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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
May 20 2013 10:30 GMT
#29941
On May 20 2013 17:02 Mandarinez wrote:
If my video card only has DVI out, and I have a DVI to HDMI converter such as this, will I be able to plug the HDMI into my television and have audio?

Do you have integrated graphics with your board and CPU? If your motherboard has HDMI out, you can use that for the TV if you don't need 3D games on there, only light stuff like watching videos. Windows can use multiple graphics cards nowadays, and you can use the integrated graphics despite having a graphics card installed if you force it on in the BIOS.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
May 20 2013 21:09 GMT
#29942
On May 20 2013 19:23 Blaec wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 20 2013 17:02 Mandarinez wrote:
If my video card only has DVI out, and I have a DVI to HDMI converter such as this, will I be able to plug the HDMI into my television and have audio?


No DVI does not carry Audio.

Usual solution would be getting an optical audio cable and using both DVI and optical cables. But ofc check you have optical on your computer and tv.

Edit: apparently I am wrong maybe?

Quote from Wiki "So, DVI-D devices output HDMI signals, many including audio, (examples: ATI 3000-series and NVIDIA GTX 200-series video cards),[7] and some multimedia displays input that HDMI signal, including audio, by using a DVI to HDMI adapter. Exact capabilities vary by video card specifications."

Interesting, so it could work if your gpu is even slightly recent (last 5-6 years). Also your tv might need support for a newer HDMI revision.

And as Ropid says, if you have onboard graphics then everything is much simpler.


I can confirm that I was surprised to see that a DVI -> HDMI cable from a GT 210 to an old (5+ years) Panasonic Plasma... had sound.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
May 20 2013 21:19 GMT
#29943
Hey guys, I'm just putting together a definite price for my computer parts. I wanna make sure the parts I'm getting are legit and correct for my build (click here) so I was wondering if could confirm it for me.

For the mobo I decided to go with the GA-Z77X-UD3H
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-CrossFireX-DispayPort-Motherboard-GA-Z77X-UD3H/dp/B007R21JJK

For the gpu I decided to go with the hd7770, but would like to talk to someone in private about upgrades if possible. For now, I want to make sure this is a legit hd7770 and this is the one I'm supposed to be buying.
Radeon hd7770

Thanks guys, really appreciate all the help!
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 20 2013 21:47 GMT
#29944
Yes, those are correct.

Powercolor is one of the lower tier partners for AMD. You're free to choose whichever brand you like.
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
May 20 2013 22:20 GMT
#29945
On May 21 2013 06:47 skyR wrote:
Yes, those are correct.

Powercolor is one of the lower tier partners for AMD. You're free to choose whichever brand you like.


When you say lower tier, do you mean smaller company or the product is worse quality?If the quality is worse, should I opt for a different version?
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17299 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 22:43:34
May 20 2013 22:43 GMT
#29946
Probably both. The thing you really want to look into is how good their support is / isn't.

I'M LOOKING AT YOU ASUS.

(They've had my card for just shy of 1 month.)
twitch.tv/cratonz
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
May 20 2013 22:46 GMT
#29947
I'd say try to find reviews that judge the noise. That's what I hate most about my PC, the graphics card cooler's fan, but perhaps that's just me.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
May 20 2013 22:57 GMT
#29948
Yea GPU's under high load (maybe specifically blowers?) are the only type of noise that at all bothers me
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17299 Posts
May 20 2013 23:03 GMT
#29949
Funny story.

My first build ever (I was around 15-16) I was really really concerned about temperatures, so during my build I went on Newegg and found the highest possible CFM fans for the 80 or 90mm slot size I had. Noise levels, what are those? And yeah, they ran at 100% RPM.

That thing sang like a jet.

I used the case for probably 5 years before I replaced it. It wasn't until quite some time later that I finally realized "ooooh yeah, so that's why it was so loud."
twitch.tv/cratonz
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 23:07:46
May 20 2013 23:06 GMT
#29950
Hmmm okay, I'm glad I didn't jump the gun and purchase the powercolor one. A simple search yielded the following two:

Sapphire's version:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202011
It seems like this has got a ton of good reviews and is quiet (big bonus for me).

And the HIS version:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161402
Has good reviews as well, but a couple of remarks about how it's occasionally not as quiet as expected, and it has less 5 star ratings than the sapphire version.

right now I'm leaning towards the sapphire version (the first one), any thoughts? I'm really a novice when it comes to shopping for parts so I want to do my homework before purchasing.

Noise level is definitely important to me, but I also want to make sure everything is cool. The HSF I've chosen is supposed to be really good and quiet, so hopefully I can find a quiet case as well.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17299 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-20 23:19:13
May 20 2013 23:13 GMT
#29951
Customer reviews on buy sites tend to be largely not worth listening to. Most people are just incredibly ignorant and buy the wrong thing or misuse it somehow. Anecdotal evidence is bad for obvious reasons.

If you're concerned about noise, look up reviews on sites that have controlled tests across different cards.

Generally speaking, the majority of any video card is going to do just fine. The amount of actual DOAs or early failures is hard to nail down because there isn't really a good way to get that kind of data, which is why you really want to know if the company has good customer support. It will either work and you don't care or it'll fail and you want piece of mind that they'll fix/replace it (IN A TIMELY MANNER, HELLO ASUS).

I don't know anything about PowerColor or HIS in terms of RMAs. HIS has been around for awhile, at least. I think EVGA is supposed to have really good support.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
May 20 2013 23:21 GMT
#29952
On May 21 2013 08:13 Craton wrote:
Customer reviews on buy sites tend to be largely not worth listening to. Most people are just incredibly ignorant and buy the wrong thing or misuse it somehow. Anecdotal evidence is bad for obvious reasons.

If you're concerned about noise, look up reviews on sites that have controlled tests across different cards.

Generally speaking, the majority of any video card is going to do just fine. The amount of actual DOAs or early failures is hard to nail down because there isn't really a good way to get that kind of data, which is why you really want to know if the company has good customer support. It will either work and you don't care or it'll fail and you want piece of mind that they'll fix/replace it (IN A TIMELY MANNER, HELLO ASUS).

I don't know anything about PowerColor or HIS in terms of RMAs. HIS has been around for awhile, at least. I think EVGA is supposed to have really good support.


Hmm alright, where would I go about looking up this data? I'm definitely interested in the Sapphire version. Also, you're definitely scaring me away from ASUS.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
May 20 2013 23:24 GMT
#29953
Noise level is definitely important to me, but I also want to make sure everything is cool.


They are the same thing pretty much, or at least very closely related. Noise vs Heat is a tradeoff
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 21 2013 00:10 GMT
#29954
If you're concerned about noise, you should probably consider a sound dampening case like the Fractal Design Define R4 for $90 rather than a cheap $40 case.

Both HIS and Sapphire outsources their RMA department so best of luck to you if you need an RMA with them.

If you're concerned about support. You're better off sticking with the big three (Gigabyte, MSI, ASUS) or switching to Nvidia for EVGA.
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
May 21 2013 00:26 GMT
#29955
On May 21 2013 09:10 skyR wrote:
If you're concerned about noise, you should probably consider a sound dampening case like the Fractal Design Define R4 for $90 rather than a cheap $40 case.

Both HIS and Sapphire outsources their RMA department so best of luck to you if you need an RMA with them.

If you're concerned about support. You're better off sticking with the big three (Gigabyte, MSI, ASUS) or switching to Nvidia for EVGA.


ARGH Now I'm scared about which GPU I buy. I'm going to keep searching for now, haha. Sky do you mind if I contact you later when I'm ready to buy a case?
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 21 2013 00:32 GMT
#29956
Don't mind. Feel free to message me at anytime.
aBstractx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States287 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 02:58:01
May 21 2013 02:55 GMT
#29957
googled around a bit but i didnt help myself. this might be a completely retarded question because im not familiar with raiding ssds and what not. saw a tech video of some guy hooking up like 24 ssds and it was disgustingly fast, he ripped a dvd faster than a book he dropped out of a 2 story window hit the ground. would that mean say for example getting 4 128gb ssds would be faster than getting just one 500 gb ssd?
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-21 03:07:31
May 21 2013 03:05 GMT
#29958
Technically, yes, practically, not really

Also: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-raid-benchmark,3485.html
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
aBstractx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States287 Posts
May 21 2013 03:26 GMT
#29959
On May 21 2013 12:05 Cyro wrote:
Technically, yes, practically, not really

Also: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-raid-benchmark,3485.html


thanks for the link! is there any reason to think ssd prices will drop in the future? im doing my research now on liquid cooling which is going to be my next build. currently on my second build right now and want to take the next step :D

that 250gb samsung 840 for only 150$ seems almost too good to pass up, thinking of buying 2 and then building my pc in the months to come.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
May 21 2013 03:36 GMT
#29960
im doing my research now on liquid cooling which is going to be my next build.


Why are you going liquid?
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
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