Color Blindness and the Red Nuke Dot. - Page 14

itiswhatitis

United States136 Posts

January 17 2012 18:11 GMT

#261

On January 18 2012 03:02 chestnutcc wrote:
You can hear the nuke as it comes closer to the target, the whooshing sound gets louder. It also gives plenty of time to react.

Are you joking right now? You really think colorblind people just need to LISTEN HARDER to spot nukes?

chestnutcc

India429 Posts

January 17 2012 18:24 GMT

#262

Use headphones, I never see the dot either.

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chestnutcc

India429 Posts

January 17 2012 18:25 GMT

#263

Son, everyone should just listen to nukes. Its the easiest way to zone them out. Just swing about the minimap till a slight whooshing fills up your ears as you move over an area, bam, nuke spotted. And unless the terran is nuking dead space, the obvious nuke choices should be... obvious.

BearStorm

United States795 Posts

January 17 2012 18:29 GMT

#264

On January 18 2012 03:25 chestnutcc wrote:
Son, everyone should just listen to nukes. Its the easiest way to zone them out. Just swing about the minimap till a slight whooshing fills up your ears as you move over an area, bam, nuke spotted. And unless the terran is nuking dead space, the obvious nuke choices should be... obvious.

Interesting. I never knew this. Listening will help a player move detectors/scan, but I don't think it would be as effective as being able to see the red dot for discerning ground zero.

chestnutcc

India429 Posts

January 17 2012 18:32 GMT

#265

Nuke radius is enormous. Zoning it down to the point does nothing, since you have to pick up and run and buildings cant run.

bnanaPEEL

Canada138 Posts

January 17 2012 18:32 GMT

#266

I'm red-green colour blind to but probably to a lesser extent to most. I was able to see the SC:BW nuke dot perfectly fine, but in SC2 I really have to focus to see it. Sometimes, even though I know where the nuke is (as in watching a replay), it still takes a considerable amount of time before I can focus on it.

Unkie

Denmark47 Posts

January 17 2012 18:32 GMT

#267

Being somewhat red-green colourblind as well I support this. However, I don't think the nuke is the biggest problem. As others have said, the minimap colours need to be customizable - the red and green colour scheme is really hard to deal with sometimes. For instance, I was playing a pvz vs a friend of mine on shattered temple, where he made a nydus worm just behind my mineral line, but even when I consciously looked at the minimap in that area I couldn't see it. I enjoy the jungle/gras tileset, because I prefer lighter maps as opposed to darker maps, but with almost all of the minimap being green and ally colour being a brighter green it can become very hard to distinguish small areas of enermy red on the map.

Vxu

Canada41 Posts

January 17 2012 18:38 GMT

#268

I've never been able to see the dot. But I'm pretty severely colour blind. I hadn't really thought of it as an issue worth fixing, but it makes total sense.

BearStorm

United States795 Posts

January 17 2012 18:39 GMT

#269

On January 18 2012 03:32 chestnutcc wrote:
Nuke radius is enormous. Zoning it down to the point does nothing, since you have to pick up and run and buildings cant run.

Knowing exactly where the dot is can help tell where the ghost is. There are positions where a ghost can fire a nuke across some kind of terrain obstruction. Knowing the location of the ghost can allow a player to judge whether they can kill the ghost in time. It also lets you know exactly what you need to evacuate. This is very important when someone tries to break a tank line with nukes and bio. You need to know how many tanks you can leave sieged to cover the retreat.

chestnutcc

India429 Posts

January 17 2012 18:51 GMT

#270

How does knowing the center of a circle help pinpoint a point on its circumference? (Okay strictly speaking its needed but you know what I mean, with no other information) And note that the ghost's range is even larger than the nuke radius. Map to map, there will be self evident positions to nuke from and to nuke.

dacimvrl

Vatican City State582 Posts

January 17 2012 19:12 GMT

#271

Deuteranomaly, caused by a similar shift in the green retinal receptors, is by far the most common type of color vision deficiency, mildly affecting red–green hue discrimination in 5% of males. It is hereditary and sex-linked.[8]

directly from Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness

1. Ppl need to stop pulling *stats/facts* out of their asses.

2. Other types of color-blindness are not affected, because the contrast of green and red..etc. are still pretty strong.

3. Changing the color to purple or colors will affect ppl with Violet-blind condition.

4. This is like asking blizzard to have an option for those with hearing loss. It's a far more common condition than deuteranomaly..etc., mind you. And I am pretty sure most of them dealt with it by changing the options on their end AKA turn the volume up.

5. Adjust your screen calibration, the color saturation and gamma on your end, pblm solved.

dacimvrl

Vatican City State582 Posts

January 17 2012 19:15 GMT

#272

On January 18 2012 03:51 chestnutcc wrote:
How does knowing the center of a circle help pinpoint a point on its circumference? (Okay strictly speaking its needed but you know what I mean, with no other information) And note that the ghost's range is even larger than the nuke radius. Map to map, there will be self evident positions to nuke from and to nuke.

in terms of starcraft and nuke, it does. It narrows down the area where you should search and with the terrain in mind, you could determine where the ghost is, logically.

Gyro_SC2

Canada540 Posts

January 17 2012 19:17 GMT

#273

I think im colorblind, I never see DT.

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Philosophy

186 Posts

January 17 2012 19:21 GMT

#274

In most cases, you wont see the dot anyways. Just press space after you hear the nuke warning to jump to its location.

BearStorm

United States795 Posts

January 17 2012 19:26 GMT

#275

The thing is you DO have other information. Knowing where the dot is can help you deduce the location of the ghost based on the terrain and positioning of everything. How is this so hard to realize? You brought up a good point on listening for the nuke, but there is no way you can argue that it doesn't help to know the exact location of where the nuke will land.

caradoc

Canada3022 Posts

January 17 2012 19:29 GMT

#276

On January 15 2012 13:13 ELA wrote:

Show nested quote +

I honestly dont see the number here.. What number is it? Just out of curiosity

Other people have posted what number it is, but I downloaded the pic, enlarged it, then just highlighted the outline of the number in black to show those that can't see it. Knowing what number it is is one thing, but I know if it was me, the curiousity of what it looked like would kill me

I'm not colourblind, and so to me, basically, the '6' is tinted in greens and brown-greens and yellow-greens rather than in pinks/yellows/reds.

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dani`

Netherlands2402 Posts

January 17 2012 19:32 GMT

#277

On January 18 2012 03:32 Unkie wrote:
Being somewhat red-green colourblind as well I support this. However, I don't think the nuke is the biggest problem. As others have said, the minimap colours need to be customizable - the red and green colour scheme is really hard to deal with sometimes. For instance, I was playing a pvz vs a friend of mine on shattered temple, where he made a nydus worm just behind my mineral line, but even when I consciously looked at the minimap in that area I couldn't see it. I enjoy the jungle/gras tileset, because I prefer lighter maps as opposed to darker maps, but with almost all of the minimap being green and ally colour being a brighter green it can become very hard to distinguish small areas of enermy red on the map.

Don't forget you can turn off the terrain on the minimap, making it black instead of tileset colors (ALT+T).

chestnutcc

India429 Posts

January 17 2012 19:38 GMT

#278

But listening for the nuke will tell you where its going to land, since there should be a self evident target there. You will need detection anyhow, so once your detector reaches the site, the ghost should be simple to find. I agree with you that I was a bit off when I said it doesnt help at all, but basically, the target area is v large, and pinpointing the area is paramount, after that the exact location should be easy to guess.

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

January 17 2012 19:40 GMT

#279

On March 21 2009 18:45 teapot wrote:
Perhaps you should lobby Blizzard to have a separate server/ladder for disableds.

Fool^. Fool fool fool. I hope this color change mod was implemented, finding this old topic made me a Jinro fan.

Zedders

Canada450 Posts

January 17 2012 19:40 GMT

#280

I've never been able to see the red dot among some other things like differentiate zerg units when they are stacked. The similar colours of the zerg (brownish colour) looks so much like the color red, or orange depending on their team color. I can sometimes not differentiate between many things it's all jsut a blur of reddish brown stuff. I have good vision so it's not that problem.

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