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On July 06 2009 18:34 sgt_cr wrote:
If all they care is to lunch the game asap, why not launching it now? without balancing so much and just releasing it? anyways if they rebalance now they will need to rebalance later, so its time wasted?
see is the same thing why not including this feature instead of adding it later?
Eury, u have to understand that now 2009 is very different back then 1998, replays were a mere concept, now days u have a lot of social networking and watching reps is one of those main features that connects ppl and helps them enjoy not just the game they are about to play but the game they played few minutes ago, and same when they want to enjoy the rep of someone else...
What will happen if they suddenly tells u that u cant watch soccer(insert ur fav sport) anymore with ppl, that u need to watch them alone? pretty stupid if u ask me, bc the passion and the joy is always better with more ppl to share, blizzard needs to know that is IS REALLY a major issue, sure they can add it later, but then again not add a lot of stuff like rebalancing later and just release it now?
Come on Blizzard plz add this on release of SC2!!!! if u really care about us the old customers plz do it. thanks.
Yes, when something you have got used to and come to expect is missing you will notice that very much, but for whatever reason Blizzard is prioritizing other new, aswell as old, features in favor of viewing replays online. You may disagree with their prioritizing - which is fair - but it is a bit naive to demand that they delay the game until everything on the wish list is implemented.
They have to draw the line somewhere; because no matter how much manpower, time, money and other resources you spend, you will never get a perfect product (hence why we have patches). I would say that it is already likely that they won't be able to release the game this year, and adding more stuff that must be added before launch on the list, risk delaying the game further and further.
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On July 06 2009 19:07 Eury wrote:
I would say that it is already likely that they won't be able to release the game this year, and adding more stuff that must be added before launch on the list, risk delaying the game further and further.
I think they will release it this year for sure. Seems to me that is their dead line and they will not move it unless something extreme happens.
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Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
On July 06 2009 19:07 Eury wrote:
Yes, when something you have got used to and come to expect is missing you will notice that very much, but for whatever reason Blizzard is prioritizing other new, aswell as old, features in favor of viewing replays online. You may disagree with their prioritizing - which is fair - but it is a bit naive to demand that they delay the game until everything on the wish list is implemented.
They have to draw the line somewhere; because no matter how much manpower, time, money and other resources you spend, you will never get a perfect product (hence why we have patches). I would say that it is already likely that they won't be able to release the game this year, and adding more stuff that must be added before launch on the list, risk delaying the game further and further.
The thing is that they say so much that SC2 is going to be geared for e-sports, but then they fail to add some fundamental functions that made SC1 so successful as a e-sport. They have an eager community with huge experience in competitive gaming who would love to give their input and explain what features are of high priority and what features aren't. After all, this is the community they are targeting, it surely would make sense to synchronise their feature list with them? But no, they haven't time, though they somehow do have time to implement gimmicks such as achievements, B.net chat in single player, replay rewinding and so on.
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I will like them to say that the feature will be add it later, and they left it out bc of the deadlines and not bc they believe its not useful at all, i just dont want SC2 to be just like W3, i know a lot of ppl that stop playing W3 bc it was boring to watch replays by themselfs (me included).
I can leave with the feature been add later as a patch or something like that... but leaving it out just scares me... a lot.
if u see 10-11page of ppl getting mad bc of this feature not been added then u know that something is wrong, i mean im pretty much sure that ppl will like this feature first before Rewind, Rewind is just a nice to have thingy but this multiplayer/obs replays is major for a lot of ppl.
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I can live with all the MBS, the automining, and all those new UIs features.... but not having replays online at all is just heartbreaking.
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I would guess that there is a reason you can't watch replays online in wc3 and it is the same reason it is troublesome for them to add online replays to starcraft 2.
So, there is most likely some feature in the wc3 replays that weren't in the starcraft ones which creates problems and it is not that easy to fix.
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On July 06 2009 19:37 sgt_cr wrote:
I can live with all the MBS, the automining, and all those new UIs features.... but not having replays online at all is just heartbreaking.
So you are going to kill yourself now..?
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
This is a major deal, and I hope the new polls reflects this
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Sweden33719 Posts
On July 06 2009 20:04 Integra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2009 19:37 sgt_cr wrote:
I can live with all the MBS, the automining, and all those new UIs features.... but not having replays online at all is just heartbreaking. So you are going to kill yourself now..?
We won't have to man, we'll die of broken heart! :p
On July 06 2009 18:52 teapot wrote:
As a WC3 player, this was always a feature that I wanted in WC3. But I can't think of that many times when I would actually want to use it. It would mostly been a way to easily get friends to watch my exciting games, and make sure that they watched it -_-;; I doubt I would have ever watched pro replays in this way.
Basically, I would have used this feature infrequently. I tend to watch replays in "quiet moments" when I'm too tired to actually game. And I'm more than happy to watch them alone. Quite frankly, I prefer to watch TV, movies by myself. But I understand if you would like to have that option available to you.
Besides, you talk of the enjoyment of watching pro matches with friends. It is a lot more fun to watch pro matches live. I'm sure Blizzard will implement some sort of WaaaghTV system in SC2.
I wouldn't really be too fussed at all about the lack of online replays. I'm more interested in how they allow a large audience to watch pro games live.
1) Can you really know whether you'd have used it or not? You say you used to watch replays in quiet moments, when too tired to game - that's exactly when I watched replays. Would go something like
/f m from person on f list "Hey want to game?" "Nah too tired - rep?" "Sure, gogo!".
2) Yes, waaaghtv is awesome. I hope they add it, at least they haven't denied it yet (but they have denied LAN and replays - so it's a good sign for WaaaghTV).
On July 06 2009 18:11 Stuyvesant wrote:Im extremely pleased with no replay feature.. i didnt want it to be in the game till later like what happened 1.08... Blizzard has answered my prayers! You guys are such replay whores! it will come when the game is nearly broken 
There are replays, you just have to watch them by yourself.
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On July 06 2009 20:04 Integra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2009 19:37 sgt_cr wrote:
I can live with all the MBS, the automining, and all those new UIs features.... but not having replays online at all is just heartbreaking. So you are going to kill yourself now..?
Not yet, im still waiting to see what is Blizzard is going to say about this; besides... who dies bc of a heartbreak? 
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On July 06 2009 20:10 Plexa wrote:
This is a major deal, and I hope the new polls reflects this
No lan, no online reps. no Hotkeys please blizzard...
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no online reps.
Guys this is getting more doubtful.
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Sweden33719 Posts
StorZerg, I've always wanted to know - what does your name mean? I can't think of an english meaning for the word Stor (means "big" in swedish - coincidence?) >_<
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Statistics and Operations Research Zerg.
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No lan and no replays, my two favorite things about Sc1 are gone...Also was so stoked about customizable hotkeys.
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On July 06 2009 22:16 FrozenArbiter wrote:
StorZerg, I've always wanted to know - what does your name mean? I can't think of an english meaning for the word Stor (means "big" in swedish - coincidence?) >_<
I actually messed my name up. TT its suppose to be StorrZerg (zerg being tribute to JulyZerg and watching him, reason i got into StarCraft)
Storr (Wolf) is a Lir Linked to Finn (human shape changer) whom is a Cheysuli, And they are based off of the Chronicles of the Cheysuli (An 8-volume series)
(edit, and o yeah I liked Storr and Finn in the book and what they do, pretty badass guys)
edit -as for big, no kinda the opposite lol
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On July 06 2009 16:57 Eury wrote:
I don't think whether viewing replays online solely determines if a game is polished or not.
Blizzard have deadlines just like everyone else even though they spend a considerable more time than most polishing their games.
No. The new Blizzard/Activision has deadlines. Blizzard released games when they were ready.
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On July 07 2009 00:49 Bowdz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2009 16:57 Eury wrote:
I don't think whether viewing replays online solely determines if a game is polished or not.
Blizzard have deadlines just like everyone else even though they spend a considerable more time than most polishing their games. No. The new Blizzard/Activision has deadlines. Blizzard released games when they were ready.
Don't be naive. There's no such thing as a company, especially one as big as Blizzard, that has no deadlines. The whole "done when it's done" has always been marketing rhetoric, nothing more. Even though I want certain features to be in at release, even I can admit that they can't just include everything they want at shipping. It takes a lot more to make a game in 2009 than it did in 1998.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On July 07 2009 00:52 Spawkuring wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2009 00:49 Bowdz wrote:On July 06 2009 16:57 Eury wrote:
I don't think whether viewing replays online solely determines if a game is polished or not.
Blizzard have deadlines just like everyone else even though they spend a considerable more time than most polishing their games. No. The new Blizzard/Activision has deadlines. Blizzard released games when they were ready. Don't be naive. There's no such thing as a company, especially one as big as Blizzard, that has no deadlines. The whole "done when it's done" has always been marketing rhetoric, nothing more. Even though I want certain features to be in at release, even I can admit that they can't just include everything they want at shipping. It takes a lot more to make a game in 2009 than it did in 1998.
No I can 100% vouch for Blizzard's "its done when its done" policy
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On July 07 2009 01:02 Plexa wrote:No I can 100% vouch for Blizzard's "its done when its done" policy
I find that hard to believe since Wrath of the Lich King had a lot of stuff that was delayed in patches in order to insure a Winter release. WoW players are still waiting for Dance Studios for one, it took them 4 years to finally implement siege weapons and heroes, and WotLK had far less end-game content than The Burning Crusade did. Blizzard games are always polished to a higher standard than other games, but they aren't perfect.
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