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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
July 05 2009 04:17 GMT
#81
On July 05 2009 12:29 Daniri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 10:00 FrozenArbiter wrote:
LilClinkin, War3 mapsizes and replay sizes are *almost identical to SC*.



WC3 maps are a full MB bigger than SC maps. Replay sizes are similar, but that's because WC3 reps don't include the map.


Only UMS maps get large in WC3 because of all the things you can alter.

Just Melee/Tournament maps are barely bigger.
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Daniri
Profile Joined May 2007
387 Posts
July 05 2009 04:20 GMT
#82
On July 05 2009 13:01 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 12:29 Daniri wrote:
On July 05 2009 10:00 FrozenArbiter wrote:
LilClinkin, War3 mapsizes and replay sizes are *almost identical to SC*.



WC3 maps are a full MB bigger than SC maps. Replay sizes are similar, but that's because WC3 reps don't include the map.

c:\spel\Warcraft III\Maps\Frozen Throne\(4)CentaurGrove.w3x
Size: 177 KB

C:\spel\Starcraft\Maps\BroodWar\Ladder\(6)Medusa.scx
Size: 155 kb

WC3 maps are only slightly bigger than SC maps unless they have extensive triggers, I'm pretty sure. The smallest map in the Frozen Throne folder is 65 KB (a 4 player map).
The smallest map in the BroodWar folder is 65 kb (a 2 player map).


I stand corrected, only looked at the NGL maps. But those are still a full MB bigger and don't do anything more special than the Blizzard ones than advertise their names.
"you guys are silly lol thats why i hate you people" berserkboar
SoleSteeler
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada5472 Posts
July 05 2009 04:22 GMT
#83
On July 05 2009 13:20 Daniri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 13:01 FrozenArbiter wrote:
On July 05 2009 12:29 Daniri wrote:
On July 05 2009 10:00 FrozenArbiter wrote:
LilClinkin, War3 mapsizes and replay sizes are *almost identical to SC*.



WC3 maps are a full MB bigger than SC maps. Replay sizes are similar, but that's because WC3 reps don't include the map.

c:\spel\Warcraft III\Maps\Frozen Throne\(4)CentaurGrove.w3x
Size: 177 KB

C:\spel\Starcraft\Maps\BroodWar\Ladder\(6)Medusa.scx
Size: 155 kb

WC3 maps are only slightly bigger than SC maps unless they have extensive triggers, I'm pretty sure. The smallest map in the Frozen Throne folder is 65 KB (a 4 player map).
The smallest map in the BroodWar folder is 65 kb (a 2 player map).


I stand corrected, only looked at the NGL maps. But those are still a full MB bigger and don't do anything more special than the Blizzard ones than advertise their names.


Well that makes sense, since they implement graphics that aren't found in the regular game. A "tree" or whatever in the .mpq folder might be close to a MB, so it's safe to assume outside images coming in could increase the size by a MB or so.

Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12249 Posts
July 05 2009 05:39 GMT
#84
This news is pretty disappointing. Like FA, I never watched very many War3 replays because they're not really fun to watch alone and offline. I think I've watched maybe a dozen ever, but I've watched hundreds, if not thousands, of BW replays on Battle.net. Let's hope the first patch is out soon after release, and that it contains multiplayer replays.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
July 05 2009 05:43 GMT
#85
Only thing that makes WC3 reps fun is when you watch a good RWA >.<
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LilClinkin
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Australia667 Posts
July 05 2009 05:53 GMT
#86
*sigh*

I never wrote my post in support of Blizzards decisions. I merely explained why they did what they did. I want to be able to watch replays online just as much as you guys do. Don't attack me for posting useful information, it makes you look like whiny fuckheads.

Frozenarbiter: Yes I am aware that some War3 melee maps are small, similar in size to BW maps. However, the UMS are much larger, and this must have been why Blizzard decided to do what they did. This was Blizzard's decision, not mine. I agree with you: it's stupid. The methods suggested by other posters are a better way of enabling online replays. Tell it to Blizzard, not me.

On July 05 2009 10:47 sgt_cr wrote:
LilClinkin you are wrong, to be able to watch replays in w3 u still need to have the map, if u dont have the map u cant watch the replay.

Blizzard is being just stupid, this is ONE MAJOR ISSUE.


Wow, fail harder. Yes you do need the map, I never said you didn't. Stop putting words into my mouth and learn to read what I wrote, rather than jump to stupid assumptions.
SkY)CosMoS
Profile Joined July 2006
Dominican Republic106 Posts
July 05 2009 05:56 GMT
#87
Im with FA on this one, usually people complain about nothing. But this is pretty stupid, whats next?
"Hey guys you wont be able to actually play each other at launch, its a feature we'd like to add in the future"

Ok that was stupid but you get the picture... we're supposed to have improved experience, this actually diminishes it, hope they wont pull a wc3.
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Railz
Profile Joined July 2008
United States1449 Posts
July 05 2009 06:00 GMT
#88
Eh, with all the replay functionality I can't say I'm surprised to be completely honest.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-05 06:01:43
July 05 2009 06:00 GMT
#89
On July 05 2009 14:53 LilClinkin wrote:
*sigh*

I never wrote my post in support of Blizzards decisions. I merely explained why they did what they did. I want to be able to watch replays online just as much as you guys do. Don't attack me for posting useful information, it makes you look like whiny fuckheads.

Frozenarbiter: Yes I am aware that some War3 melee maps are small, similar in size to BW maps. However, the UMS are much larger, and this must have been why Blizzard decided to do what they did. This was Blizzard's decision, not mine. I agree with you: it's stupid. The methods suggested by other posters are a better way of enabling online replays. Tell it to Blizzard, not me.

Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 10:47 sgt_cr wrote:
LilClinkin you are wrong, to be able to watch replays in w3 u still need to have the map, if u dont have the map u cant watch the replay.

Blizzard is being just stupid, this is ONE MAJOR ISSUE.


Wow, fail harder. Yes you do need the map, I never said you didn't. Stop putting words into my mouth and learn to read what I wrote, rather than jump to stupid assumptions.

I don't see why you say this is why they made that decision. There is no difference between this and downloading the actual ums map for when you want to actually play it.

Infact, you don't even need to support replays for UMS if you don't want to (they are unwatchable when sped up in BW anyway):

Again, where are you getting this from? Where did Blizzard say this? What am I missing?

You say "this must be why" <- Why? It makes so little sense that I refuse to believe Blizzard would behave that irrationally :S There must be a better line of reasoning.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
DanceDance
Profile Joined November 2008
226 Posts
July 05 2009 06:21 GMT
#90
I have one question.

Where do we go to download replays if we cant get them from the new battle.net?
I do not want to go to some third party site to get a replay.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
July 05 2009 06:23 GMT
#91
Eh, that's how it has always been for SC, WC3.. and every other game - ever.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
EximoSua
Profile Joined June 2009
171 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-05 06:30:10
July 05 2009 06:29 GMT
#92
They obviously have some reason for not including it...they haven't included it since WC3. They know everyone wants it, but they don't do it - I just wish I understood WHY. I'm sure I would see their side of things if they would explain it.
David Kim for Bonjwa
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27175 Posts
July 05 2009 07:30 GMT
#93
The first omission that really really bothers me.
ModeratorGodfather
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
July 05 2009 07:50 GMT
#94
The only reason why they are omitting online replays for launch is most likely time constrain, and not anything else.
It just isn't a big deal for a majority of their customers.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
July 05 2009 07:52 GMT
#95
But rewinding replays is?
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-05 08:14:08
July 05 2009 07:55 GMT
#96
On July 05 2009 15:21 DanceDance wrote:
I have one question.

Where do we go to download replays if we cant get them from the new battle.net?
I do not want to go to some third party site to get a replay.


What is the big problem, and trying to put all replays on one server would likely cause some mess. Just alt tab, find and download replay it takes less then a minute.

btw. how long was SC beta?
CongoJack
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada417 Posts
July 05 2009 08:02 GMT
#97
I've never actually watched any Starcraft replays online but this is still shitty news.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5860 Posts
July 05 2009 08:11 GMT
#98
I hope they just include the missing features in beta or soon after release. It's sad that they're omitting some of them, but I'd prefer the game to be released on schedule rather than have them delay it just so that they can include couple extra toys.
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
July 05 2009 08:34 GMT
#99
On July 05 2009 17:11 maybenexttime wrote:
I hope they just include the missing features in beta or soon after release. It's sad that they're omitting some of them, but I'd prefer the game to be released on schedule rather than have them delay it just so that they can include couple extra toys.


Yeah that is great but the game has very dubious mechanics now, and if they want to rush beta in 4 months then we can end up with the game that patch will not fix. Also there is no guarantee that they will add those feature after the game gets gold status.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27175 Posts
July 05 2009 08:35 GMT
#100
I cant believe people are passing this off as an "extra" or a "toy". Watching replays together was a fundamental part of the SC experience for so many people. For me it is a make or break deal.
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