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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-01 16:37:47
February 01 2013 16:28 GMT
#27361
Really liking this build right now for a mid-range gaming pc. I was thinking about just waiting for Haswell but the deals seem to be getting pretty good:

Intel i5-3570k $189.99 (MC)
ASRock Z77-Extreme6 1155-LGA (w/ bundling discount) $49.99 (MC)
EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB $219.99 (MC) ($20 MIR)
Crucial Ballistix Sport 2x4 DDR3-1600 $39.99 (MC)
Samsung 840 250GB $140.99 (MC)
Antec Neo Eco 520W $49.99 (Newegg) ($10 MIR) -- As a side note, MC's PSU selection/deals seem to be uniformly terrible at all times. Not sure why Newegg seems to always have better prices for power, and much better selection even outside of access to Rosewill.
Cooler Master HAF912 $49.99 (Newegg)
Cooler Master Hyper 212+ $29.99 (MC) ($10 MIR)
Samsung DVD-RW SATA $17.99 (Newegg)

Total (pre-tax) $739.91
- $10 new shopper discount @ Newegg $729.91, with $40.00 in MIR on top as sugar

EDIT: For some reason I accidentally cleared after I put in CPU the first time, to explain adding error.
Malpractice.248
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States734 Posts
February 01 2013 18:45 GMT
#27362
Just wanted to say thanks for helping me build PC!!!!
Its running great!!
Only thing i havent upgraded yet is my 460gtx cyclone 768 MB....
What is the most "cost effective" upgrade for the GPU? or do i not even need to go there yet :p
I only play sc2, LoL, planetside 2. Altho, PS2 can get heavy. Would 660ti cover this?
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
February 01 2013 19:21 GMT
#27363
On February 02 2013 03:45 Malpractice.248 wrote:
Just wanted to say thanks for helping me build PC!!!!
Its running great!!
Only thing i havent upgraded yet is my 460gtx cyclone 768 MB....
What is the most "cost effective" upgrade for the GPU? or do i not even need to go there yet :p
I only play sc2, LoL, planetside 2. Altho, PS2 can get heavy. Would 660ti cover this?


I think a 7870 is the best "bang for your buck" gpu right now, but the 660Ti should perform a bit better if you want more performance than a 7870.
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
m1rk3
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada412 Posts
February 01 2013 22:41 GMT
#27364
On February 02 2013 03:45 Malpractice.248 wrote:
Just wanted to say thanks for helping me build PC!!!!
Its running great!!
Only thing i havent upgraded yet is my 460gtx cyclone 768 MB....
What is the most "cost effective" upgrade for the GPU? or do i not even need to go there yet :p
I only play sc2, LoL, planetside 2. Altho, PS2 can get heavy. Would 660ti cover this?


For the Dominion!
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
February 01 2013 23:36 GMT
#27365
On February 02 2013 03:45 Malpractice.248 wrote:
Just wanted to say thanks for helping me build PC!!!!
Its running great!!
Only thing i havent upgraded yet is my 460gtx cyclone 768 MB....
What is the most "cost effective" upgrade for the GPU? or do i not even need to go there yet :p
I only play sc2, LoL, planetside 2. Altho, PS2 can get heavy. Would 660ti cover this?


SC2 and LoL can both basically be run on a graphics card drawn on a napkin. Your 460 will max both out easily. Planetside 2 should be fine as well, though perhaps not on max settings. So honestly there's really no reason to upgrade if you want to save money.

Otherwise a 660 or 7870 would be fine. Currently I'd recommend a 660 just because they're a tad cheaper & sometimes a bit quieter. The 7870 has more overclocking potential if you overclock your GPUs though.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 06:15:02
February 02 2013 06:11 GMT
#27366
Hey, trying to upgrade a pre-built PC. Usually should do it, but I felt that it would save me loads of money over buying parts for a completely new one.

1920x1080, Gaming (SCII, LoL, Skyrim, Witcher II, maybe Crysis)

Budget $150-$180, but I can be a little flexible

Amazon preferred, since I have a $50 gift card but it will count towards my budget for Amazon only (so $180 for Amazon: $100 + $50 Gift Card; $180 for Newegg: $180)

Current specs:
CPU: i5-2500 (locked)
MOBO: Pegatron 2AB6*
GPU: GeForce 405
RAM: 6GB DDR3
HDD: 1GB
PSU: Generic*

*Will check for specifics tomorrow

Only thing I feel needs upgrading is the GPU, though I may have to get a new PSU (outside of $180 buget) as the PSU included was a generic one (might have to check, will open case tomorrow). I'm thinking HD7850 1GB, maybe the Sapphire or Gigabyte version unless the cheaper Powercolor/XFX edition is the same (I heard the cooling was worse for the XFX though).

EDIT: Case space on the inside might be a problem, but for now, act as if there's enough space (the case looks big enough from the outside).
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17301 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 06:43:20
February 02 2013 06:19 GMT
#27367
For the PSU you'll want to find out the amperage on each of the rails. If you get the model # (normally on the side of back of the PSU), you should be able to look it all up. Normally that info is on the same label as the model #, though.

--

Question for myself:

Is it correct to say that I should opt for 7970s rather than a 7970 Ghz Editions if I plan to do my own overclocking?
twitch.tv/cratonz
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
February 02 2013 07:27 GMT
#27368
On February 02 2013 15:19 Craton wrote:
For the PSU you'll want to find out the amperage on each of the rails. If you get the model # (normally on the side of back of the PSU), you should be able to look it all up. Normally that info is on the same label as the model #, though.

--

Question for myself:

Is it correct to say that I should opt for 7970s rather than a 7970 Ghz Editions if I plan to do my own overclocking?

As long as the cooling design is ok binning shouldn't be an issue, so yes.
Throw off those chains of reason, and your prison disappears. | Check your posting frequency timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/post_activity_img.php
Coil1
Profile Joined January 2013
128 Posts
February 02 2013 13:42 GMT
#27369
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 22 2013 03:33 MisterFred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 01:41 Coil1 wrote:
What is your budget?
800$-1000$
+ Show Spoiler +

What is your resolution?
1600x900

What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming. I don't do photoshop or similar things. Streaming is a possibility but not a concern.

What is your upgrade cycle?
3-4 years

When do you plan on building it?
I plan to order the parts as soon as the list is finalized.

Do you plan on overclocking?
No

Do you need an Operating System?
No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg but this is mostly because I'm not sure what other good hardware sites are out there. If there's other stores you guy recommend I'm all for it.

I'd like to thank you all in advance for this. I've been stuck on this horrible little mini-computer for a while now and it'll feel good to have a good machine again.



i5-3470 ($190)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=72279&vpn=BX80637I53470&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1338

MSI B75 mATX mobo ($70)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75732&vpn=B75MA-P45&manufacture=MSI/MicroStar

2x4gb 1600mhz RAM ($39)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74758&vpn=PV38G160C9K&manufacture=Patriot

HIS 7870 ($230, $20 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161404

Bit Fenix Outlaw Case ($48)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63255&vpn=BFC-OLW-100-KKN1-RP&manufacture=BitFenix&promoid=1395

XFX Pro 550w ($64, $10 rebate)

Samsung 840 120gb SSD ($100)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=77210&vpn=MZ-7TD120BW&manufacture=Samsung Memory & Storage&promoid=1338

Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD ($90) - the 1TB version is $20 less.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=66010&vpn=ST2000DM001&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1338

DVD-burner ($16)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151256

Total: $847, not counting rebates or potential tax. Note that the video card might be a bit overpowered for your resolution, not that there's anything wrong with that.

(Adding the build for reference)

Ok, I got the parts a couple days ago and assembled it yesterday. The problem I'm having is that it will not run with both sticks of RAM; only 1. What happens is the computer will turn on for a little bit and then immediately turn off.
I'm not really sure what's the specific thing causing the problem here.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 13:53:54
February 02 2013 13:51 GMT
#27370
On February 02 2013 22:42 Coil1 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 22 2013 03:33 MisterFred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 01:41 Coil1 wrote:
What is your budget?
800$-1000$
+ Show Spoiler +

What is your resolution?
1600x900

What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming. I don't do photoshop or similar things. Streaming is a possibility but not a concern.

What is your upgrade cycle?
3-4 years

When do you plan on building it?
I plan to order the parts as soon as the list is finalized.

Do you plan on overclocking?
No

Do you need an Operating System?
No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg but this is mostly because I'm not sure what other good hardware sites are out there. If there's other stores you guy recommend I'm all for it.

I'd like to thank you all in advance for this. I've been stuck on this horrible little mini-computer for a while now and it'll feel good to have a good machine again.



i5-3470 ($190)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=72279&vpn=BX80637I53470&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1338

MSI B75 mATX mobo ($70)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75732&vpn=B75MA-P45&manufacture=MSI/MicroStar

2x4gb 1600mhz RAM ($39)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74758&vpn=PV38G160C9K&manufacture=Patriot

HIS 7870 ($230, $20 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161404

Bit Fenix Outlaw Case ($48)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63255&vpn=BFC-OLW-100-KKN1-RP&manufacture=BitFenix&promoid=1395

XFX Pro 550w ($64, $10 rebate)

Samsung 840 120gb SSD ($100)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=77210&vpn=MZ-7TD120BW&manufacture=Samsung Memory & Storage&promoid=1338

Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD ($90) - the 1TB version is $20 less.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=66010&vpn=ST2000DM001&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1338

DVD-burner ($16)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151256

Total: $847, not counting rebates or potential tax. Note that the video card might be a bit overpowered for your resolution, not that there's anything wrong with that.

(Adding the build for reference)

Ok, I got the parts a couple days ago and assembled it yesterday. The problem I'm having is that it will not run with both sticks of RAM; only 1. What happens is the computer will turn on for a little bit and then immediately turn off.
I'm not really sure what's the specific thing causing the problem here.

Slots 1 and 3 is where you put the RAM Right?

The Blue Slots
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20342 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 14:18:50
February 02 2013 14:07 GMT
#27371
Oops didnt read enough
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Coil1
Profile Joined January 2013
128 Posts
February 02 2013 14:07 GMT
#27372
On February 02 2013 22:51 iTzSnypah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 22:42 Coil1 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 22 2013 03:33 MisterFred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 01:41 Coil1 wrote:
What is your budget?
800$-1000$
+ Show Spoiler +

What is your resolution?
1600x900

What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming. I don't do photoshop or similar things. Streaming is a possibility but not a concern.

What is your upgrade cycle?
3-4 years

When do you plan on building it?
I plan to order the parts as soon as the list is finalized.

Do you plan on overclocking?
No

Do you need an Operating System?
No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg but this is mostly because I'm not sure what other good hardware sites are out there. If there's other stores you guy recommend I'm all for it.

I'd like to thank you all in advance for this. I've been stuck on this horrible little mini-computer for a while now and it'll feel good to have a good machine again.



i5-3470 ($190)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=72279&vpn=BX80637I53470&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1338

MSI B75 mATX mobo ($70)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75732&vpn=B75MA-P45&manufacture=MSI/MicroStar

2x4gb 1600mhz RAM ($39)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74758&vpn=PV38G160C9K&manufacture=Patriot

HIS 7870 ($230, $20 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161404

Bit Fenix Outlaw Case ($48)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63255&vpn=BFC-OLW-100-KKN1-RP&manufacture=BitFenix&promoid=1395

XFX Pro 550w ($64, $10 rebate)

Samsung 840 120gb SSD ($100)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=77210&vpn=MZ-7TD120BW&manufacture=Samsung Memory & Storage&promoid=1338

Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD ($90) - the 1TB version is $20 less.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=66010&vpn=ST2000DM001&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1338

DVD-burner ($16)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151256

Total: $847, not counting rebates or potential tax. Note that the video card might be a bit overpowered for your resolution, not that there's anything wrong with that.

(Adding the build for reference)

Ok, I got the parts a couple days ago and assembled it yesterday. The problem I'm having is that it will not run with both sticks of RAM; only 1. What happens is the computer will turn on for a little bit and then immediately turn off.
I'm not really sure what's the specific thing causing the problem here.

Slots 1 and 3 is where you put the RAM Right?

The Blue Slots

Yeah, I checked and rechecked the motherboard and RAM manuals. The RAM is in the blue slots.

iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
February 02 2013 14:15 GMT
#27373
On February 02 2013 23:07 Coil1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2013 22:51 iTzSnypah wrote:
On February 02 2013 22:42 Coil1 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 22 2013 03:33 MisterFred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 01:41 Coil1 wrote:
What is your budget?
800$-1000$
+ Show Spoiler +

What is your resolution?
1600x900

What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming. I don't do photoshop or similar things. Streaming is a possibility but not a concern.

What is your upgrade cycle?
3-4 years

When do you plan on building it?
I plan to order the parts as soon as the list is finalized.

Do you plan on overclocking?
No

Do you need an Operating System?
No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg but this is mostly because I'm not sure what other good hardware sites are out there. If there's other stores you guy recommend I'm all for it.

I'd like to thank you all in advance for this. I've been stuck on this horrible little mini-computer for a while now and it'll feel good to have a good machine again.



i5-3470 ($190)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=72279&vpn=BX80637I53470&manufacture=Intel&promoid=1338

MSI B75 mATX mobo ($70)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=75732&vpn=B75MA-P45&manufacture=MSI/MicroStar

2x4gb 1600mhz RAM ($39)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74758&vpn=PV38G160C9K&manufacture=Patriot

HIS 7870 ($230, $20 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161404

Bit Fenix Outlaw Case ($48)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63255&vpn=BFC-OLW-100-KKN1-RP&manufacture=BitFenix&promoid=1395

XFX Pro 550w ($64, $10 rebate)

Samsung 840 120gb SSD ($100)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=77210&vpn=MZ-7TD120BW&manufacture=Samsung Memory & Storage&promoid=1338

Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD ($90) - the 1TB version is $20 less.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=66010&vpn=ST2000DM001&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1338

DVD-burner ($16)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151256

Total: $847, not counting rebates or potential tax. Note that the video card might be a bit overpowered for your resolution, not that there's anything wrong with that.

(Adding the build for reference)

Ok, I got the parts a couple days ago and assembled it yesterday. The problem I'm having is that it will not run with both sticks of RAM; only 1. What happens is the computer will turn on for a little bit and then immediately turn off.
I'm not really sure what's the specific thing causing the problem here.

Slots 1 and 3 is where you put the RAM Right?

The Blue Slots

Yeah, I checked and rechecked the motherboard and RAM manuals. The RAM is in the blue slots.


You stated the computer works with 1 Stick of RAM in, does it matter which stick of RAM is used?
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Coil1
Profile Joined January 2013
128 Posts
February 02 2013 14:33 GMT
#27374
No
Eskiya23
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands105 Posts
February 02 2013 15:13 GMT
#27375
Hi guys, recently my nVidia gts8800 broke. It would barely run Sc2, lags on 200/200 supply battles . I got quite tired, and the system is 5 years old so I made a shopping list. Any comments/tips/advice is welcome.

+ Show Spoiler +
MSI R7950 Twin Frozr 3GD5 V2
Retail, DVI, HDMI, 2x Mini-DP, CrossFireX

Crucial CT128M4SSD2
SATA 600, RealSSD M4, TRIM, ECC

GIGABYTE GA-Z77P-D3 (rev. 1.1)
RAID, Gb-LAN, Sound, ATX

Intel® Core™ i7-3770K
Boxed, FC-LGA4, "Ivy Bridge"

Kingston HyperX 8 GB DDR3-1600 Kit
KHX1600C9D3K2/8G, Genesis


Wisdom. Judgement. Execution. Stream: twitch.tv/eskiyasc2 Twitter: @EskiyaSC
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
February 02 2013 16:02 GMT
#27376
On February 03 2013 00:13 Eskiya23 wrote:
Hi guys, recently my nVidia gts8800 broke. It would barely run Sc2, lags on 200/200 supply battles . I got quite tired, and the system is 5 years old so I made a shopping list. Any comments/tips/advice is welcome.

+ Show Spoiler +
MSI R7950 Twin Frozr 3GD5 V2
Retail, DVI, HDMI, 2x Mini-DP, CrossFireX

Crucial CT128M4SSD2
SATA 600, RealSSD M4, TRIM, ECC

GIGABYTE GA-Z77P-D3 (rev. 1.1)
RAID, Gb-LAN, Sound, ATX

Intel® Core™ i7-3770K
Boxed, FC-LGA4, "Ivy Bridge"

Kingston HyperX 8 GB DDR3-1600 Kit
KHX1600C9D3K2/8G, Genesis




What is your goal? (as in what are you using the system for) cause some of those items could potentially be useless.
RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
February 02 2013 20:07 GMT
#27377
Okay, so here's some pictures to see if the GPU will fit/if the PSU is sufficient.

Model is Bestec ATX0300D5WC. http://www.censuspc.com/300W-ATX0300D5WC-ATX-Power-Supply-for-HP-Pavilion-P6330F--HP-P6210F--HP-585008-001-Model--ATX0300D5WC-pr-11669.html

Seems like there's ample space for the 8"x4" card, but the problem is the PSU. Any ~$30-$50 PSUs recommended?

Rest of build:
CPU: i5-2500 (locked)
MOBO: Pegatron 2AB6
RAM: 6GB DDR3
HDD: 1GB
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 20:18:13
February 02 2013 20:17 GMT
#27378
On February 03 2013 05:07 RiceAgainst wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Okay, so here's some pictures to see if the GPU will fit/if the PSU is sufficient.

Model is Bestec ATX0300D5WC. http://www.censuspc.com/300W-ATX0300D5WC-ATX-Power-Supply-for-HP-Pavilion-P6330F--HP-P6210F--HP-585008-001-Model--ATX0300D5WC-pr-11669.html

Seems like there's ample space for the 8"x4" card, but the problem is the PSU. Any ~$30-$50 PSUs recommended?

Rest of build:
CPU: i5-2500 (locked)
MOBO: Pegatron 2AB6
RAM: 6GB DDR3
HDD: 1GB


Buy this ASAP:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030

Antec Neo Eco 520C for $40 free shipping after promo code, before $10 MIR.

edit: case airflow and layout may not really be designed for 100W or so extra from a graphics card, but it should most likely be okay. Just test the system when you get the parts in.
RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
February 02 2013 20:19 GMT
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On February 03 2013 05:17 Myrmidon wrote:
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Okay, so here's some pictures to see if the GPU will fit/if the PSU is sufficient.

Model is Bestec ATX0300D5WC. http://www.censuspc.com/300W-ATX0300D5WC-ATX-Power-Supply-for-HP-Pavilion-P6330F--HP-P6210F--HP-585008-001-Model--ATX0300D5WC-pr-11669.html

Seems like there's ample space for the 8"x4" card, but the problem is the PSU. Any ~$30-$50 PSUs recommended?

Rest of build:
CPU: i5-2500 (locked)
MOBO: Pegatron 2AB6
RAM: 6GB DDR3
HDD: 1GB


Buy this ASAP:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371030

Antec Neo Eco 520C for $40 free shipping after promo code, before $10 MIR.

edit: case airflow and layout may not really be designed for 100W or so extra from a graphics card, but it should most likely be okay. Just test the system when you get the parts in.


Okay, sounds good. Size might be a bit too big though, lemme check.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
February 02 2013 20:34 GMT
#27380
The Bestec you linked is a ATX-size PSU, looks like the standard 140mm depth as well—retail ATX power supplies are the same height and width to fit the same screw holes, but they are often deeper to allow for more electronics and/or a modular connector board. Neo Eco (Seasonic S12II) is that size and is still only 140mm deep into the case.

In theory something could match the screw holes but interfere on the inside because of extra depth, say with an optical drive, on a lot of OEM desktop layouts.
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