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Mooga
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States575 Posts
March 22 2009 02:28 GMT
#101
That's exactly what I was trying to say.
CaptainPlatypus
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States852 Posts
March 22 2009 02:29 GMT
#102
Seriously, Blizzard should just implement a color-changing option menu, it would take maybe a couple hundred lines of additional code max. No reason not to, if it's going to drastically improve the game for 10% of the people playing it. Not just for the nuke dot, but for things like allied/unallied colors (LOL LET'S MAKE THEM RED AND GREEN) too.

For all you retarded fucks who have an objection to this being done, set your computer to interpret red as green (or vice versa) for a while and see how much you like it. Making things easier for people is good.

Of course, I also think SC2 should have things like recordable macros (because I hate that "progaming" is about who clicks fastest, and I have terrible speed myself), so feel free to take the above with a grain of salt.
Mooga
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States575 Posts
March 22 2009 02:44 GMT
#103
On March 22 2009 11:29 CaptainPlatypus wrote:
For all you retarded fucks who have an objection to this being done, set your computer to interpret red as green (or vice versa) for a while and see how much you like it.


I doubt that red-green colorblind people would object to having an option to turn the color red into purple.
Starparty
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Sweden1963 Posts
March 22 2009 04:11 GMT
#104
On March 21 2009 04:50 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2009 02:31 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
You're a small minority

Blind people have trouble seeing the dot too.


are you dumb
you're dumb
there's more colorblind people than there are mac users
yeah, let's not make a mac version of the game


this made my day lol
The artist formerly known as Starparty
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
March 22 2009 04:15 GMT
#105
I can't believe this suggestion is meetings this degree of resistance.
returns upon momentous occasions.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 06:59:35
March 22 2009 06:52 GMT
#106
On March 21 2009 04:50 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2009 02:31 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
You're a small minority

Blind people have trouble seeing the dot too.


are you dumb
you're dumb
there's more colorblind people than there are mac users
yeah, let's not make a mac version of the game

Theres hundreds of millions of people who can't afford a computer to run the game and others who can't even afford the game. Based on your logic they should gut the graphics so these unfortunate people can have a good sc2 expierence.

Doesn't work that way. But that being said there's no negative side for them making it colorblind accessable unlike the example I gave. And the example you gave...

If they can make it more accessable for color blind people great. I have no problem with it. But that doesnt mean I'm dumb for saying he's a small minority.

He is.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 09:58:19
March 22 2009 06:55 GMT
#107
On March 22 2009 13:11 Starparty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2009 04:50 JeeJee wrote:
On March 21 2009 02:31 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
You're a small minority

Blind people have trouble seeing the dot too.


are you dumb
you're dumb
there's more colorblind people than there are mac users
yeah, let's not make a mac version of the game


this made my day lol

Did I say they shouldn't do it? No.


I'm all for it. It doesn't affect me any. But notice you don't see a whole lot of other colorblind people chiming in saying they have the same problem, because there aren't very many of them.


On the other hand, I think having customizable race colors is much much more important.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
March 22 2009 07:05 GMT
#108
I don't want to name names, but some of the posters here are absolutely disgusting.

1. Nobody asked to be born colourblind. If you are too lazy to practice and you can't play it properly, that's your fault. If you are colourblind, it's not your fault, and you shouldn't be disadvantaged. You gonna tell me that not having legs and being too lazy to climb stairs are the same things?

2. Starcraft is a game of skill. Being born colourblind should not disqualify one from playing it because colourblindness shouldn't affect any of the skills needed to play the game.

3. The fix is so unbelievably simple that there's no reason not to do it. Buildings cannot cater for ALL disabilities. However, it doesn't cost much to install a ramp. Therefore they do it. We're not asking for massive changes so that every man, woman and child can play the game.

I think being too lazy to read and think about the OP should be banworthy.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 22 2009 07:07 GMT
#109
On March 22 2009 15:55 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 13:11 Starparty wrote:
On March 21 2009 04:50 JeeJee wrote:
On March 21 2009 02:31 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
You're a small minority

Blind people have trouble seeing the dot too.


are you dumb
you're dumb
there's more colorblind people than there are mac users
yeah, let's not make a mac version of the game


this made my day lol

Did I say they shouldn't do it? No.


I'm all for it. It doesn't affect me any. But notice you don't see a whole lot of other colorblind people chiming in saying they have the same problem, because there aren't very many of them.


actually you did say they shouldn't do it. OP asked whether he was in a small minority and therefore should just suck it up, and you replied in kind.

The stats on the colorblind people were already given many times over. It's not that rare.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 07:16:58
March 22 2009 07:12 GMT
#110
On March 22 2009 16:07 JeeJee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 15:55 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On March 22 2009 13:11 Starparty wrote:
On March 21 2009 04:50 JeeJee wrote:
On March 21 2009 02:31 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
You're a small minority

Blind people have trouble seeing the dot too.


are you dumb
you're dumb
there's more colorblind people than there are mac users
yeah, let's not make a mac version of the game


this made my day lol

Did I say they shouldn't do it? No.


I'm all for it. It doesn't affect me any. But notice you don't see a whole lot of other colorblind people chiming in saying they have the same problem, because there aren't very many of them.


actually you did say they shouldn't do it. OP asked whether he was in a small minority and therefore should just suck it up, and you replied in kind.

The stats on the colorblind people were already given many times over. It's not that rare.

10% of the total pop is a small minority. I could be a lame ass like you and post a wiki or dictionary link explaining what small minority is, but I won't.

Also you can put words in my mouth if you want but I never said them. I say what I mean.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 07:16:22
March 22 2009 07:14 GMT
#111
On March 22 2009 16:05 The Storyteller wrote:
I don't want to name names, but some of the posters here are absolutely disgusting.

1. Nobody asked to be born colourblind. If you are too lazy to practice and you can't play it properly, that's your fault. If you are colourblind, it's not your fault, and you shouldn't be disadvantaged. You gonna tell me that not having legs and being too lazy to climb stairs are the same things?

2. Starcraft is a game of skill. Being born colourblind should not disqualify one from playing it because colourblindness shouldn't affect any of the skills needed to play the game.

3. The fix is so unbelievably simple that there's no reason not to do it. Buildings cannot cater for ALL disabilities. However, it doesn't cost much to install a ramp. Therefore they do it. We're not asking for massive changes so that every man, woman and child can play the game.

I think being too lazy to read and think about the OP should be banworthy.

Actually they do it because there's a federal law thanks to the ADA passed during FDR's administration But your point remains equally valid.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 07:41:01
March 22 2009 07:20 GMT
#112
On March 22 2009 16:12 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 16:07 JeeJee wrote:
On March 22 2009 15:55 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On March 22 2009 13:11 Starparty wrote:
On March 21 2009 04:50 JeeJee wrote:
On March 21 2009 02:31 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
You're a small minority

Blind people have trouble seeing the dot too.


are you dumb
you're dumb
there's more colorblind people than there are mac users
yeah, let's not make a mac version of the game


this made my day lol

Did I say they shouldn't do it? No.


I'm all for it. It doesn't affect me any. But notice you don't see a whole lot of other colorblind people chiming in saying they have the same problem, because there aren't very many of them.


actually you did say they shouldn't do it. OP asked whether he was in a small minority and therefore should just suck it up, and you replied in kind.

The stats on the colorblind people were already given many times over. It's not that rare.

10% of the total pop is a small minority. I could be a lame ass like you and post a wiki or dictionary link explaining what small minority is, but I won't.

Also you can put words in my mouth if you want but I never said them. I say what I mean.



ok, then plase explain what you meant by your "blind people can't see the dot too". how was that relevant at all?

and as for your "look, there isn't a lot of colorblind people that are chiming in on this issue, clearly it's pretty rare" ...
in this very thread, there's about 50 unique posters, and 7 have explicitly identified themselves as colorblind (whether partial or otherwise), several more have mentioned friends of theirs. more may have just not mentioned it.

well, i think the discussion has run its course
especially with robo's post below, which is quite reassuring.

thanks in advance, blizzard :-)
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Robodude
Profile Joined May 2007
United States52 Posts
March 22 2009 07:37 GMT
#113
The good news is that Blizz seems to be aware of the situation. If you take a look at the *gasp* WoW PTR Patch Notes: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/patchnotes/test-realm-patchnotes.html

You'll notice the following:
A new Color Blind option is available under the Interface panel.

I'm partially color blind too and most of the time it sucks. I got teased a lot in elementary school art class 'cause I'd draw red grass and stuff if I had to use those color pencils that didn't have the name of the color written on the side ^^
The Storyteller
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
Singapore2486 Posts
March 22 2009 07:44 GMT
#114
On March 22 2009 16:14 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 16:05 The Storyteller wrote:
I don't want to name names, but some of the posters here are absolutely disgusting.

1. Nobody asked to be born colourblind. If you are too lazy to practice and you can't play it properly, that's your fault. If you are colourblind, it's not your fault, and you shouldn't be disadvantaged. You gonna tell me that not having legs and being too lazy to climb stairs are the same things?

2. Starcraft is a game of skill. Being born colourblind should not disqualify one from playing it because colourblindness shouldn't affect any of the skills needed to play the game.

3. The fix is so unbelievably simple that there's no reason not to do it. Buildings cannot cater for ALL disabilities. However, it doesn't cost much to install a ramp. Therefore they do it. We're not asking for massive changes so that every man, woman and child can play the game.

I think being too lazy to read and think about the OP should be banworthy.

Actually they do it because there's a federal law thanks to the ADA passed during FDR's administration But your point remains equally valid.


*grin* I'm just going to cater to wisecracking people like you because it doesn't cost much and say that the law was passed because it didn't cost much and was therefore feasible. No law was passed to require buildings to have multilingual lift operators who also knew sign language in order to cater for people of all disabilities from all countries.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 22 2009 08:59 GMT
#115
On March 22 2009 09:27 -orb- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 09:17 R3condite wrote:
erm if i remember correctly the dot in SC is replaced by a huge assed circle in SC2 and it even moves (eyes detect movement better than color difference) soo i don't u'll have a problem

also most krns rn't colorblind because we r a pretty homogeneous country and that gene was nvr in our gene pool to begin with...

that and we used to have a thing against disabled ppl till pretty recently...
it's not like america where the country looks out for the disabled, if u lost ur legs in america u could probably still get a kik ass job that didn't really require the use of legs and u might actually even get a kik ass job that requires the use of legs (prosthetic) but in korea... that ain't happening

On March 21 2009 06:24 Klockan3 wrote:
On March 21 2009 02:31 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
You're a small minority

Blind people have trouble seeing the dot too.

Actually roughly 10% of the gamer population are colour blind, you could just as well say that the US players are a small minority and therefore you shouldn't have any dedicated Blizzard servers since you don't got any pro players anyway and therefore don't need the ping etc.

erm u mean 10% of the population, not gamer population... gamer population may have lower or higher numbers due to the fact that there's an extra variable present (i.e. they play lot of games)


1: learn some grammar and take the time to spell before writing a long stupid post
2: No, the dot wasn't replaced by a huge ass circle, read the fucking thread you dumb fuck (I'm sorry for being so hostile but you're like the 4th person to say this... read the fucking thread before posting)
3: Good for you, most koreans aren't color blind, whoopdie fuckin do. Do you want a medal? Do you want an award for not having a genetic disability that isn't the fault of the person with it? Would you walk up to someone that had no leg from birth and laugh in his/her face and say "haha our country is better than yours because this doesn't happen!" If not, shut the fuck up, thanks.
4: Having a thing against disabled people is not something to brag about.
5: You're suggesting that color blind people play less games in order for the 10% to not translate to 10% of male gamers. Provide evidence for this (you won't find any because it's untrue) or shut the fuck up.

GTFO racist, thanks

Owned.
Peace~
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
March 22 2009 09:38 GMT
#116
Plus, it makes good business sense for Blizz to do this!
returns upon momentous occasions.
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 10:00:46
March 22 2009 09:50 GMT
#117
On March 22 2009 16:44 The Storyteller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 16:14 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On March 22 2009 16:05 The Storyteller wrote:
I don't want to name names, but some of the posters here are absolutely disgusting.

1. Nobody asked to be born colourblind. If you are too lazy to practice and you can't play it properly, that's your fault. If you are colourblind, it's not your fault, and you shouldn't be disadvantaged. You gonna tell me that not having legs and being too lazy to climb stairs are the same things?

2. Starcraft is a game of skill. Being born colourblind should not disqualify one from playing it because colourblindness shouldn't affect any of the skills needed to play the game.

3. The fix is so unbelievably simple that there's no reason not to do it. Buildings cannot cater for ALL disabilities. However, it doesn't cost much to install a ramp. Therefore they do it. We're not asking for massive changes so that every man, woman and child can play the game.

I think being too lazy to read and think about the OP should be banworthy.

Actually they do it because there's a federal law thanks to the ADA passed during FDR's administration But your point remains equally valid.


*grin* I'm just going to cater to wisecracking people like you because it doesn't cost much and say that the law was passed because it didn't cost much and was therefore feasible. No law was passed to require buildings to have multilingual lift operators who also knew sign language in order to cater for people of all disabilities from all countries.

More likely it was passed because the president had polio and was in a wheel chair but ok;)
And it passed the senate and house because the president was immensely popular having gotten the US out of the great depression and he was also a war time president.

Not only that but if you take into account all the changes that had to be made collectively in order to comply with the ADA it was immensely expensive But it DID provide a lot of jobs temporarily.

So no the law was not passed for the reason you listed, I think it's safe to say. Sorry, nothing beats a good ADA debate

I bet if we had a popular deaf president who didn't sign ASL and didnt know how to use an elevator we might see a law like that as well! For some reason though, I feel that's unlikely lol.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
March 22 2009 13:25 GMT
#118
while I think the majority of colorblind people are attention whores about it I don't see a reason not to include a way of changing the colors of certain things
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
March 22 2009 14:21 GMT
#119
On March 22 2009 18:38 HonestTea wrote:
Plus, it makes good business sense for Blizz to do this!


yeah they could write suitable for retards on the box.
seriously everyone who is against this you don't realize how fucking frustrating it is if that little red dot on the minimap sneaks in ur base and like 5 seconds later you realize it and OOPS reaver chillin in scv line
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
March 22 2009 15:16 GMT
#120
On March 22 2009 22:25 floor exercise wrote:
while I think the majority of colorblind people are attention whores about it I don't see a reason not to include a way of changing the colors of certain things


Yeah you try it and see how you like it, see if you start whining about it.

I'm a damned animator... my passion is art, and I'm fucked over with this stupid ass condition. How do you think that feels? Yeah, maybe I'm a bit of an attention whore about it, but I don't care, it's a bullshit condition that they should have come up with a fix for already
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
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