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No online replays! - Rob Pardo Interview - Page 6

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Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
July 05 2009 08:48 GMT
#101
On July 05 2009 16:52 FrozenArbiter wrote:
But rewinding replays is?


From what I have seen, yes, rewinding in replays have been requested more than watching replays online.
naventus
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States1339 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-05 08:49:09
July 05 2009 08:48 GMT
#102
The other super important thing about this feature for Blizzard is that it's a great way to bring casuals into the game. People who might be intimidated by a match can still enjoy hopping into a replay and spectating a saved, well played game by good players with other people.

This is one thing that also really hurt the WC3 experience - how do I watch a replay together with a friend? We'd have to get on vent and sync up.
hmm.
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4653 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-05 09:55:18
July 05 2009 08:56 GMT
#103
Pardo's "no online replay on release" means "we want to charge you extra for that feature." Simple
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Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
July 05 2009 08:57 GMT
#104
On July 05 2009 17:48 Eury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 16:52 FrozenArbiter wrote:
But rewinding replays is?


From what I have seen, yes, rewinding in replays have been requested more than watching replays online.


That is becouse SC players assumed that watch replays online will be implanted.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5869 Posts
July 05 2009 08:59 GMT
#105
On July 05 2009 17:35 Manifesto7 wrote:
I cant believe people are passing this off as an "extra" or a "toy". Watching replays together was a fundamental part of the SC experience for so many people. For me it is a make or break deal.


I think you can pass it off as a "toy" if you consider the fact that they would be able to release the game in December 2009 while adding this feature in January or February next year instead of delaying the whole game those couple months just so that they can have it on release.

That wouldn't make sense.
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6122 Posts
July 05 2009 09:02 GMT
#106
WHAT THE FUCK!

This is worse than having no LAN. Seriously they must put the is feature in.
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Polyphasic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States841 Posts
July 05 2009 10:00 GMT
#107
On July 05 2009 06:05 Yenzilla wrote:
Watch the video before you start begin fear-mongering, they said they don't have replay watching with more than one person at the same time. Also, the other feature that won't make its way into the original game is a replay editor, not replays.

Tip of the Day!: Translations of an interview that was translated to another language do not lend themselves to accuracy.


interesting concept...

what is a replay editor?

and is it similar to the play-from-replay feature?
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DeCoup
Profile Joined September 2006
Australia1933 Posts
July 05 2009 11:28 GMT
#108
Honestly I am very upset about this decision. Me and my best mate were planning on playing as competitively as we can against each other, and every time we had a match where one of us was saying 'ok htf did you just beat me' we were planning on opening up the replay and pointing our mistakes, tactics or micro out to each other. This will severely decrease the efficency of our learning process as a whole. We'll make do.. but still, epic fail.
"Poor guy. I really did not deserve that win. So this is what it's like to play Protoss..." - IdrA
Hammy
Profile Joined January 2009
France828 Posts
July 05 2009 11:33 GMT
#109
Unfortunately this sort of attitude was to be expected the moment they announced a three-part game... Though seriously... what's the big deal about getting multiplayer replays?
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27178 Posts
July 05 2009 11:35 GMT
#110
On July 05 2009 20:33 Hammy wrote:
Unfortunately this sort of attitude was to be expected the moment they announced a three-part game... Though seriously... what's the big deal about getting multiplayer replays?


This has nothing to do with a three part game.

Multiplayer replays represents an enormous social aspect of broodwar. Watching replays of tournaments with friends is awesome, and watching replays with the people you play against is one of the best ways to improve.

I've watched as many replays as I have played games in the last 9 years.
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Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
July 05 2009 11:40 GMT
#111
Would you not play SC1 when it was released just because there were no replays at version 1.00? Come on. Release the game already, it is goon enough.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27178 Posts
July 05 2009 11:56 GMT
#112
On July 05 2009 20:40 Cheerio wrote:
Would you not play SC1 when it was released just because there were no replays at version 1.00? Come on. Release the game already, it is goon enough.


I didn't play WC3 and that was a big reason.
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Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
July 05 2009 12:05 GMT
#113
On July 05 2009 20:40 Cheerio wrote:
Would you not play SC1 when it was released just because there were no replays at version 1.00? Come on. Release the game already, it is goon enough.


When SC was released there was no rts with replay option it was a new concept. Most players were SP then, and discover mp with SC, much more popular then War2, or any other mp.
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3479 Posts
July 05 2009 12:13 GMT
#114
On July 05 2009 20:40 Cheerio wrote:
Would you not play SC1 when it was released just because there were no replays at version 1.00? Come on. Release the game already, it is goon enough.

Im convinced that BW would be long dead with no replays to be honest. And not being able to watch and comment with friends is pretty bad considering that most of the time thats the way to share interesting non pro replays, im not gonna download the BO3 between X e Y but if X comes and tell me on bnet: "hey i just won against Y wanna watch?" i almost sure going to watch with him.
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 05 2009 12:37 GMT
#115
From an international esports perspective, this makes little sense. If we really can get into a situation with very minimal lantency then live stream generally sucks ass. Things like the TSL couldn't be broadcast live due to potential latency issues. Replays were an easy way to work around this and allowed the games to be played lag free while also ensuring a lag free cast. Sure there was the delay, but after the initial "omg its a replay" no one cared that it was a rep.

That, in addition to everything else said really pisses me off =[
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 05 2009 12:39 GMT
#116
On July 05 2009 17:48 Eury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 16:52 FrozenArbiter wrote:
But rewinding replays is?


From what I have seen, yes, rewinding in replays have been requested more than watching replays online.
Rewinding in replays is a new feature that would be useful to help analyze games. Watching replays online is an old feature, assumed to be carried through, which is ESSENTIAL in analyzing games (and just generally enjoying the beauty of SC)
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Doctorasul
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Romania1145 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-05 13:10:59
July 05 2009 13:10 GMT
#117
Can anyone please confirm they are at least fixing for SC2 the map issue war3 has with replays? I was assuming they are, but now that they're doing this, I can't be sure about anything anymore.
"I believe in Spinoza's god who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but not in a god who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings." - Albert Einstein
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-05 13:13:33
July 05 2009 13:12 GMT
#118
On July 05 2009 06:05 Yenzilla wrote:
Watch the video before you start begin fear-mongering, they said they don't have replay watching with more than one person at the same time. Also, the other feature that won't make its way into the original game is a replay editor, not replays.

Tip of the Day!: Translations of an interview that was translated to another language do not lend themselves to accuracy.

You did not understand any of posts here. We want to watch replays online with friends! That's one of the best things to do lol. It's just as if Blizz said "hey Tasteless, Artosis, Day[9] - in SC2 you CAN'T commentate pro games, we don't want to have commentators in SC2". Plain sucky. Man, i agree with most ppl - screw LAN but hell, reps with friends, is this REALLY so hard to implement? :/
I sometimes gather with my SC-playing friends on bn and we just watch reps and analyse them, it's just fun and SC2 won't have that option, it sux sux sux :/


This news just screwed my day


Come on, SC replay system was IMO better than WC3 one and now SC2 system is gonna be even worse than either SC or WC3's one :|
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
July 05 2009 14:05 GMT
#119
On July 05 2009 21:39 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 17:48 Eury wrote:
On July 05 2009 16:52 FrozenArbiter wrote:
But rewinding replays is?


From what I have seen, yes, rewinding in replays have been requested more than watching replays online.
Rewinding in replays is a new feature that would be useful to help analyze games. Watching replays online is an old feature, assumed to be carried through, which is ESSENTIAL in analyzing games (and just generally enjoying the beauty of SC)


That wasn't really the point though.

The SC 2 team got two lists: the first one is a to-do-list, all things on that list needs to be in the game at launch. The second list is a wish list, things on that list are what the SC 2 team wants to add beyond the launch, whether it is in patches or expansions.

Now, the SC 2 team saw that the rewind feature was heavily requested so they put that feature on the to-do-list, while the online replay feature wasn't requested for as much so it went to the wish list.

I'm sure that if people start to request that feature in a polite and constructive manner; that they will add that into the game in one of the earlier patches.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-05 14:07:27
July 05 2009 14:06 GMT
#120
It's not just no multiplayer replays, it's no multiplayer replays while the game is brand new and they are vital to people learning the game with each other. Adding it later is fine and all, but that won't make up for it not being there when people want to use it most - when they don't grasp the game and want to exchange knowledge with each other over the games they have played. This is a very disappointing move

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