenger). I probably won't OC them - if I OC them at all, it certainly won't exceed 920 mhz.... but I don't think I will OC them. There are 3 fans in the case, 120mm front, 140mm top, and 120mm rear, and I will probably put in a 120mm side fan as well.
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If you're fine with that resolution, go ahead in my experience HP make some very nice monitors.
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yo thanks, with euro i think that is ok pricewise~
do i ve to look out for something when installing or is it just "plug in, put win7 cd in, install win7, be happy"?
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Because the Sandy Bridge IMC doesn't play nice with RAM clocks above 1333 anyways, and with Multi based OCing on SB architecture CPU's, you don't have a need for memory specced above 1333.
And if that didn't make any sense to you, it proves and guarantees you wouldn't see any major benefit from the faster RAM.
Hell, my RAM is rated up to 2000mhz, and I'm only running it at 1600, just because it isn't worth the extra beating on my system.
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@Skyr/Myrmidon/Lmui
Yeah, i ended up buying the dell earlier today. The ibuypower customer support reviews form newegg were just too scary to me cuz im such a pussy ass bitch when it comes to dealing with electronics, and the assembly system was interesting and very cheap but i really wouldnt have a clue on what to buy and what is compatible, and i think asking you guys for general tips is good but to build the computer idk how much time any of you would srsly put into it other than off the top of your head. And once something goes wrong i dont want to deal with warranty/part mix and matching.
one thing i wished b4 was that people who are in the know about tech on the forum here would just put together a thread with like 3 different computer set ups, one for low/med/high, with all the parts listed that could really be well thought out and new parts could be mixed and matched based on sales or user preference, rather than what i feel like is now just someone here scanning newegg/generic online electronic retailer for deals, pulls up like 5 items that seem good and posts them as "advice"
this is different from all the spoilers at the front page, becuz you still need to understand computers to make heads or tails of that shit, even if any of you say its written in laymen terms--i am a layman, i do not understand, whereas if you had a list of like "here's the best computer for 1000$ that is updated every 7 days based on what we all think and can be assembled by these folks for 50$" i would have probably been inclined to buy that, anyways too late now but just a thought for future reference
does anyone know a good deal for insuring the computer from like theft and stuff? i was looking at allstate, but i thought maybe some of you might know a computer oriented insurer if that exists...
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On June 28 2011 02:59 yourteam wrote:
@Skyr/Myrmidon/Lmui
Yeah, i ended up buying the dell earlier today. The ibuypower customer support reviews form newegg were just too scary to me cuz im such a pussy ass bitch when it comes to dealing with electronics, and the assembly system was interesting and very cheap but i really wouldnt have a clue on what to buy and what is compatible, and i think asking you guys for general tips is good but to build the computer idk how much time any of you would srsly put into it other than off the top of your head. And once something goes wrong i dont want to deal with warranty/part mix and matching.
one thing i wished b4 was that people who are in the know about tech on the forum here would just put together a thread with like 3 different computer set ups, one for low/med/high, with all the parts listed that could really be well thought out and new parts could be mixed and matched based on sales or user preference, rather than what i feel like is now just someone here scanning newegg/generic online electronic retailer for deals, pulls up like 5 items that seem good and posts them as "advice"
this is different from all the spoilers at the front page, becuz you still need to understand computers to make heads or tails of that shit, even if any of you say its written in laymen terms--i am a layman, i do not understand, whereas if you had a list of like "here's the best computer for 1000$ that is updated every 7 days based on what we all think and can be assembled by these folks for 50$" i would have probably been inclined to buy that, anyways too late now but just a thought for future reference
does anyone know a good deal for insuring the computer from like theft and stuff? i was looking at allstate, but i thought maybe some of you might know a computer oriented insurer if that exists...
It's in the links in the first page.
http://www.hardware-revolution.com/
Very up to date site with exactly what you're looking for. But SkyR usually has better builds, since he gets to update with every sale, while the author of that site doesn't go for sales. Too difficult to keep track of and update the site everytime it changes.
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1. Prices fluctuate way too much.
2. There are a lot of buyers in different countries so a different list for USA, Canada, Europe (and then UK buyers may like ebuyer or scan, while some just use hardwareversand, or others prefer local e-tailers), Autralia, and more?
3. People have wildly different needs and priorities with regards to computer performance, even at given price points. The best computer for $1000 for one person may be very different than the best computer for $1000 for somebody else, though granted pretty much everybody is going to use Sandy Bridge these days.
4. If you're looking for generic one-size-fits-all advice, there are already websites that do that.
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Me and Myrmidon are forum regulars who has helped many configure and optimize their configuration for their needs and wants. There has yet to be one complaint on these forums regarding a build that was put together here by us or another forum regular.
I can't blame you for thinking people just scan through retailers and put little effort into helping you as that's what essentially Lmui did. You can look through the last one hundred pages of this thread or just search some names and you'll quickly distinguish those who put effort into helping and those who just scan through retailers.
Putting together a thread with recommended configurations isn't feasible because the world doesn't revolve around America. There are people in Canada, Europe, Australia, and other parts of the world. Newegg isn't the only place where you can purchase components either, there are hundreds and thousands of retailers. Some are restricted or prefer to purchase from a select retailer while others have no preference. Each individuals wants and needs vary greatly in terms of budget, needing an operating system or not, overclocking or not, silent or not, resolution played at, settings played at, design or gaming, etc.
If you're looking for baseline builds, Tomshardware and several other websites already offer that.
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Why wouldn't be feasible? Granted it wouldn't gain any traction because people would ask for the same "build me a computer, I can't be bothered reading the past 5 pages or even the OP" posts but if they use it as a baseline, it makes it easy to pull out deals and check for stuff. If they don't want to save $50, they can go a buy the suggested parts straight away.
The deals may change but the parts remain identically the same. If you dig through the last 5 pages, you'll find a billion i5 + 6850/6870/560 Ti builds that are basically exactly the same.
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Yeah, I gave up on trying to post full builds. skyR and Myrm beat me to the punch every time, and usually beat me by a few dollars while they're at it. I just stick to troubleshooting and slapping down computer destroying advice now mostly.
But yeah, seems like an FAQ thread with some builds in it would be the way to go about it, but I sincerely doubt it would get read any more than say... the tech support guidelines, or the OP of this thread.
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Hi,
I posted a while back trying to figure out a build for my new computer but unfortunately I ran into some money issues and some of the hardware I was going to use ended up being stolen. So now I have to start from scratch. The short of it is that I need everything except harddrives and my budget is low (450-475$ tax in). I live in Canada. My primary focus is for gaming but I also do some other things that would take advantage of quadcore capabilities. Here is what I am considering as a rough outline of my system:
cpu: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Quad Core Processor 3.2GHZ AM3 8MB Cache 125W Retail Box 112.99@ncix
gfx: EVGA GeForce GTX 550 Ti Fpb 951MHZ 1024MB 4356MHZ GDDR5 2XDVI-I Mini-HDMI PCI-E Video Card 119.99@ncix or
EVGA GeForce GTS 450 Fermi 822MHZ 1024MB GDDR5 Dual DVI Mini-HDMI PCI-E DX11 Video Card 109.99@ncix
ram: Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 4GB 2X2GB PC3-10666 DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit 34.99@ncix
mobo: MSI 870-G45 ATX AM3 870 DDR3 2PCI-E16 PCI-E1 3PCI SATA2 GBLAN Audio CrossFireX Motherboard 65.99@ncix
I am not sure about the motherboard. I know that with that cpu it is easily overclockable and would definitely pursue that as an option (only moderately though, I cannot afford anything over the stock air cooling atm but definitely will expand on that when possible monetarily).
With those components (picking the more expensive gfx card) the total with tax would be ~385$. That would leave me with a psu & case to buy and an optical drive if i could squeeze it in. The optical is easy but for the case&psu I really don't know. I would prefer to purchase everything from one retailer but I would be willing to mix if the price difference was good enough. I am aware that the sales on these parts expire at the end of the month. I am trying to get a feel for parts around this price range and will adjust based on whatever advice I get and whatever new sales happen next month.
Thanks
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Posting for someone else
Budget: 700
Resolution : Not sure, dont think its too high
Overclocking: No
Buying asap
Wants hdmi port and possibly a blu ray player
For gaming and movies
also doesnt need windows
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@Aevum:
Depending on exactly what you're doing and what your priorities are, I still think an i3-2100 may be better than the Phenom II X4 955. I know you say you're doing things that will use all four cores, but even in some 3ds/Photoshop benches, the i3-2100 comes out on top. Other cases, it's still very much in the same league as the Phenom II X4 955:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=88
Keep in mind that it was the cheaper MSI AM3 motherboards (and maybe not just MSI) that tended to have the cheap VRM transistors that caught on fire / burned. 4+1 phase, no heatsink, blah blah blah. Of course, you wouldn't be able to overclock far because of the cooling too, so it might not be a huge concern. Even stock, a Phenom II X4 uses more power than say a i5-2500k at 4.6 GHz.
You know NCIX price matches, right?
@valdor4:
Core i5-2400 - $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074
AsRock H61M-VS - $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241
HIS HD 6870 - $185, $165 AMIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161349
G.Skill 2 x 2GB DDR3 RAM - $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231394
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB - $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
Lite-On BD-ROM (DVD-ROM / CD-ROM) - $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106326
Cooler Master HAF 912 - $60, $50 AMIR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233
Antec Earthwatts Green 430D - $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371034
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