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Cyro
United Kingdom20318 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On June 09 2013 13:35 LFHaunt wrote: Not sure what the difference is between these two, can anyone help me out. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139049 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026 And I wasnt able to make it out to microcenter again today so i guess its next Saturday. CX430M is modular, CX430 is not. Modular not really worth the money on cheap low wattage units, you're going to be using literally every cable except for maybe a strand of molex and floppy. | ||
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LFHaunt
United States102 Posts
On June 09 2013 13:46 skyR wrote: CX430M is modular, CX430 is not. Modular not really worth the money on cheap low wattage units, you're going to be using literally every cable except for maybe a strand of molex and floppy. Modular PSU mean detactable cables right? For the same price i think its better for a build not using all the cables. More space less cables better airflow. The 500W Modular is actually cheaper the then non modular Also since im gunna be delaying my purchase till next saturday i will be getting payed and so i was looking at a better MoBo, the ASRock Extreme3 but in its description it says a recommended PSU of 500W or higher, should i be worried about this with the 430 or should i get the 500? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Like I said, a low-end cheap modular unit isn't typically worth it since you're going to be using every cable except for like one or two which can easily be tucked away behind the motherboard tray or just left at the bottom of the case, both of which won't hinder airflow and not significant in space savings. And motherboards don't have recommended power supplies listed? That would be the stupidest thing ever since how would they know what I'm going to plug into the motherboard? You said you weren't going to overclock. A 400w unit like the CX430 can handle most non-overclocked single GPU configurations. If you want to deal with mail in rebates then okay, get the CX430M since it's less expensive right now as the CX430 doesn't have a mail in rebate. | ||
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LFHaunt
United States102 Posts
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KapsyL
Sweden704 Posts
On June 09 2013 00:23 KapsyL wrote: Hi i'm back again xD Haswell is out and it's time for the freakin pc already. Need a motherboard and 8GB RAM that fits with eachother and the CPU CPU will be i5 4670k CPU is K marked so I suppose i will overclock at some point in the future? Not too much though. If it matters I'm in 1920x1080 and will stream sc2. GPU will be MSI GTX 660 with Twin Frozr III Edit: Regarding budget it's something around 200 euros. preferably not more Will order it this right away ~ Bump :p | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On June 09 2013 14:55 LFHaunt wrote: Oh i forgot to mention the i5-4670K is actually the exact same price as the i5-4570 on microcenter if your going to buy a motherboard from microcenter aswell so i might aswell just go for the i5-4670K, stupid for me to not realize this earlier. with this said would i need a stronger PSU and if so how much Watts? Well then are you going to overclock? And you never mentioned what your GPU is going to be. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On June 09 2013 15:15 KapsyL wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On June 09 2013 00:23 KapsyL wrote: Hi i'm back again xD Haswell is out and it's time for the freakin pc already. Need a motherboard and 8GB RAM that fits with eachother and the CPU CPU will be i5 4670k CPU is K marked so I suppose i will overclock at some point in the future? Not too much though. If it matters I'm in 1920x1080 and will stream sc2. GPU will be MSI GTX 660 with Twin Frozr III Edit: Regarding budget it's something around 200 euros. preferably not more Will order it this right away ~ Bump :p A Radeon HD7770 or GTX 650 Ti can already max the game out at 1080p so a GTX 660 Twin Frozr III is highly unnecessary for Starcraft II just so you know.. If you aren't playing other games then you'll just be throwing money away. Any low-end Z87 board is fine if you're only looking to do a light overclock in the future and whatever 2x4gb 1600MHz @ 1.5v kit (generally you want the least expensive unless you prefer to purchase from certain manufacturers for whatever reason). | ||
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LFHaunt
United States102 Posts
As for GPU i don't plan of getting one yet, but from the little amount of information I have, i think a GT660 ( or was it the GT660Ti) is the most bang for your buck? Ill get one once i get paid in the near future. Ive also heard that the GT700 line is come out soon? maybe ill get one of these. But im not sure when it comes to GPUs any suggestions? Heres is my current build that i plan on purchacing. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/14wig I already have a NZXT case and the Win8. ps - I also have no idea when it comes to CPU coolers | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On June 09 2013 13:12 Cyro wrote: Can you run through like a 5 min part of a replay at faster speed (the speed game is played on) after x8ing the whole replay to load everything, and going back, and post fraps benchmark data and the replay? On min settings, lategame high supply etc. 2v2 rep would be nice. I'd like to benchmark against and see how relevant avx instructions are for sc2, etc. Without them i can OC much more aggressively. Last time i tried to uninstall service pack 1 it made my OS unbootable and i had to format my SSD so it's a bit awkward to test it myself You can disable AVX with this command at an admin prompt: bcdedit /set xsavedisable 1 You might want to type only "bcdedit" before and after, just to see that "xsavedisable" is created and changed in the list you'll get. Reverting it should be either setting it to 0 or using bcdedit /deletevalue xsavedisable. | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
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KapsyL
Sweden704 Posts
On June 09 2013 15:30 skyR wrote: A Radeon HD7770 or GTX 650 Ti can already max the game out at 1080p so a GTX 660 Twin Frozr III is highly unnecessary for Starcraft II just so you know.. If you aren't playing other games then you'll just be throwing money away. Any low-end Z87 board is fine if you're only looking to do a light overclock in the future and whatever 2x4gb 1600MHz @ 1.5v kit (generally you want the least expensive unless you prefer to purchase from certain manufacturers for whatever reason). Hey thanks for the tip. Im aware that 650 TI will max it its just a matter of me having to get one step ahead of my brother since he is a owner of it  Could you name a certain motherboard/RAM i could purchase? I dont really know whats good or not Buying off Komplett.se and last I checked they have limited amount of mobos i can use | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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KapsyL
Sweden704 Posts
Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600MHz 8GB CL9 579 SEK about 55 euros. would this one be good? http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=618010#extra Regarding motherboard. I want to have dual monitor later on so i guess that needs to be factored in, if it matters at all | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On June 09 2013 16:12 KapsyL wrote: Also I have a question. Doesnt RAM/MOBO/CPU have to fit togethere or something like that? maybe im badly informed rofl Yes but its really not complicated unless you make it to be. The Core i5 4670k is socket LGA1150 and all Z87 motherboards are socket LGA1150, they're made for Haswell (4th Generation Core ... the i5 4670k being one of them if you still don't understand). All motherboards use DDR3.. doesn't matter the speed or anything else, if its DDR3 then it'll work. Yes the Corsair Vengeance kit is good. It really doesn't matter what board you end up with for a maybe mild overclock in the future. Something like the MSI Z87M-G43 would work or Gigabyte Z87M-D3H or Z87P-D3, etc. You generally plug monitors into the graphics card, not the motherboard. All modern cards suitable for gaming support three to six displays. If you're not an enthusiast user or have a specific need then there is nothing to concern yourself about as everything is probably already there for you. | ||
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KapsyL
Sweden704 Posts
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FreakyDroid
Macedonia2616 Posts
On June 09 2013 16:00 KapsyL wrote: Hey thanks for the tip. Im aware that 650 TI will max it its just a matter of me having to get one step ahead of my brother since he is a owner of it Could you name a certain motherboard/RAM i could purchase? I dont really know whats good or not Buying off Komplett.se and last I checked they have limited amount of mobos i can use http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=781720#extra Or any 1150 socket motherboard to fit the CPU you got, it was the cheapest i could find on that site. For RAM, these will fit your mobo http://www.komplett.se/k/kl.aspx?filter=A02004.K245395.&bn=11209 | ||
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KapsyL
Sweden704 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On June 09 2013 15:47 LFHaunt wrote:+ Show Spoiler + I dont know anything about overclocking as of right now, I dont plan on buying a CPU cooler as of right now so i dont think i would be capable of any heavy OCing, I would like to OC as much as the stock CPU will allow me without causing any stress that might cause the CPU to have a shorter lifespan. As for GPU i don't plan of getting one yet, but from the little amount of information I have, i think a GT660 ( or was it the GT660Ti) is the most bang for your buck? Ill get one once i get paid in the near future. Ive also heard that the GT700 line is come out soon? maybe ill get one of these. But im not sure when it comes to GPUs any suggestions? Heres is my current build that i plan on purchacing. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/14wig I already have a NZXT case and the Win8. ps - I also have no idea when it comes to CPU coolers The GTX 780 and 770 have already been released, the GTX 760 is expected within the next few weeks and the rest of the series will be released later. People generally consider the ~$200 card to provide the best bang of the buck even though it may not technically be true. The term gets thrown around a lot but it really depends on multiple factors such as the game you'll be playing, and game settings / resolution. If you're getting a $200-$400 GPU then it's a good idea to get a power supply that has two PCIe connectors (typically ~500w units) so you can avoid using a molex to PCIe connector. Though a ~400w unit will still be sufficient for a non overclocked core i5 and a GTX 660 Ti. The CX500 is not a good value at $55. For $5 more, you can get a Rosewill Capstone 450 which is significantly better in every way. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On June 09 2013 15:47 LFHaunt wrote: I dont know anything about overclocking as of right now, I dont plan on buying a CPU cooler as of right now so i dont think i would be capable of any heavy OCing, I would like to OC as much as the stock CPU will allow me without causing any stress that might cause the CPU to have a shorter lifespan. As for GPU i don't plan of getting one yet, but from the little amount of information I have, i think a GT660 ( or was it the GT660Ti) is the most bang for your buck? Ill get one once i get paid in the near future. Ive also heard that the GT700 line is come out soon? maybe ill get one of these. But im not sure when it comes to GPUs any suggestions? Heres is my current build that i plan on purchacing. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/14wig I already have a NZXT case and the Win8. ps - I also have no idea when it comes to CPU coolers You shouldn't do any overclocking with the stock cooler. It is already struggling with the heat at stock speed for the fastest CPUs. If you want to buy now, choose $30 Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo or Plus. Maybe there's a deal going on. Choose Evo over Plus if they are the same price. I looked at the Microcenter site, and you should ignore everything else except something from Zalman with at least 120mm fan. If you want to buy whenever, there's large coolers from Thermalright for $50 at amazon.com. They should be about the best you can get until $70 or $80. The difference in performance between $30 and $80 isn't that much, but is enough for 100 MHz more, less noise and less worry in hot weather. You'll already get most of the improvement with those $50 coolers. | ||
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