EPTIS BLIZZARD ******* STUPID ???
i watched overt 300.000 replays with friends in bw and i 100% think after 1 day there will be enough reps to watch with friends ... what idiots would not implent rep online
No online replays! - Rob Pardo Interview - Page 12
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CoL_Drake
Germany455 Posts
IS BLIZZARD ******* STUPID ??? i watched overt 300.000 replays with friends in bw and i 100% think after 1 day there will be enough reps to watch with friends ... what idiots would not implent rep online | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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Spawkuring
United States755 Posts
On July 07 2009 01:13 Plexa wrote: I would argue that in a game like WoW there is essentially limitless possibilities for the developers to pursue - it's hard to say when enough is enough and you do have to draw the line somewhere. That's precisely the point I'm making. Both WoW and Bnet 2.0 are going to have limitless possibilities, so you can no longer just say "It'll be done when it's done" since the game would never come out if you did. Blizzard repeats that line to placate the fans, but it's obvious that they can no longer do that as games continue to demand more and more features. I'm not trying to demonize Blizzard here, I'm just being realistic. | ||
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MiniRoman
Canada3953 Posts
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
On July 07 2009 01:02 Plexa wrote: No I can 100% vouch for Blizzard's "its done when its done" policy  You have to define what done is first. If you mean done as in perfect - you can't either add more stuff to the game or polish the current content any further - I would say no Blizzard game so far can live up to that criteria, because last time I checked all their games have had patches not to mention expansions. If you mean done as in more polished than most games, then I would say all Blizzard games have lived up to that. Some posters here seems to have a very naive view about how Blizzard works, or for that matter worked.. If you work on a project with a team you need to have deadlines, it is that simple, period. | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
Guess Blizzard changed a lot since Broodwar. The worse part it. As bugged as wow it, it still has millions of subscribers. So why change a team that is winning? Starcraft 2 will probably follow wow's steps and will have a lot of broken features hidden beneath a lot of eye-candy. | ||
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Eury
Sweden1126 Posts
On July 07 2009 01:41 VIB wrote: Reminds me of the first few months after they released WoW. The game was sooo incomplete and sooooooo buggy that many people called it "the payed Beta phase" :S Guess Blizzard changed a lot since Broodwar. The worse part it. As bugged as wow it, it still has millions of subscribers. So why change a team that is winning? Starcraft 2 will probably follow wow's steps and will have a lot of broken features hidden beneath a lot of eye-candy. This post is so horrible misinformed that I really hope that you are trolling. | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On July 07 2009 01:45 Eury wrote: This post is so deep and insightful that I really believe that you are not trolling.This post is so horrible misinformed that I really hope that you are trolling. | ||
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Spawkuring
United States755 Posts
On July 07 2009 01:41 VIB wrote: Reminds me of the first few months after they released WoW. The game was sooo incomplete and sooooooo buggy that many people called it "the payed Beta phase" :S Guess Blizzard changed a lot since Broodwar. The worse part it. As bugged as wow it, it still has millions of subscribers. So why change a team that is winning? Starcraft 2 will probably follow wow's steps and will have a lot of broken features hidden beneath a lot of eye-candy. Well I don't really think Blizzard's philosophy has changed much at all. I've always thought that the whole "Old Blizzard vs. New Blizzard" belief was absolute garbage. It's not that Blizzard is turning greedy, it's just that the gaming industry is evolving, and developers are having to adapt to a world that is changing at a blindingly fast rate. Games are much more demanding to make nowadays. Just look at the trilogy for example. It's going to have ~90 missions in total, dozens of cinematics both real-time and pre-rendered, and a new way of storytelling previously unheard of in an RTS. I don't blame Blizzard in the least for splitting it up into 3 games, because if you were to go to any RTS company and tell them to create a 90 mission campaign with numerous cinematics that are all completely high quality and polished and stuff it all into one $50 price tag, you would get laughed out of the building. EDIT: We have it good to have Blizzard as a game company. It's just more of a question to make sure that their priorities are in order, because I don't really want achievements to be the reason why we won't have online replays at launch. I'm just hoping that they have something really good as a replacement. | ||
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Klockan3
Sweden2866 Posts
On July 07 2009 01:41 VIB wrote: Reminds me of the first few months after they released WoW. The game was sooo incomplete and sooooooo buggy that many people called it "the payed Beta phase" :S Guess Blizzard changed a lot since Broodwar. The worse part it. As bugged as wow it, it still has millions of subscribers. So why change a team that is winning? Starcraft 2 will probably follow wow's steps and will have a lot of broken features hidden beneath a lot of eye-candy. mmorpgs are by nature more buggy than other games, I don't think that there is any mmorpg launch that weren't called "paid beta". Wow was certainly not among the worst, the biggest problem was the amount of players since they hadn't anticipated that it would be such a success. It wasn't that buggy, I was there the first day, the login servers and such crashed due to the huge pressure but the second day everything was fine and the whole game was playable. A few minor bugs of course but nothing even close to game breaking. | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On July 07 2009 01:54 Spawkuring wrote: To be honest, now that I think about it. I think you're right. They're just following the current tendencies.Well I don't really think Blizzard's philosophy has changed much at all. I've always thought that the whole "Old Blizzard vs. New Blizzard" belief was absolute garbage. It's not that Blizzard is turning greedy, it's just that the gaming industry is evolving, and developers are having to adapt to a world that is changing at a blindingly fast rate. Guess what we need is a powerful competitor that prioritize costumers better than current game developers to. To set up a better standard to be followed. Why would blizzard bother, when the competition isn't any better? >< | ||
danieldrsa
Brazil523 Posts
On July 07 2009 01:02 Plexa wrote: No I can 100% vouch for Blizzard's "its done when its done" policy As any project i think its natural SC2 has a target date to be ready. They are just better producers, as if they feel the project need to be delayed, they delay it. As for companies like *cof EA *cof, if the deadline is near, its absolutely impossible to delay. I will hold my judgment for when they talk of the Bnet. I think the problem is: they are doing too much interviews, and saying only what we will not have. Better to hold interviews until we have something more concrete about Bnet 2.0 | ||
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Self Help
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On July 07 2009 01:02 Plexa wrote: No I can 100% vouch for Blizzard's "its done when its done" policy Wasn't that the policy that they used for starcraft ghost? | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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Medzo
United States627 Posts
Im sure there will be pay features for BNet 2.0, but I think some of the posts here are off the deep end. Something as simple as $10 for a name change is what I am thinking. Maybe even $5 to reset your stats (to help against smurfs?). Basically, things you don't need what so ever but tons of people will buy anyway. Starcraft Ghost was being made by a 3rd party company, blizzard gave them the rights to make a starcraft themed game. There is no telling what kind of issues those developers had while making SC:G, and it doesn't say anything about Blizzard other than the fact that they will probably never do that again. I think I already gave my opinion about the online replay feature, just ask for it in beta and they will likely add it in sooner. Also, Rob Pardo is more of a manager for all blizzard games, I wouldn't take what he says as final when it comes to a relatively small feature like this. He probably knows its on a list of features, and not in the game at the moment, but I would be surprised if he memorized the order on the list of everything that is going in to every blizzard game + all of the other random things he has to keep track of at his job. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On July 07 2009 01:45 Eury wrote: This post is so horrible misinformed that I really hope that you are trolling. It actually isn't. WoW was riddled with a massive amount of bugs at release, and all the raid content they released after the initial launch was bugged. BWL? Gate not opening. AQ40? Impossible C'thun and a boss that required its own loot to beat. Naxx? 4H fight was broken at release too. I can't speak for the expansions, but that's the history of the game. There's obviously more, like there being raid ending lag spikes server wide, which led to a number of the game's premiere old school guilds (including the one with the first world kill on ragnaros) leaving our server because thaddius became near-impossible to do without dying 8 times if it wasn't 2 am. But that was cool, because the near 1200 people that transferred off our server paid for the new hardware we got 8 months later. | ||
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Medzo
United States627 Posts
On July 07 2009 08:21 L wrote: It actually isn't. WoW was riddled with a massive amount of bugs at release, and all the raid content they released after the initial launch was bugged. BWL? Gate not opening. AQ40? Impossible C'thun and a boss that required its own loot to beat. Naxx? 4H fight was broken at release too. I can't speak for the expansions, but that's the history of the game. There's obviously more, like there being raid ending lag spikes server wide, which led to a number of the game's premiere old school guilds (including the one with the first world kill on ragnaros) leaving our server because thaddius became near-impossible to do without dying 8 times if it wasn't 2 am. But that was cool, because the near 1200 people that transferred off our server paid for the new hardware we got 8 months later. BWL was buggy for about two weeks. The AQ40 gate worked fine, the problem was the whole server being in one location, a problem they knew and told the community about dozens of times before ever implementing AQ40 (but the community begged for a world event consistantly). Cthun wasn't unbeatable with his own loot, the problem was tentacles spawned in his stomach for awhile and then they removed them. The 4 horseman encounter wasn't bugged, it was built as a ridiculous encounter where you needed 8 tanks, that never changed till wotlk. | ||
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Kratisto
United States199 Posts
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Mobius
Canada1268 Posts
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Nitrogen
United States5345 Posts
On July 07 2009 09:40 Mobius wrote: tl;dr you're a shithead -_- seriously don't post like that in here, we already have enough of it anyways for the people saying that it will be added in later, yeah it probably will, but why release the game without one of the core things in starcraft. it doesn't seem like it would take too long to add either, seeing as how they had it in sc1. | ||
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