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Color Blindness and the Red Nuke Dot. - Page 5
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wo0py
Netherlands922 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
Your examples are poor because the "adaptions" made in those cases wouldn't equalize the playing field, they'd tip it in the other direction. An option to change the nuke dot from Red to Purple benefits 10% of the male population (and like 0.4% of the female population, lucky bastards lol) while having 0 impact on anyone else. Your line of reasoning is pretty counter-productive IMO. Yeah, I can't donate enough money to feed all of africa, but that doesn't mean I can't spot the homeless guy I meet on the street a few bucks. Blizzard can't cater very much to people without arms, but they can cater to those partially colourblind. | ||
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
On March 22 2009 08:24 wo0py wrote: i dont get it. blizzard could implement this feature. but there are so many other things one can be disabled with.. i don't even think blizz is thinking about it. i don't sleep better when i think: well at least the colourblind can see the dots now. thanks blizz for making my day. and as i said earlier this topic. there are so many things ppl can't do. what if you broke your arm and you can't play baseball, would they let you in with an robotic ball gun in your left arm? or if you have a disformed body and what to do competition diving. they wouldn't give you an aerodinamic suit right? its a disabliity. but i really don't think its such a fuss. every one has disabilities. some can't handle pressure, some can't play hours and hours to train and others can't focus games longer then 30 minutes. i don't think blizzard should implement this. just because it is whine imo. and i don't mean this to spit on the disabled. because i would be spitting on everybody, myself included. but maybe its just my opinion that not everything is worth mentioning and worth adapting for. How can you be so blind as to the actual pros/cons situation at hand. This is a completely different situation from someone getting a robotic arm, or any of the other absurd examples you gave. In those examples, if the person gets what you suggest, they have an advantage over everyone else. In the color blind situation, if blizzard fixes it, color blind people don't have an advantage over non-color blind people, instead it levels the playing ground. Everyone is even. You think it's whine? This is a condition which affects 10% of males, gives them a disadvantage at the game based on something they were born with (aka has nothing to do with skill), is EASILY fixable, and the fix doesn't hurt the rest of gamers. Clearly blizzard cares (rightfully so), since people have said that wc3 has a color blind feature, and you will notice that in the upcoming 3.1.0 patch for world of warcraft, the patch notes say there will be a color blind feature in the options. I don't even know why I bother typing all this out to an inconsiderate prick like you; you probably won't even ever come back to read responses to the thread since you obviously didn't read the thread before replying anyways. | ||
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SoulMarine
United States586 Posts
/facepalm I'm sorry, but that is a little ignorant. I think a color changer would level the playing field. "i dont get it. blizzard could implement this feature. but there are so many other things one can be disabled with.. i don't even think blizz is thinking about it. i don't sleep better when i think: well at least the colourblind can see the dots now. thanks blizz for making my day. and as i said earlier this topic. there are so many things ppl can't do. what if you broke your arm and you can't play baseball, would they let you in with an robotic ball gun in your left arm? or if you have a disformed body and what to do competition diving. they wouldn't give you an aerodinamic suit right? its a disabliity. but i really don't think its such a fuss. every one has disabilities. some can't handle pressure, some can't play hours and hours to train and others can't focus games longer then 30 minutes. i don't think blizzard should implement this. just because it is whine imo. and i don't mean this to spit on the disabled. because i would be spitting on everybody, myself included. but maybe its just my opinion that not everything is worth mentioning and worth adapting for." Most ignorant post here. How can you be so blind? Yes, there are certain cases like the diver, but you cant do anything about that to make it even. In this case, you can. Why wouldnt they? How is it whine? and most of all, why the fuck would you care? It doesnt affect you clearly. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On March 22 2009 09:04 CharlieMurphy wrote: Next you CBs will want the player colors red and green changed or removed too? What about the Blue/yellow CBs? I suppose we should get rid of those too? Like where does it end? It's not their responsibility to fix your problems. Don't you have some SB glasses or some CB program that filters the entire screen? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man | ||
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R3condite
Korea (South)1541 Posts
also most krns rn't colorblind because we r a pretty homogeneous country and that gene was nvr in our gene pool to begin with... that and we used to have a thing against disabled ppl till pretty recently... it's not like america where the country looks out for the disabled, if u lost ur legs in america u could probably still get a kik ass job that didn't really require the use of legs and u might actually even get a kik ass job that requires the use of legs (prosthetic) but in korea... that ain't happening On March 21 2009 06:24 Klockan3 wrote: Actually roughly 10% of the gamer population are colour blind, you could just as well say that the US players are a small minority and therefore you shouldn't have any dedicated Blizzard servers since you don't got any pro players anyway and therefore don't need the ping etc. erm u mean 10% of the population, not gamer population... gamer population may have lower or higher numbers due to the fact that there's an extra variable present (i.e. they play lot of games) | ||
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
On March 22 2009 09:04 CharlieMurphy wrote: Next you CBs will want the player colors red and green changed or removed too? What about the Blue/yellow CBs? I suppose we should get rid of those too? Like where does it end? It's not their responsibility to fix your problems. Don't you have some SB glasses or some CB program that filters the entire screen? This is like the gay marriage argument. "Where will it end? Soon we will have people marrying animals!" It's absurd. First of all, like we have repeated, approximately 10% of males have some degree of color blindness. Last I checked, over 99% of color blind people are red-green color blind, so it makes quite a bit of sense to cater to the red-green color blind people. Besides which, if you allow people to choose the colors themselves, you cater to everyone while still not having any disadvantages to non-colorblind people. No, special glasses to help with color blindness are tinted red and make everything look absurdly stupid. They cause eye strain, give headaches, and while they allow you to distinguish between red and green, everything looks really retarded as a result. No, I do not know of any CB program, and I'm not going to retint my entire screen so that I don't get to see any red colors just because you're so selfish that you're unwilling for blizzard to spend 2 seconds to fix a simple problem that won't affect you. It's not their responsibility to fix our problems? Actually, they're the ones selling a product to us, the consumers. I'd say that if I were a company selling a product, and 10% of my consumers wanted a change that takes virtually no effort and doesn't affect the rest of the consumers, I'd have to be completely braindead to not make the change. | ||
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-orb-
United States5770 Posts
On March 22 2009 09:17 R3condite wrote: erm if i remember correctly the dot in SC is replaced by a huge assed circle in SC2 and it even moves (eyes detect movement better than color difference) soo i don't u'll have a problem also most krns rn't colorblind because we r a pretty homogeneous country and that gene was nvr in our gene pool to begin with... that and we used to have a thing against disabled ppl till pretty recently... it's not like america where the country looks out for the disabled, if u lost ur legs in america u could probably still get a kik ass job that didn't really require the use of legs and u might actually even get a kik ass job that requires the use of legs (prosthetic) but in korea... that ain't happening erm u mean 10% of the population, not gamer population... gamer population may have lower or higher numbers due to the fact that there's an extra variable present (i.e. they play lot of games) 1: learn some grammar and take the time to spell before writing a long stupid post 2: No, the dot wasn't replaced by a huge ass circle, read the fucking thread you dumb fuck (I'm sorry for being so hostile but you're like the 4th person to say this... read the fucking thread before posting) 3: Good for you, most koreans aren't color blind, whoopdie fuckin do. Do you want a medal? Do you want an award for not having a genetic disability that isn't the fault of the person with it? Would you walk up to someone that had no leg from birth and laugh in his/her face and say "haha our country is better than yours because this doesn't happen!" If not, shut the fuck up, thanks. 4: Having a thing against disabled people is not something to brag about. 5: You're suggesting that color blind people play less games in order for the 10% to not translate to 10% of male gamers. Provide evidence for this (you won't find any because it's untrue) or shut the fuck up. GTFO racist, thanks | ||
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Dark.Carnival
United States5095 Posts
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On March 22 2009 09:04 CharlieMurphy wrote: Next you CBs will want the player colors red and green changed or removed too? What about the Blue/yellow CBs? I suppose we should get rid of those too? Like where does it end? It's not their responsibility to fix your problems. Don't you have some SB glasses or some CB program that filters the entire screen? No, simply make ally colours not red/green or make you able to choose player colours yourself. Stop trolling/being a retard. | ||
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
On March 22 2009 08:38 -orb- wrote: How can you be so blind as to the actual pros/cons situation at hand. lol I see what you did there. | ||
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G0dly
United States450 Posts
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Archerofaiur
United States4101 Posts
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
On March 22 2009 08:24 wo0py wrote: WE NEED A COLOR PICKER FOR THE DOT + Show Spoiler + evanthebouncy convinced me+ Show Spoiler + yes, he made me do it. Yet I don't think I've convinced you some how. Your original post was exactly the line of argument I countered, so I was bit pissed off that you made that remark after a counter_argument is established, and not addressing it. | ||
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AttackZerg
United States7453 Posts
On March 22 2009 10:01 FrozenArbiter wrote: No, simply make ally colours not red/green or make you able to choose player colours yourself. Stop trolling/being a retard. How sad is it when a site veteran is shitty up the site worse then the people who are regulars in the sc2 section. CM stop acting like an idiot. Didn't you just get off a mouth ban for acting this stupid before? | ||
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Mooga
United States575 Posts
Changing the colors of your screen, however, would not affect the person who wants to camouflage his nuke. Because, even though the all of the colors on the screen might change, the contrast between the nuke dot and the rest of the colors would not change. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
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