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No online replays! - Rob Pardo Interview - Page 8

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Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
July 05 2009 16:16 GMT
#141
Another dissapointment
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 05 2009 16:20 GMT
#142
On July 06 2009 01:04 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2009 00:46 L wrote:
I can see there being a special service for something like this, akin to a replay portal that you pay 50 cents to log into, or a service that you pay 2$ a month for access to. It certainly isn't impossible.

Either way, what other explanation do you have for one of the defining features of the game being chopped out? We had a pretty conclusive conclusion that LAN is being removed because blizzard wants to cash in, so what's the excuse here? Add it in the protoss or zerg game and force people to buy that? Why not deliver a full product at launch, especially given the massive development cycle the game's gone through?

They didn't have it in WC3, yet they had no transactions for that game. Who knows?

I honestly think they aren't aware of how important it is.

I think it comes down to exactly this. Barely a word has been spoken about online replays (just some passing comments really).
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
July 05 2009 16:28 GMT
#143
Again some "good" news for sc2. It will take like 1 year just to make this game complete and another 5 to balance the races so I'll buy it then. OMG! t.t not good, not good at all
Forever Vulture.. :(
NoNones
Profile Joined June 2009
41 Posts
July 05 2009 16:54 GMT
#144
I call shenanigans this is an exact feature that was wanted by all that wc3 lacked.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=57702
sushiman
Profile Joined September 2003
Sweden2691 Posts
July 05 2009 17:09 GMT
#145
They have time to add something as unimportant as rewards, but doesn't bother with something that is actually useful, like watching replays online? -___-;;
1000 at least.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
July 05 2009 18:00 GMT
#146
On July 05 2009 17:56 [X]Ken_D wrote:
Pardo's "no online replay on release" means "we want to charge you extra for that feature." Simple

Money money money ;(
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Spawkuring
Profile Joined July 2008
United States755 Posts
July 05 2009 19:30 GMT
#147
Don't jump the gun and assume that they're just gonna charge for it. Leave that conclusion-jumping garbage to the WoW forums, not here.

I personally agree with FA that Blizzard seems unaware of how much we want this feature. It's somewhat troubling that some of the most wanted features are being put on the backburner for other things. It really makes me wonder just what is going on with Blizzard's priorities here.
Rotodyne
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2263 Posts
July 05 2009 19:35 GMT
#148
On July 05 2009 17:48 Eury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2009 16:52 FrozenArbiter wrote:
But rewinding replays is?


From what I have seen, yes, rewinding in replays have been requested more than watching replays online.


Yup, rewinding replays is definitely requested more than watching replays online. This is because we all just assumed it was a guaranteed feature because it was in SC1.
I can only play starcraft when I am shit canned. IPXZERG is a god.
Elian
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States129 Posts
July 05 2009 19:52 GMT
#149
I don't understand how this can possibly be.

It seems too simple... Some magical stuff must be happening with the rewinding in order to make this a difficult process.. that could be so entwined with the replay format that they can't simply disable rewinding and boom it works.

Still, this is a disappointment. Surely Blizzard understands that announcing all of these cuts is just going to anger people. Where are my rose colored glasses, Blizzard? You forgot to send me a pair.

I am still optimistic overall... but my confidence will be waning if this keeps up..
ryuu_
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1266 Posts
July 05 2009 19:55 GMT
#150
On July 05 2009 05:39 omninmo wrote:
DISGUSTING.



This.
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
July 05 2009 20:28 GMT
#151
I don't have any friends that are into Starcraft so I always watch both live streams and replays alone.

The closest I've gotten to watching a replay with friends was when I watched Tasteless commentate the GOM invitational, his enthusiastic outbursts were awesome, they kinda affirmed my own thoughts about what was going on most of the time (except for the times when he turned out to know better), and he made my watching that much more involved and fun. If watching a replay with friends is anything like that then it's a feature that cannot be excluded.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
July 05 2009 20:31 GMT
#152
They said in the interview they definitely won't have broadband internet be a requirement, but I think it might be nice if it was. How many people would be left out internationally due to only having 56k dial-up?
Horangi
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Hong Kong226 Posts
July 05 2009 20:54 GMT
#153
probably b.net2 payed feature?
Rebel_lion
Profile Joined January 2009
United States271 Posts
July 05 2009 21:08 GMT
#154
Seems the way gaming is going. xbox360 punches you in your face repeatedly for money. People love it.

They mayhaps saw that and figured they gotta get in on the action.

It was funny. Then sad.

Wait till we have to pay fees to access the only place where pro-level SC is played.

Something witty here....
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
July 05 2009 21:19 GMT
#155
On July 06 2009 05:31 Jonoman92 wrote:
They said in the interview they definitely won't have broadband internet be a requirement, but I think it might be nice if it was. How many people would be left out internationally due to only having 56k dial-up?


That is silly if somebody has slow internet and don't want to wait that long or get kicked then that is not a reason to remove that option for everybody else. He loose nothing becouse of that option, that is like putting only extra high latency becouse they don't to require only IP with good pings to they servers.

Anyway technically it would work even with 56k modem it would just take time, so it would meet minimum requirements, and when somebody watch replay with friends then chatting for 5 minutes while it is downloading may be an option for them.
Aphelion
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States2720 Posts
July 05 2009 21:22 GMT
#156
I easily spent >2/3 of my time online watching replays with others. This is a major mistake by Blizzard.
But Garimto was always more than just a Protoss...
Self Help
Profile Joined July 2009
45 Posts
July 05 2009 21:22 GMT
#157
I doubt blizzard would gouge people playing Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 for money left and right (at least not for large amounts) for features which many would consider a standard, like viewing replays over battle.net.

Note: As long as they get it out there with in 6 months or so of the initial release it's fine, to me. But why would he say something like that when the game lacks a release date? What's stopping you from pushing back the release date a month or so to develop some additional features to be ready at launch.

Saying that features that they mean to put on there but wont have by release just eggs people on for bad reviews of the game. As most review games at release not a few months down the line.
UmmTheHobo
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States650 Posts
July 05 2009 21:35 GMT
#158
Anybody who jumps to the conclusion that it will be a payed feature is fucking retarded. Blizzard has NEVER charged for a feature that wasn't cosmetic and or worthless (like switching character name and appearance/pets from WoW TCG/ switching realms).
...
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
July 05 2009 21:35 GMT
#159
lol suggesting they will charge you to watch replays with friends is stupid. Obviously it is on a list of things that they want to do - it's just not as high on that list as maybe it should be. By the time anyone wants to (or should...) run a starleague/tourny etc i imagine it will be patched in.
Self Help
Profile Joined July 2009
45 Posts
July 05 2009 21:48 GMT
#160
People are just scared of the newer battle.net to have a ton of must have features that everyone would love to have but would cost them money.

Really I just think the RP department for blizzard is doing a horrible job at keeping the communities happy, as them seem to word their statements and interviews in the worst way possible, or at least the communities look for the worst way to take it.
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