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Kong John
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark1020 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-21 10:01:28
March 21 2009 09:52 GMT
#61
arent the nuke dots like HUGE in SC2? I saw a pic with this huge red fountain on it, this may have been chanced but ill try find it anyway.

EDIT:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

If it looks like that there is no way you wont be able to see it, no matter how colorblind you are that thing will be obvious.

This may very well have been chanced though.
This is real life, where nerds must battle!
shasin
Profile Joined May 2005
Romania899 Posts
March 21 2009 10:01 GMT
#62
wow, good to see i still have my account from years ago. I don't think is fair for the opponent to see the dot, maybe tech to something that helps you get the idea on where the nuke is going to strike. The rush you feel when you hear the nuke message is all that matters, if you see the dot right away it screws up the gameplay imo.
Begone the fools that lead me - I need not to know
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
March 21 2009 10:53 GMT
#63
On March 21 2009 18:52 Kong John wrote:
arent the nuke dots like HUGE in SC2? I saw a pic with this huge red fountain on it, this may have been chanced but ill try find it anyway.

EDIT:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

If it looks like that there is no way you wont be able to see it, no matter how colorblind you are that thing will be obvious.

This may very well have been chanced though.


Read the thread before posting already-posted and wrong information please.

That is just the casting circle... aka it only shows it for the person casting nuke...
'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
March 21 2009 13:04 GMT
#64
I have the same problem as you have but i think being able to configure your enemies color is more important. shift-toggling to red sucks on jungle maps, can't see shit. I would rather toggle it to blue or white. You can do this shit since ages is fps so why not in sc2?
exeprime
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United Kingdom643 Posts
March 21 2009 13:28 GMT
#65
If someone said blizzard should make it possible to toggle between red and blue nuke dot simply because some people think red fucking sucks, there would be less trolling. Seriously, so much drama and so many people against something totally trivial that doesn't affect gameplay at all for someone that's not color-blind...

It would actually be more balanced, since like this a red player has a significant disadvantage vs. nuke (most people don't switch to green / red)
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
March 21 2009 13:49 GMT
#66
Holy shit, 1 in 10 men?

Count your blessings indeed.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 21 2009 14:39 GMT
#67
Toggle would be best, especially if you want to vary it up based on map, like blue on desert, red on ice, green on space, etc. (BW tile layouts)
Peace~
Da1d5
Profile Joined February 2009
United States18 Posts
March 21 2009 16:12 GMT
#68
I think it would be awesome if Blizzzard just included a color editor. Something that you could use just to change the shades of different colors. That would not only be good for the color blind, but I talked to some people and they agree that colors in general would be fun to play with.
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
March 21 2009 20:36 GMT
#69
I'm red/green colorblind and I think it would be wonderful if Blizz allowed a color changing scheme! For example, I could change the dot to white or yellow and I'd never have a problem spotting the nuke location.
nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
March 21 2009 21:03 GMT
#70
hahaha can't see red dots! you are such a genetically inferior being.
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7474 Posts
March 21 2009 21:09 GMT
#71
On March 22 2009 05:36 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
I'm red/green colorblind and I think it would be wonderful if Blizz allowed a color changing scheme! For example, I could change the dot to white or yellow and I'd never have a problem spotting the nuke location.

the problem with that is if your gonig to make it either white or yellow then it stands out far far more against all map schemes then red.

I don't think colorblind compatability should make it even harder then it already is too nuke ingame.

I think something like purple/brown/black/blue/lightblue would be a better balance. Otherwise anybody would be a damned fool to stay with red over white/yellow , which are unnatural colors for a sniper to be targeting either way.
-orb-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
March 21 2009 21:14 GMT
#72
On March 22 2009 06:03 nttea wrote:
hahaha can't see red dots! you are such a genetically inferior being.


'life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery'
how sad that sc2 has no shield battery :(
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
March 21 2009 21:21 GMT
#73
man this thread has kind of turned into a shitstorm. it's amazing how many people won't even spend a few seconds to put themselves in other people's shoes.

comments like these
On March 21 2009 18:45 teapot wrote:
Perhaps you should lobby Blizzard to have a separate server/ladder for disableds.

just make me shake my head.

i mean, i can see it from your point of view: you are not colorblind, so it is pointless for you, and think it would be a waste of time for blizzard. that's fine, but try being a little less self-centered for a moment, and see how putting an option to change the color of the dot will make the game a little better for the other 10%. would it kill you to try and think from someone else's point of view for a bit?

fwiw, i can see the dot very clearly in bw :-)
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Liquid`Ret
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Netherlands4518 Posts
March 21 2009 21:25 GMT
#74
I have slight colorblindless too, and I always wished that you could change the color of your opponent to wahtever color you want. `.`
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
March 21 2009 21:35 GMT
#75
On March 22 2009 06:09 AttackZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 05:36 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
I'm red/green colorblind and I think it would be wonderful if Blizz allowed a color changing scheme! For example, I could change the dot to white or yellow and I'd never have a problem spotting the nuke location.

the problem with that is if your gonig to make it either white or yellow then it stands out far far more against all map schemes then red.

I don't think colorblind compatability should make it even harder then it already is too nuke ingame.

I think something like purple/brown/black/blue/lightblue would be a better balance. Otherwise anybody would be a damned fool to stay with red over white/yellow , which are unnatural colors for a sniper to be targeting either way.

White - Snow, dust etcetc
Yellow - Badlands, grass in general, desert.

Red stands out more than almost any other colour..
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TheosEx
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States894 Posts
March 21 2009 21:37 GMT
#76
Minor color blindness is more common than people think. Actually, some of you might even have it and not know it. Someone on my Halo 3 team just found out he had it. We always wondered why he would accidentally shoot us sometimes.

There's no reason why an option to help people with this shouldn't be implemented. It's such an easy fix.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
March 21 2009 21:49 GMT
#77
On March 22 2009 06:37 TheosEx wrote:
Minor color blindness is more common than people think. Actually, some of you might even have it and not know it. Someone on my Halo 3 team just found out he had it. We always wondered why he would accidentally shoot us sometimes.

There's no reason why an option to help people with this shouldn't be implemented. It's such an easy fix.

Omg me and my girlfriend got into a heated argument about whether my flipflops were blue or brown (mixed with gray). I thought they were blue. I called my mom and asked her, she said blue. My housemate said black, no color. Her roommate said brown. We are still in conflict -_- It's either me or her, one of us is color-blind, as well as her roommate and my mom -_-
Peace~
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7474 Posts
March 21 2009 21:56 GMT
#78
On March 22 2009 06:37 TheosEx wrote:
Minor color blindness is more common than people think. Actually, some of you might even have it and not know it. Someone on my Halo 3 team just found out he had it. We always wondered why he would accidentally shoot us sometimes.

There's no reason why an option to help people with this shouldn't be implemented. It's such an easy fix.



My teamates in halo always wonder why I 'accidentally' shoot them also.... I can't wait to use this as an excuse =).

I'm not making fun of your friend, I'm just an ass in teamplay games!
Equaoh
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada427 Posts
March 21 2009 22:15 GMT
#79
I can't believe people are complaining about the advantage that a different coloured dot would give colour blind players.
repo_mech
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada15 Posts
March 21 2009 22:33 GMT
#80
CharlieMurphy's argument was already debunked but I just wanted to speak to this...

On March 21 2009 07:37 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Guy's argument was that there are more color blind than there are mac users. This is totally irrelevant. I could make an equally shitty argument about something equally as trivial.
And where did this stat of his come from anyways? It's totally heresay.


Firstly it's spelled hearsay (unless you meant heresy, either way the spelling was wrong), but more to the point you don't seem to know what the term means. What I would guess you are objecting to is the lack of a citation to support the claim by JeeJee or at least some added information which might attest to his/her particular qualifications to present this claim, but while this might effect the degree of credibility or reliability we assign to the claim in our view, it does not make the claim hearsay. Just an FYI.

As to the original post, I'll weigh in on the side of the sentiment expressed that given that this seems like a problem with a pretty easy solution for Blizzard, it would be the right thing to do (and probably good business sense as well) to offer a solution.








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