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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 17 2012 19:43 GMT
#281
On January 18 2012 04:17 Gyro_SC2 wrote:
I think im colorblind, I never see DT.

I feel like I should scroll through this thread and troll every fool like this one.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
oanraduk
Profile Joined October 2011
9 Posts
January 17 2012 19:46 GMT
#282
Why don't you just complain to Blizzard Customer Service that your nuke dot is cloaked.

User was warned for this post
Kolvacs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1203 Posts
January 17 2012 19:48 GMT
#283
I am (like a lot of people) red/green colorblind. I didn't have much trouble in BW, being able to see the nuke dot. But, in SC2 it is extremely hard for myself to be able to quickly spot a nuke. I generally have to scan over my bases two to three times to spot a nuke. The argument that "you should just listen to it" is completely arrogant. If you do not have a color blindness then you shouldn't be saying stupid shit like that.

Similar things happen to me in League of Legends with certain abilities from champions. Luckily, in that case... Riot (officially) added a Red/Green colorblind mode which is awesome!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
January 17 2012 19:53 GMT
#284
On January 18 2012 04:46 oanraduk wrote:
Why don't you just complain to Blizzard Customer Service that your nuke dot is cloaked.

Wow, a negative comment that is also positive lol- actually, that is a really good idea. There's nothing tl can do about this.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Befree
Profile Joined April 2010
695 Posts
January 17 2012 19:56 GMT
#285
That's nice that LoL is now implimenting it. I have to imagine it won't be long until SC2 impliments it. WoW has had color blind support for a while.

It's a design flaw and not a very difficult one to fix. It's rather emberassing that a company like Blizzard has not yet fixed this issue.

This is kind of one of those sad threads, though, where you realize how many ignorant assholes visit the website. But also positive in that many also stepped up to support color blind support. I think they did a good job pointing out the abursidity of the other's attempts at reasoning, so I'll abstain from that argument.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 21:38:32
January 17 2012 20:00 GMT
#286
On January 18 2012 04:12 dacimvrl wrote:
Deuteranomaly, caused by a similar shift in the green retinal receptors, is by far the most common type of color vision deficiency, mildly affecting red–green hue discrimination in 5% of males. It is hereditary and sex-linked.[8]

directly from Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness

1. Ppl need to stop pulling *stats/facts* out of their asses.

2. Other types of color-blindness are not affected, because the contrast of green and red..etc. are still pretty strong.

3. Changing the color to purple or colors will affect ppl with Violet-blind condition.

4. This is like asking blizzard to have an option for those with hearing loss. It's a far more common condition than deuteranomaly..etc., mind you. And I am pretty sure most of them dealt with it by changing the options on their end AKA turn the volume up.

5. Adjust your screen calibration, the color saturation and gamma on your end, pblm solved.

Just to note this person disagrees with me but is not a fool, these are good points. I don't want anyone telling me I am just calling anyone with a differing opinion a fool, As I'm not colorblind (actually have unusually sharp eyes) I don't know if this^ would work for them.

Edit: clarification.

There is Blizzard making it go red purple blue purple and who wants to ruin ALL of the colors gamma etc. Making this^ post wrong but not foolish.

Edit: put why I still disagree with smart one.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
perestain
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany308 Posts
January 17 2012 23:21 GMT
#287
On January 15 2012 11:39 Indifferent_century wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2009 02:56 nttea wrote:
this is my last reply.. was stupid of me to even start getting involved. Most colorblind people will have trouble seeing the dot but CAN see it.


But some absaloutly cant see it on certain materials, as in I have actaully gone into a replays where nukes were being fired and look at the viewpoint of the person that it was being casted on.


See this image?
see the number?
Color blind people cant, in that they completely cant. Its not difficult its IMPOSIBLE, i even have to take the word of the website that there even is a number.

[image loading]

Given no disadvatage at all to non color blind people why would you opose this at all.


You can open this in a picture editor and increase the saturation and/or play around with the color balance. Eventually I was able to see the number. But i guess its different for everyone.

For the red dot thing, I've never seen one, didn't even know one was supposed to see it. I always guessed where the nuke might be going down, moved some units away and it usually did the job. It would be nice to see it in advance, though 99% of the time its either the worker-line or your main army anyways. Good thing terrans so far don't predict colorblindness and put the nuke where you are likely to retreat to with all your stuff...


No matter how hot it gets, sooner or later there's a cool breeze coming in.
XChoke
Profile Joined November 2011
Australia45 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 01:25:54
January 18 2012 01:19 GMT
#288
On January 18 2012 04:12 dacimvrl wrote:
Deuteranomaly, caused by a similar shift in the green retinal receptors, is by far the most common type of color vision deficiency, mildly affecting red–green hue discrimination in 5% of males. It is hereditary and sex-linked.[8]

directly from Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness

1. Ppl need to stop pulling *stats/facts* out of their asses.

2. Other types of color-blindness are not affected, because the contrast of green and red..etc. are still pretty strong.

3. Changing the color to purple or colors will affect ppl with Violet-blind condition.

4. This is like asking blizzard to have an option for those with hearing loss. It's a far more common condition than deuteranomaly..etc., mind you. And I am pretty sure most of them dealt with it by changing the options on their end AKA turn the volume up.

5. Adjust your screen calibration, the color saturation and gamma on your end, pblm solved.



This is why I recommend having Ally/Enemy colour settings that are customizable and include the minimap as well. you can already play custom games against the PC and set all the colours - just extend that to apply to ladder and teams just using Ally/Enemy.

1 - I agree, and I think that applies to your post as well.
2 - Everyone is different and everyone gets affected to varying degrees - having customization resolves this issue for most people. If in doubt I think you should see point 1.
3 - See point to 2.
4 - They do - it's called notifications on the left and the right of the screen for stuff like buildings complete etc. The big minimap exploding with boxes when you are attacked are all examples of visual things they've implemented.
5 - It's all relative - you still lose out and cannot get it correctly.

I'll add a counter point to this thread in general:
- People that don't have a problem should not make bigotory comments.
There is no imbalance...only weakness.
Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
January 18 2012 01:25 GMT
#289
thats really interesting how you can't see that from being colorblind and sucks as well. At least you can see the ghost right?!
Check out my guide to mechanics http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319876
wattabeast
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States957 Posts
January 18 2012 01:42 GMT
#290
On January 18 2012 10:25 Br3ezy wrote:
thats really interesting how you can't see that from being colorblind and sucks as well. At least you can see the ghost right?!

Yeah I can see the ghost at least.
:O
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
January 18 2012 02:11 GMT
#291
Dunno whos arguing against this but it's fairly primitive of blizzard to disclude at the very least a color blind feature. It doesn't affect anyone who isn't color blind, and color blind players are disadvantaged without it. Not that I've stated anything new, I'm merely content to add another supportive opinion.
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