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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 26 2011 19:47 GMT
#7381
http://en.inpai.com.cn/doc/enshowcont.asp?id=7972&pageid=7955

G620 benchmarked, but it doesn't talk about methodology.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
June 26 2011 19:50 GMT
#7382
Alright, guess I'm getting the intel + the DDR3 RAM. Going to be running me dry, but hell.

Also, I've been looking at that mobo. I can't for the life of me find where the hell I'd put my PSU on that thing. Maybe I'm just being stupid and completely inept as usually.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 26 2011 19:51 GMT
#7383
Xbit has a better article which I linked earlier: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/pentium-g850-g840-g620_4.html#sect0

The motherboard has a 24pin connector and 4pin connector which your power supply plugs into.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
June 26 2011 19:54 GMT
#7384
On June 27 2011 04:51 skyR wrote:
Xbit has a better article which I linked earlier: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/pentium-g850-g840-g620_4.html#sect0

The motherboard has a 24pin connector and 4pin connector which your power supply plugs into.


Yeah I see those, but I dont know where I'm going to put the clunky fucker itself. Like the actual box.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 19:55:08
June 26 2011 19:54 GMT
#7385
Why do I even try to find articles when skyR is online?

You should put together an updated reference list...

On June 27 2011 04:54 Fruscainte wrote:
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On June 27 2011 04:51 skyR wrote:
Xbit has a better article which I linked earlier: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/pentium-g850-g840-g620_4.html#sect0

The motherboard has a 24pin connector and 4pin connector which your power supply plugs into.


Yeah I see those, but I dont know where I'm going to put the clunky fucker itself. Like the actual box.


Your PSU doesn't attach to the motherboard... not physically, at least...
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
June 26 2011 20:05 GMT
#7386
On June 27 2011 04:54 JingleHell wrote:
Why do I even try to find articles when skyR is online?

You should put together an updated reference list...

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On June 27 2011 04:54 Fruscainte wrote:
On June 27 2011 04:51 skyR wrote:
Xbit has a better article which I linked earlier: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/pentium-g850-g840-g620_4.html#sect0

The motherboard has a 24pin connector and 4pin connector which your power supply plugs into.


Yeah I see those, but I dont know where I'm going to put the clunky fucker itself. Like the actual box.


Your PSU doesn't attach to the motherboard... not physically, at least...


I replaced my PSU last years ago, it attaches to the case itself, right?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 26 2011 20:12 GMT
#7387
Yes, the power supply goes inside your case and has cables connecting to the motherboard and other components.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 20:21:01
June 26 2011 20:14 GMT
#7388
On June 27 2011 05:12 skyR wrote:
Yes, the power supply goes inside your case and has cables connecting to the motherboard and other components.


Righto then.

One more question: What screwdrivers will I need? I know the obvious is going to be small Phillip Heads and shit. But am I going to need anything fancy for this? I've never replaced a mobo before, so I'm going into untested waters here.

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Damn that's a lot. I was hoping to keep it under $150, but got to do what I got to do I guess.
yourteam
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States40 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 22:02:06
June 26 2011 21:13 GMT
#7389
hi, i saw in the stickies that this is the place for nobs to ask comp qs,

so i bought an asus rog laptop and it was the suck, so now i am trying to move back to pc and to dell

The price is:$2,058.00 with monitor

Questions:
1 Will this run sc2 good? and by good i mean will it run on high settings, with high resolution with good framerates?
2 what matters more with gpus, memory or SLI/crossfire? Should i buy one gpu with large memory like 2 gb, or buy a crossfire 1gb each (im assuming ati because my nvidia was a fucking bitch to update the drivers for)?
3 any other suggestions you might have on how to change the build to make it better

any comments about why dell/alienware/corporations are expensive are not helpful, i don't know jack about computers, or how to put them together, and even if i did i can't get them mailed to me piece by piece without the parts getting stolen, so unless you want to route me to a better corp just comment on this please

if i did something ultra nobby here then i understand if i should be banned for stupidity, just thought i would ask here cuz there seems to be intelligent people and i feel like if i had asked b4 buying that asus i would have been told it was not meant for sc2

PROCESSOR Intel® Core™ i7-2600 (8MB Cache) Overclocked Turbo Boost to 3.9GHz
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64Bit, English
CHASSIS COLOR Matte Stealth Black Chassis with 875W Multi-GPU Approved Power Supply
MEMORY 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 at 1333MHz
VIDEO CARD Dual 1GB GDDR5 AMD Radeon™ HD 6870
HARD DRIVE 2TB (2x 1TB) SATA II (3Gb/s) 7,200RPM (2x 32MB Cache)
MONITOR 21.5” Alienware AW2210 OptX™ Full HD Gaming Monitor
SOUND CARD Integrated 7.1 Channel Audio
WIRELESS & BLUETOOTH 802.11n Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 2.1 EDR USB Combo Adapter
OPTICAL DRIVE Single Drive: Dual Layer Blu-ray Reader (BD-ROM, DVD±RW, CD-RW)
My Software & Accessories
ALIENFX AlienFX Color, Quasar Blue
OS CUSTOMIZATION Alienhead 3D
KEYBOARD Alienware Multi-Media Keyboard
MOUSE Alienware Optical Mouse, MG100
My Accessories
SERVICE PLAN 2 Year Basic Service Plan, DMLP
ONLINE DATA BACKUP DataSafe 2.0 Online Backup 2GB for 1 year
ALSO INCLUDED WITH YOUR SYSTEM
Alienware Aurora-R3 Alienware Aurora Desktop
COOLING OPTION Alienware™ High-Performance Liquid Cooling
Adobe Reader Software Adobe® Acrobat® Reader

Edit:
Forgot to ask: Is integrated audio useful or should i get the soundcard?
ieatpasta
Profile Joined May 2010
United States49 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 22:29:44
June 26 2011 21:52 GMT
#7390
Hey guys,

My budget is 700$ USD.
I am looking to purchase a new motherboard, PSU, CPU, and GPU and plan to overclock. My last mobo was ASUS and lasted me a longtime so I have a preference for that, unless you can recommend me something better or equivalent. I also prefer Intel and Nvidia. My resolution is 1920x1200.

I intend to use the computer for gaming: Starcraft 2, Diablo 3, and various FPS. I would prefer to be able to play on Ultra or settings smoothly.

I haven't upgraded for 5 years, but I think it should be able to last me in the next 2-3 years.

I live in the United States and shopping from newegg or fry's would be the most convienient.


I currently have:
Case: Antec P182 Gun Metal Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower
Sound: Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Pro 7.1

Currently, I've chosen:
CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W
Mobo: ASRock P67 EXTREME4 (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel
PSU: Rosewill BRONZE Series RBR1000-M 1000W
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 26 2011 22:44 GMT
#7391
@Fruscainte

Yes, that's all you need.



@yourteam

Yes, that configuration will be capable of running Starcraft II on high and all other games as well.

No offense but if you can't handle updating Nvidia drivers which are extremely easy, you're going to have headaches dealing with a multi-GPU solution such as CrossfireX since this depends totally on drivers. Some games don't support it while others are poorly optimized so your performance will be very incosinstant with two cards as opposed to one stronger card.

You want to have 2GB cards in CrossfireX if you are going to be dealing with Eyefinity but if you're buying a Dell, you most likely aren't dealing with Eyefinity. A dual GPU configuration is pointless at a resolution of 1920x1200.

What do you plan on doing with the 2x 1TB HDDs? Is this for RAID 1?

A 870w power supply is unnecessary but you probably don't have a choice in the matter with shitty Dell.

A core i7 2600 is unnecessary for gaming since games only utilize two cores and very few take advantage of four cores.

A sound card is only necessary if you have an expensive sound system. The integrated sound card is adequate for many people.



@ieatpasta

Do you already have DDR3 memory? DDR2 and DDR3 aren't interchangeable.

Do you plan on doing SLI? Even if you are, a 1000w power supply is not necessary. A 650w power supply is more than adequate for mid-range SLI.

Intel Core i5 2500k & ASUS P8P67 @ $355
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.660726

EVGA GTX 560 Ti @ $230 ($200 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130634

XFX Core Edition Pro 450w @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012
yourteam
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States40 Posts
June 26 2011 23:13 GMT
#7392
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On June 27 2011 07:44 skyR wrote:
@Fruscainte

Yes, that's all you need.



@yourteam

Yes, that configuration will be capable of running Starcraft II on high and all other games as well.

No offense but if you can't handle updating Nvidia drivers which are extremely easy, you're going to have headaches dealing with a multi-GPU solution such as CrossfireX since this depends totally on drivers. Some games don't support it while others are poorly optimized so your performance will be very incosinstant with two cards as opposed to one stronger card.

You want to have 2GB cards in CrossfireX if you are going to be dealing with Eyefinity but if you're buying a Dell, you most likely aren't dealing with Eyefinity. A dual GPU configuration is pointless at a resolution of 1920x1200.

What do you plan on doing with the 2x 1TB HDDs? Is this for RAID 1?

A 870w power supply is unnecessary but you probably don't have a choice in the matter with shitty Dell.

A core i7 2600 is unnecessary for gaming since games only utilize two cores and very few take advantage of four cores.

A sound card is only necessary if you have an expensive sound system. The integrated sound card is adequate for many people.



@ieatpasta

Do you already have DDR3 memory? DDR2 and DDR3 aren't interchangeable.

Do you plan on doing SLI? Even if you are, a 1000w power supply is not necessary. A 650w power supply is more than adequate for mid-range SLI.

Intel Core i5 2500k & ASUS P8P67 @ $355
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.660726

EVGA GTX 560 Ti @ $230 ($200 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130634

XFX Core Edition Pro 450w @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012



Thank you very much for your response.

With regards to the drivers, nvidias auto update wouldn't work with w7 so i had to port them in through vista and it was just a big hassle and annoyed the shit out of me that they wouldn't update them to format with the current OS, but i think you might still say this is "extremely easy" from your standpoint, although it was not for me and i am not offended at all by what you said.

your response there is exactly what i need to know and i wont get crossfire now becuz i have no idea what eyefinity is or anything else you said in that paragraph.

curiously, why are dual gpus useless for 1920/1200?

the hd set up was the cheapest one.

below i have pasted in their options for gpus and hds, what do you suggest?

(First time using spoiler thing not sure if this will work when i post)

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Single Video Card Options

1GB GDDR5 AMD Radeon™ HD 6870 [Included in Price]
1.25GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 560 Ti (Single) [Add $100.00 $40.00 or $2.00/month1]

2GB GDDR5 AMD Radeon™ HD 6950 [Add $150.00 $80.00 or $3.00/month1]

3GB GDDR5 NVIDIA®GeForce® GTX 590 [Add $500.00 $360.00 or $11.00/month1]

4GB GDDR5 AMD Radeon™ HD 6990 [Add $600.00 $440.00 or $14.00/month1]


Dual Video Card Options

Dual 1GB GDDR5 AMD Radeon™ HD 6870 [Add $250.00 $160.00 or $5.00/month1]

Dual 1GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 460 - SLI Enabled [Add $250.00 $160.00 or $5.00/month1]

Dual 2GB GDDR5 AMD Radeon™ HD 6950 [Add $500.00 $360.00 or $11.00/month1]


+ Show Spoiler +

Single Hard Drive

2TB SATA 6Gb/s (7,200RPM) 32MB Cache [Add $100.00 or $3.00/month1]
Alienware Recommended
256GB Solid State Drive - SATA 3Gb/s [Add $450.00 or $14.00/month1]

Raid 0, Extreme Performance Options

2TB (2x 1TB) SATA II (3Gb/s) 7,200RPM (2x 32MB Cache) [Included in Price]
512GB RAID 0 (2 x 256GB SATA 3Gb/s) Solid State Drive [Add $1,000.00 or $30.00/month1]

Raid 1+0, High Performance and Data Security Options

2TB RAID 1+0 (4 x 1TB SATA 3Gb/s) 7200 RPM [Add $300.00 or $9.00/month1]

JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 26 2011 23:26 GMT
#7393
If the automatic driver update didn't work for you, why didn't you just go to nvidia.com, goto the download driver page, click a couple of buttons, and do it that way?
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
June 26 2011 23:33 GMT
#7394
Yo guys, a quick question as the month ends and the money comes in.....

i am thinking bout getting a ssd drive but i am completly new to it and ve no clue what to take and what to look out for. i am looking for a small ssd (like 64gb) for win7 and sc2

any input on ssds is welcome, thanks~
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-26 23:41:10
June 26 2011 23:39 GMT
#7395
On June 27 2011 08:33 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
Yo guys, a quick question as the month ends and the money comes in.....

i am thinking bout getting a ssd drive but i am completly new to it and ve no clue what to take and what to look out for. i am looking for a small ssd (like 64gb) for win7 and sc2

any input on ssds is welcome, thanks~


How much you looking to spend?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441&cm_re=crucial_m4-_-20-148-441-_-Product

Is a good one.
yourteam
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States40 Posts
June 26 2011 23:45 GMT
#7396
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 27 2011 08:26 JingleHell wrote:
If the automatic driver update didn't work for you, why didn't you just go to nvidia.com, goto the download driver page, click a couple of buttons, and do it that way?


nvidia wasn't going to update the driver to work with w7, downloading it from their site or having their script program auto download it wasnt helping me, im not like making this shit up, i had to go through asus tech forum and they showed me how to take the vista drivers and change the stuff to make it work with w7 cuz tons of other people were QQ too, and i continually asked them why wouldnt nvidia just do this for me, and they were like *shrugs*

someone might ask what card i am using and i think it was 460 or 460m?, im at work so i cant check what it is, but no one else has heard of this problem? who knows maybe im crazy, the driver issue was really peripheral to the original intent of my post anyways
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 27 2011 00:00 GMT
#7397
@yourteam

That's strange that 2x 1TB HDDs is the least expensive option. But it's fine to go with the least expensive option as long as the HDD is 7200 RPM.

Either get a GTX 560 Ti or Radeon HD6950 2GB.

A multi-GPU configuration is useless for 1920x1200 because most single graphic card solutions can handle the game already at reasonably high settings at this resolution.
maxchgr
Profile Joined July 2006
United States122 Posts
June 27 2011 02:54 GMT
#7398
Hey guys,
You all helped me build this computer a few months ago:
1 x GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3 LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
1 x COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
1 x EVGA 01G-P3-1370-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
1 x SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
1 x Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80605I5760
1 x G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
1 x SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
1 x LITE-ON 24X DVD Writer Black SATA Model iHAS-324-98B
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM

I just realized I'm now going to need to be able to connect to wireless in my new apartment. I won't be able to right? I need a wireless card I think? Which one should I get?
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 03:06:30
June 27 2011 03:05 GMT
#7399
Alrighty then

So here are my current specs as of tomorrow when the parts arrive:

ATX H61 Mobo
Intel Pentium G620 2.6Ghz Dual Core
500GB 7200RPM HDD
2x2GB DDR3 RAM
450W 12V PSU
1024x768 Res monitor

I'm assuming I should focus on upgrading my monitor next, eh? I really am used to, and almost prefer smaller resolutions after playing on some widescreen monitors. Can anyone recommend me a solid monitor? Something bigger than 1280x1024, at least. But I do not by any means want to get some widescreen 16 : 9 monitor. I don't have the finances nor the preference for those.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 27 2011 03:12 GMT
#7400
You should tell us how much you are willing to spend on a new monitor. Not all 16 : 9 monitors are expensive as you make them out to be, many can be found in the range of $100 - $200.
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