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Nate.F
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Nate.F
918 Posts
On June 29 2011 00:54 whersmyspacebar wrote: Could you guys give me some feedback on the cooling? Do you think I should get a fan in it, since the cooling is integrated at the cpu You're looking at the i5-2500k, which also means you're looking to overclock. If you're overclocking, get an aftermarket heatsink like the Xigmatek Gaia/Cooler Master 212+, whichever's cheaper at wherever you're purchasing your components from. Both perform decently and with them you would most certainly be able to bring the 2500k to 4.5Ghz w/o problems. Edit: Woops, missed the Edit button. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On June 29 2011 00:54 whersmyspacebar wrote: Could you guys give me some feedback on the cooling? Do you think I should get a fan in it, since the cooling is integrated at the cpu Since you were worried about higher ambient temps, yes get an aftermarket CPU cooler, like the Xigmatek Gaia or Hyper 212+. Just make sure your case has clearance for a 160mm CPU cooler. | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
 ). Now I know that the 6950s are supposed to be flashable to 6970, but then the newegg reviews I read suddenly started going into the "could not flash" direction.. hmm.. Whatever will just sped $50 more for the 6970 and be happy I suppose. Still costs less than my 6870 CF config lol. | ||
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IreScath
Canada521 Posts
On June 29 2011 00:54 whersmyspacebar wrote: Could you guys give me some feedback on the cooling? Do you think I should get a fan in it, since the cooling is integrated at the cpu If you are not going to overclock you're fine with the stock cooler. Besides, if you decide later you want cooling and you dont like the temperatures.... Cooling is pretty easy to add after a build. | ||
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Nate.F
918 Posts
On June 29 2011 00:58 B00ts wrote: If you are not going to overclock you're fine with the stock cooler. Besides, if you decide later you want cooling and you dont like the temperatures.... Cooling is pretty easy to add after a build. If he wasn't going to overclock, he wouldn't have picked a processor with an unlocked multiplier(i5-2500K). In other words, if he wasn't looking to overclock, he probably could've dropped down to a i5-2300 and a H61/67 motherboard.  | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On June 29 2011 00:58 Nate.F wrote: There isn't a 100% guarantee that a 2GB 6950 can be flashed to a 6970. Or everyone would be getting those, lol. | ||
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IreScath
Canada521 Posts
On June 29 2011 00:57 EtherealDeath wrote: Hmm, well I have the budget to go from a 6950 to a 6970 (fine fine I am sticking with just one card now ). Now I know that the 6950s are supposed to be flashable to 6970, but then the newegg reviews I read suddenly started going into the "could not flash" direction.. hmm.. Whatever will just sped $50 more for the 6970 and be happy I suppose. Still costs less than my 6870 CF config lol.A good idea. Please note everyone: NOT every 6950 can be flashed to a 6970. It depends largely on how the manufacturer built there card (and how much they differ from the AMD reference). | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
And I suppose I will get a real cooling system for the cpu to OC :D:D:D:D:D | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Most of the Thermaltake TR2 RX are pretty bad too. Corsair CX430 V2 should be better, and it's cheaper too: http://www.alternate.nl/html/pcbuilder/productDetail.html?searchClass=powerSupply&artno=TN4V67&cn=1&tn=BUILDERS edit: though if you're willing to pay for the XFX Core Edition 450W, that's better Asus P8P67 LE is pretty bad and overpriced for what it is. Get the AsRock P67 Pro3, MSI P67A-C43, Gigabyte P67A-(U)D3 if you're looking for a cheaper motherboard for overclocking. https://www.alternate.nl/html/pcbuilder/productDetail.html?searchClass=mainboard&artno=GRER13&cn=1&tn=BUILDERS That GTX 550 Ti is overpriced too, since you can get a HD 6850 for about the same, and those use similar power while giving you more performance: https://www.alternate.nl/html/pcbuilder/productDetail.html?searchClass=graphicscardPCIe&artno=JCXSW3&cn=1&tn=BUILDERS | ||
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IreScath
Canada521 Posts
On June 29 2011 00:58 Nate.F wrote: If he wasn't going to overclock, he wouldn't have picked a processor with an unlocked multiplier(i5-2500K). In other words, if he wasn't looking to overclock, he probably could've dropped down to a i5-2300 and a H61/67 motherboard. He never stated he was or was not overclocking... and some consumers buy one for future overclocking as a semi-upgrade to their machine rather than buying a new one in 1ish years time. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On June 29 2011 01:03 B00ts wrote: He never stated he was or was not overclocking... and some consumers buy one for future overclocking as a semi-upgrade to their machine rather than buying a new one in 1ish years time. He did, however, say that he was worried about high ambient temps, so either way he should upgrade to a more efficient CPU cooler. Especially since a decent one can be had for so little extra money. | ||
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Dannnnn_The_Man
United States166 Posts
On June 28 2011 11:39 JingleHell wrote: Nobody but you knows what you like in looks, so pick your own case and let people know how much of the budget that leaves, IMO. Resolution would be good to know as well. There should actually be some builds in that price range spread across the last few pages. Lets say ill spend 100$ on a case so about a 900$ budget left for parts. I have 2 monitors with resolutions of 1920x1080. If i have a window in the side of my case, do you guys think that is kinda tooly? | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On June 29 2011 01:18 Dannnnn_The_Man wrote: Lets say ill spend 100$ on a case so about a 900$ budget left for parts. I have 2 monitors with resolutions of 1920x1080. If i have a window in the side of my case, do you guys think that is kinda tooly? If you're worried about what other people think about your case's looks, you're doing it wrong, IMO. If you buy one for performance, looks shouldn't matter much, and if you buy one for looks, buy one you like. | ||
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whersmyspacebar
United States220 Posts
On June 29 2011 01:03 Myrmidon wrote: @whersmyspacebar: Most of the Thermaltake TR2 RX are pretty bad too. Corsair CX430 V2 should be better, and it's cheaper too: http://www.alternate.nl/html/pcbuilder/productDetail.html?searchClass=powerSupply&artno=TN4V67&cn=1&tn=BUILDERS edit: though if you're willing to pay for the XFX Core Edition 450W, that's better Asus P8P67 LE is pretty bad and overpriced for what it is. Get the AsRock P67 Pro3, MSI P67A-C43, Gigabyte P67A-(U)D3 if you're looking for a cheaper motherboard for overclocking. https://www.alternate.nl/html/pcbuilder/productDetail.html?searchClass=mainboard&artno=GRER13&cn=1&tn=BUILDERS That GTX 550 Ti is overpriced too, since you can get a HD 6850 for about the same, and those use similar power while giving you more performance: https://www.alternate.nl/html/pcbuilder/productDetail.html?searchClass=graphicscardPCIe&artno=JCXSW3&cn=1&tn=BUILDERS Then I'll go with the XFX. I'll be honest, I didn't knew that the K meant it could be overclocked, but I don't intend to overclock it. Can I get a motherboard and cpu that is just as good for a cheaper price? If it doesn't matter that much then I'll just go with the overclock ones, perhaps I will overclock in the future. Should I add in a case-fan just for the extra cooling, or would it be overkill? On this page you can see all the case-fans they have, I have no knowledge or whatsoever on that area so I don't know whether or not I should add one in: http://www.alternate.nl/html/pcbuilder/productListing.html?searchClass=casefan&cn=1&tn=BUILDERS I'll go for the HD6850 and the AsRock motherboard then, thanks! Edit: when I change the vga, it says 450W is not enough so I think I should change it. I'll just use the XFX Core Edition 550W I guess. https://www.alternate.nl/html/pcbuilder/productDetail.html?searchClass=powerSupply&artno=TN5VX2&cn=1&tn=BUILDERS | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On June 29 2011 01:43 whersmyspacebar wrote: Then I'll go with the XFX. I'll be honest, I didn't knew that the K meant it could be overclocked, but I don't intend to overclock it. Can I get a motherboard and cpu that is just as good for a cheaper price? If it doesn't matter that much then I'll just go with the overclock ones, perhaps I will overclock in the future. Should I add in a case-fan just for the extra cooling, or would it be overkill? On this page you can see all the case-fans they have, I have no knowledge or whatsoever on that area so I don't know whether or not I should add one in: http://www.alternate.nl/html/pcbuilder/productListing.html?searchClass=casefan&cn=1&tn=BUILDERS I'll go for the HD6850 and the AsRock motherboard then, thanks! Edit: when I change the vga, it says 450W is not enough so I think I should change it. I'll just use the XFX Core Edition 550W I guess. https://www.alternate.nl/html/pcbuilder/productDetail.html?searchClass=powerSupply&artno=TN5VX2&cn=1&tn=BUILDERS Nah, the XFX 450W model is overkill. Unlike junk power supplies that advertise wattages they can't actually do (and which graphics card manufacturers assume you're using), it's actually okay. They also have to assume you're using some power-hungry CPU, which you won't be. With like an i5-2400 and HD 6850, you're going to be using no more than 200W. Yes, you can get a cheaper CPU: http://www.alternate.nl/html/pcbuilder/productDetail.html?searchClass=cpu&artno=HR5I01&cn=1&tn=BUILDERS But most of the saving will come from not needing a P67/Z68 motherboard for overclocking. Any socket 1155 motherboard will work. Get something cheaper as long as it has all the ports and features you need. Cheapest is this: http://www.alternate.nl/html/pcbuilder/productDetail.html?searchClass=mainboard&artno=GRIR18&cn=1&tn=BUILDERS With these kind of lower-power parts, you definitely shouldn't have to worry about adding extra cooling in most retail cases you will find. Reasonable ventilation and a single 120mm fan (included in most cases) is sufficient. | ||
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whersmyspacebar
United States220 Posts
On June 29 2011 02:19 Myrmidon wrote: Nah, the XFX 450W model is overkill. Unlike junk power supplies that advertise wattages they can't actually do (and which graphics card manufacturers assume you're using), it's actually okay. They also have to assume you're using some power-hungry CPU, which you won't be. With like an i5-2400 and HD 6850, you're going to be using no more than 200W. Yes, you can get a cheaper CPU: http://www.alternate.nl/html/pcbuilder/productDetail.html?searchClass=cpu&artno=HR5I01&cn=1&tn=BUILDERS But most of the saving will come from not needing a P67/Z68 motherboard for overclocking. Any socket 1155 motherboard will work. Get something cheaper as long as it has all the ports and features you need. Cheapest is this: http://www.alternate.nl/html/pcbuilder/productDetail.html?searchClass=mainboard&artno=GRIR18&cn=1&tn=BUILDERS With these kind of lower-power parts, you definitely shouldn't have to worry about adding extra cooling in most retail cases you will find. Reasonable ventilation and a single 120mm fan (included in most cases) is sufficient. Well I do have around 700e to spend, and I'm only at 640 now, so considering that there is not a huge need for a motherboard and cpu that can be overlocked, I could get some better parts for the same money I guess? I have read that there is no huge difference between the i7 and the i5 if I'm just using the pc to play sc2 so I guess going for the i5-2400 or i5-2500 should be fine, which means I can spend some more on the motherboard. I don't have any knowledge on motherboards, any other recommendations? I think I can afford one around 125-150e, if I'm going to use the i5-2400. Or, if it does not matter that much qua performance which motherboard I would buy, I could go to the i5-2600, or upgrade the vga to the HD6870. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
If you want to use up your entire budget, get an SSD instead or a nicer case. | ||
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whersmyspacebar
United States220 Posts
 Could you guys recommend me one in this list, and I think I got it all then!https://www.alternate.nl/html/pcbuilder/productListing.html?searchClass=cpufan&cn=1&tn=BUILDERS | ||
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Melancholia
United States717 Posts
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