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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 28 2011 02:39 GMT
#7461
On June 28 2011 11:34 Dannnnn_The_Man wrote:
So im looking to build a computer soon looking for about the $1000 range, was wondering if anyone here could help me choose a decent build. Looking for a nice looking tower aswell seeing as alot of people judge by look.

Im just looking to be able to run all my games on extreme and i might add a black magic intensity pro chip for xbox streaming later on.

Budget: $1000

I have monitors already need OS


Nobody but you knows what you like in looks, so pick your own case and let people know how much of the budget that leaves, IMO. Resolution would be good to know as well.

There should actually be some builds in that price range spread across the last few pages.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
June 28 2011 02:48 GMT
#7462
On June 28 2011 11:23 Myrmidon wrote:
Build


I'm just going to mention one thing.

If you don't do a lot of colour grading, filtering, multicam, or real time rendering you should dial back the GTX570 to a HD6870 or something.

Its the cheapest card that can do colour grading well on the GPU as well as speed up the Mercury Playback engine but if you don't really use any of these features you're going to be wasting money.
VvyzZ
Profile Joined December 2010
United States26 Posts
June 28 2011 02:51 GMT
#7463
Thanks for the great replies!

Regardless, in the future, programs may support Quick Sync. I think it'd be a good idea to get a Z68 motherboard.

Yeah, the price difference seems pretty negligible too. Z68 it is.

Are you dealing with high bitrate cameras like REDs or are you dealing with little flipcams? Are you compositing short videos? Are you doing lengthy productions with a lot of simultaneous streams?

My A-cam is a Canon 5D Mark II, my B-cam is a Canon 60D. It's all 1080p ~24fps. The videos I work on mostly range from 2 minutes to 22 minutes, although a ~90 minute doc is an imminent possibility. Re: streaming, I intend to show gameplay at 1080p plus a small PiP region of my webcam.
Jackbo
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)102 Posts
June 28 2011 02:58 GMT
#7464
Hello, I am looking to build a computer. I would like to use some parts from my old computer, such as the hard drive, dvd drive, external soundcard, monitor and speakers and other peripherals. A friend has told me that these are all things that should just be plug and play, so won't affect what parts I buy. The one stipulation is that my soundcard connects via firewire, so I should have a firewire port, but then I assume that all computers have these. I really don't know .

Aside from these, I would like to make what is essentially a new computer. I should also tell you that I know next to nothing about computers, though have a few friend who have built computers in the past who can help me out with the actual construction. That means I won't really understand a lot of technical aspects of these things

What is your budget?
Somewhere in the region of £200-300, bearing in mind the things that I already have (which I put in the first paragraph)

What is your resolution?
1440x900. This is what my monitor tells me when I open up its menu. Please tell me if this is the wrong place to find out.

What are you using it for?
The main problem I have with my current pc is that it lags on even the lowest settings in Starcraft 2. I use the computer for some audio recording and editing, but seeing as I already have the sound card, that shouldn't be much of an issue. My main goal is to be able to run Starcraft 2 on high-ish graphics and experience no lag.

What is your upgrade cycle?
I suppose about 4 years, seeing as my current PC is that age.

When do you plan on building it?
I would like to start as soon as possible.

Do you plan on overclocking?
Only if this it what is recommended, but I'm sure I'll be fine without doing so. All I want is a computer that is relatively good and can run games.

Do you need an Operating System?
No.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
I don't really understand what this entails, but I would like to keep things as simple as possible, so I'm going to say no.

Where are you buying your parts from?
I should think I will buy everything I need from the internet. I live in the UK, so for postage reasons, I would prefer to use UK based retailers. I'm afraid my knowledge of companies to buy from is nonexistant, so if anyone could suggest a good place to buy from, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks in advance!
Jack
Blisse
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada3710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-28 03:13:54
June 28 2011 03:06 GMT
#7465
Not really a build, but what are good monitors around or below $200 in Canada? I can't order online, so I'm stuck with NCIX or Canada Computers. Just looking at what options are out there... apparently I'm running a 19" and a 17" dual monitor setup, and it's really weird. Would probably give the 17" to my dad and use the 19" as a secondary if I get a new one. Or run three monitors. I have no clue what to look for in monitors though, except that Dell one for $500.

I probably want just one monitor since I'm moving out next year and I heard residences don't really have that much room, so dual monitors and bookshelf speakers will probably be pushing it.


Also, I have a water cooler I got for free, and Eco Coolit, but I'm currently using an air cooler Corsair A70. Any reason to switch? Or should I save the Eco Coolit until I upgrade my motherboard? I'm really some low end Phenom II.



@above, I'm not sure if you could play SC2 on high with a $500 budget unless you're upgrading, in which case we'll need to know your current computer specifications.

By we I mean SkyR and Myrm and Jingle. o;
There is no one like you in the universe.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-28 03:18:01
June 28 2011 03:13 GMT
#7466
On June 28 2011 11:51 VvyzZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
Are you dealing with high bitrate cameras like REDs or are you dealing with little flipcams? Are you compositing short videos? Are you doing lengthy productions with a lot of simultaneous streams?

My A-cam is a Canon 5D Mark II, my B-cam is a Canon 60D. It's all 1080p ~24fps. The videos I work on mostly range from 2 minutes to 22 minutes, although a ~90 minute doc is an imminent possibility. Re: streaming, I intend to show gameplay at 1080p plus a small PiP region of my webcam.


Yeah, don't worry about anything then. Myrmidon's build will work out fine.

I do similar stuff with a Canon 5D Mark II as a hobby and I basically work off 3.5" disks in Firewire enclosures.

Not really a build, but what are good monitors around or below $200 in Canada? I can't order online, so I'm stuck with NCIX or Canada Computers. Just looking at what options are out there... apparently I'm running a 19" and a 17" dual monitor setup, and it's really weird. Would probably give the 17" to my dad and use the 19" as a secondary if I get a new one. Or run three monitors. I have no clue what to look for in monitors though, except that Dell one for $500.

I probably want just one monitor since I'm moving out next year and I heard residences don't really have that much room, so dual monitors and bookshelf speakers will probably be pushing it.


Also, I have a water cooler I got for free, and Eco Coolit, but I'm currently using an air cooler Corsair A70. Any reason to switch? Or should I save the Eco Coolit until I upgrade my motherboard? I'm really some low end Phenom II.


All TN panel monitors (aka $200 monitors) are going to literally be the same, this isn't a joke but a reality. Not many people really bother reviewing them for this reason unless they've got something special like 1ms response times or 3D capabilities. Go into NCIX or Canada Computers and buy one that looks nice.

If you have a Corsair A70, there isn't any reason to upgrade. Heck, the Eco Coolit is probably less reliable and more noisy than the air cooler.
barneycast
Profile Joined June 2011
United States38 Posts
June 28 2011 03:13 GMT
#7467
I currently have two 4850's crossfired which I think I can sell for 80~ish each. Also willing to throw in another 100 dollars. So what is the best GPU I can get 260-300ish? I do some casting/video rendering, and I'm looking to use the GPU for another 3-4ish years, possible SLI or crossfire later on.

thanks
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-28 03:36:39
June 28 2011 03:31 GMT
#7468
@Jackbo:

You should confirm that the hard drive and DVD drive are connected through SATA and not PATA (IDE). Otherwise, you will need to get an adapter or get a replacement. Newer motherboards tend not to support the old interface. Actually, cheaper motherboards tend not to support FireWire either. To save money, the below uses a rock-bottom cheap motherboard with a cheap FireWird card so you can connect your sound card.

Also, it's possible that you may need a new power supply as well; however, this setup shouldn't take over 150W in a game so it really should be fine.

I went on the low side of the budget in case you need to add anything more. This should play SC2 on high settings well though, maybe ultra at your resolution depending on desired fps.

Pentium G620 - £53.29
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/264713

Biostar H61MH - £46.98
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/259266

Extra Value 2 x 2GB DDR3 RAM - £27.02
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/192049

XFX HD 5770 (single slot lol, yet somehow cheapest and also not loud) - £83.99
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/270545

Dynamode 3 port FireWire PCI card - £6.41
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/78455
benbrad2
Profile Joined June 2011
103 Posts
June 28 2011 04:52 GMT
#7469
Hello Its me again

I bought i3 - 2100 the other day for my budget cpu, and it kicks ass ! compared to my old legend...
amd x2 4400+....

Just out of curiosity. how much better is I5-2500 ? only for games.
I don't care if it renders or loads files faster, I just want to know game play and FPS wise.

You can give your own example like, if you get 60fps with this you'll get 70 fps or something
Any game works, I just want to have an understanding of how good my i3 - 2100 is in the market.
Whatsup
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 28 2011 04:55 GMT
#7470
Look at the various reviews of the Sandybridge processors and see for yourself:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core-i3-2120-2100_5.html#sect0
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/20

Most games only utilize two cores so there's a marginal difference between the two only due to a higher clock speed and cache.
benbrad2
Profile Joined June 2011
103 Posts
June 28 2011 04:58 GMT
#7471
awesome. I bet most people are like "QUAD core is always better than DUAL"
Just like I've always thought.... But its actually quite similar.
Definetly not worth spending additional $100 for that extra 5~6 fps in game
Whatsup
SleepTech
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States222 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-28 05:52:34
June 28 2011 05:04 GMT
#7472
So I recently bought this Thermaltake v9 BlackX case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133183&cm_re=thermaltake_v9-_-11-133-183-_-Product

It was on sale with a rebate to make the price $49.99.

I have a question about the two docking stations at the top. I have some old HDs (read OLD) from my computer I got in 2001 and my wife's computer from around the same time, 2000ish. I'm figuring that these HD's are IDE although I haven't looked at them yet. My question is, With having the HDs as IDE, does it make these two docking stations at the top useless (for these HDs)? Would I need to be like a SATA to IDE adapter and just just plug in the sata part to the top dock?

Something like this I guess:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812206002&cm_re=sata_to_ide-_-12-206-002-_-Product

Most reviews seemed good on the case, especially for the docking stations.

Next question, if I am able to hook these old HDs up to the docking bay, would it matter if they had an old Windows XP OS on it? Would my HD still boot the correct windows version? I didn't know if BIOS would have the option to boot from main drive and not drive 2.

I figured it'd be ok, but I just wanted to make sure first.

One last thing with this post, I guess a 3rd question:

Will either of these CPU fans fit in this case? My case states there is 160mm leeway and these two fans are 159mm.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

Does the 160mm clearance take into account the motherboard or would the motherboard plus either of these fans go over the clearance?
Sheldonal
Profile Joined April 2011
United States11 Posts
June 28 2011 06:07 GMT
#7473
So i'v been wanting to build a computer for awhile now but iv never really known where to go to learn what parts would be good or anything, and then i found this while lurking TL and thought it would be an awesome place to ask! Sorry if i don't answer these questions very well, im a big newb with this stuff.

What is your budget?
About $1500-$1600, $1600 being the absolute most.

What is your resolution?
My res is 1280x1024.

What are you using it for?
Gaming, movies, music, and photos pretty much. For gaming im looking to be able to play any game at atleast medium settings without frame rate issues, right now with my current computer its soo out of date i can't play any games really and huge frame rate issues with the ones i can play. For movies, i like to watch them and store them, lots of them :D. For music same as movies :D. And just storing photos.

What is your upgrade cycle?
VERY LONG lol, don't know how else to answer it :D sorry! - feel this answer is bad but i don't know how to really answer it :/

When do you plan on building it?
ASAP - have the money just don't know how to spend it properly i guess

Do you plan on overclocking?
no but thats just because i am very ignorant about it and don't know anything about it. yes i r newb/noob

Do you need an Operating System?
Yes i do - win 7

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
If budget allows. - another way of saying idk if i can add one.

Where are you buying your parts from?
I'm from USA and do not have any stores nearby that carry parts so i have to buy from newegg(i guess). If you know of a better site for US based customer i'd be thankful for the tip :D.


Extra info: Already have a monitor. No idea what type of tower i would need and do not care about looks AT ALL. Other than the monitor i have no parts bought right now. I'm looking for a full build.


Thanks to any that help me! I am very unknowledgeable about all of this stuff. I can i use a computer very well but i'v never known anything about building one hehe. Thanks again for help! Sorry if my answers are not good in some way, i can clear stuff up if needed.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 28 2011 06:43 GMT
#7474
@SleepTech

It'll for sure fit inside your case without the side panel fan but it most likely won't fit inside if you aren't willing to remove the side panel fan.

@Sheldonal

Here's a configuration that totals to $859 before mail in rebates and is capable of playing every game at reasonably high settings at 1080p (if you ever decide to upgrade your monitor which I suggest you do with the remaining part of your budget):

Intel Core i5 2400 @ $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

EVGA GTX 560 Ti -KR @ $230 ($200 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130634

Asrock H61M U3S3 @ $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236

XFX Core Edition Pro 450 @ $55 ($45 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012

GSkill 1333MHz 2x4GB @ $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424

Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $60 ($50 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB @ $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

DVD Burner @ $19
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106289

You could also add in a SSD for faster load times such as the Crucial M4 64GB for $115 if you'd like: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441

There's still quite a lot remaining in your budget so you could get an overclockable configuration instead by replacing the core i5 2400 with a core i5 2500k and the H61 motherboard with a P67 or Z68 motherboard. You got to learn some time right?

Intel Core i5 2500k @ $220
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Asrock P67 Pro3 @ $120
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230
Sheldonal
Profile Joined April 2011
United States11 Posts
June 28 2011 06:51 GMT
#7475
@skyr
Thank you for your time and the build!
SleepTech
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States222 Posts
June 28 2011 06:55 GMT
#7476
On June 28 2011 15:43 skyR wrote:
@SleepTech

It'll for sure fit inside your case without the side panel fan but it most likely won't fit inside if you aren't willing to remove the side panel fan.


There isn't a side panel fan, unless you mean the fan in the back?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
June 28 2011 07:00 GMT
#7477
I was looking at Black Edition which has a side panel fan. Your case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133183 is 8.5" in width so it will easily fit the heatsink.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
June 28 2011 14:53 GMT
#7478
So.... my budget for my desktop just went up by like $900... from the original $1000. Chinese grandparents ftw :3

So now I am fighting a losing fight to control my urge to build a sexy piece of computer engineering.

On a more practical (i think?) side, this means getting low CAS latency ram, higher speed with a mobo that supports said speed, and ... maybe getting 16 gigs for the shits and giggles of it lol.

On a perhaps less practical side, previously I was planning on getting 6870s in CF, and I was told CF/SLI has a bunch of drivers issues and stuff. So.... I suppose I could get a 590 or a 6990 lol why not.

Any general advice on higher end desktops? Doing some research into it atm as I type :O

p.s. I nearly wet myself when my budget went up. <3 Chinese grandparents.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 28 2011 14:57 GMT
#7479
590 and 6990 are still multi-GPU, they just do it on a single PCB. Driver issues can still crop up.

Faster, tighter timing RAM is very slight on the gaming benefits, just so you know. SSD is one of the better ways to spend extra money, as it will make load times shorter all the time.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 28 2011 14:58 GMT
#7480
And by "slight" gaming benefits, I mean overclocking my memory from 1333 to 1600 and going from C9 to C8 picked me up like... 20 points in 3Dmark11, if that?
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