EPTI will be very amused as a low master Terran player by all the players who memorized their build orders to get an adept out exactly when the scouting reaper arrives have 3 seconds of terror before they figure out they need to adjust.
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Thaniri
1264 Posts
I will be very amused as a low master Terran player by all the players who memorized their build orders to get an adept out exactly when the scouting reaper arrives have 3 seconds of terror before they figure out they need to adjust. | ||
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Rodya
546 Posts
On January 17 2019 04:01 DomeGetta wrote: The warpgate change is HUGE in ZvP. Doesnt look like they considered this at all but scouting when it starts is basically the only sure way to be able to scout for the DT drop/twilight aggro timing. If they can start it 14 seconds later anyway that means the Zerg cannot know whether its SG first or not and will have to go fast lair every game no matter what. They need to make an adjustment to account for that for sure. Or maybe zergs could, you know, come up with a new strategy. | ||
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DomeGetta
480 Posts
On January 17 2019 12:21 Rodya wrote: Or maybe zergs could, you know, come up with a new strategy. Astounding. You'd think after multiple years in Lotv pro gamers might have done that if there was another way to hold...but look at that some shitter on TL just cracked the code. | ||
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Rodya
546 Posts
On January 17 2019 12:29 DomeGetta wrote: Astounding. You'd think after multiple years in Lotv pro gamers might have done that if there was another way to hold...but look at that some shitter on TL just cracked the code. There's this game called Starcraft: Brood War, you should maybe play it or read about it... anyway I don't think that any of these changes should have been made except maybe the BC nerf (and perhaps the tempest nerf). I don't know why Blizzard doesn't just revert all the changes made in the last year, possibly remove swarm hosts, and then fire the balance team and don't replace them. It would save them some money. | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On January 17 2019 12:19 Thaniri wrote: Adept build time increased by 3 seconds. I will be very amused as a low master Terran player by all the players who memorized their build orders to get an adept out exactly when the scouting reaper arrives have 3 seconds of terror before they figure out they need to adjust. it would be the same build time as a stalker, and you can already open stalker in pvt currently. also there is no build for "exactly when the reaper arrives" because maps are different sizes - if you're doing map specific builds on ladder then you're probably paying attention to the patches as well. so i don't really know what problem you think toss is going to have or what's amusing? when patches hit some people won't know and they'll continue doing outdated builds - doesn't that apply to all races and all patches? even in the current patch protoss generally knows how to micro probes against things like proxy reaper, which is the same exact situation ("uh oh, the reaper is early for my defense") idk i guess i just don't get your comment | ||
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geokilla
Canada8255 Posts
Either way, I liked the changes in the beginning of the post. But as I read more and more, I went what the fuck. Clearly they have no idea what they're doing. | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On January 17 2019 13:17 geokilla wrote: Wait Oracles being armoured means we're going to need more Marines to kill them right? why? (not saying you're wrong, but i don't understand why that would be the case?) | ||
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bela.mervado
Hungary415 Posts
On January 17 2019 13:17 geokilla wrote: Wait Oracles being armoured means we're going to need more Marines to kill them right? Either way, I liked the changes in the beginning of the post. But as I read more and more, I went what the fuck. Clearly they have no idea what they're doing. its not additional armor, it is armored tag. it means stalkers will be able to kill them easier. | ||
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brickrd
United States4894 Posts
On January 17 2019 13:36 bela.mervado wrote: its not additional armor, it is armored tag. it means stalkers will be able to kill them easier. it also means vikings will strip oracle shields by 3rd shot instead of 4th and kill it by 6th shot instead of 8th, and no terrans have mentioned that at all. it's kind of bizarre how few people seem interested in analyzing and admitting things that benefit them? idk, it's a strange mindset. | ||
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Spirit_HUN
24 Posts
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dummy1
420 Posts
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RealityTheGreat
China564 Posts
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Carminedust
487 Posts
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FFW_Rude
France10201 Posts
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AzAlexZ
Australia3303 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On January 17 2019 14:22 dummy1 wrote: There are all prerequisites to bring back blink stalkers all-in again. Not good. Ultralisk movement speed off creep it's a full load to go with mass ultra a-move. Not good. Nerf cyclone. Not good. It's a fragile cannon... already. Nydus Network/Nydus Worm buff. Not Good. Are we going to play cheese/all-in all year? It's seems like Team Balance had said, that they are want to balance late game. Where is it? Except that blink all-ins fell out of favor due to the time it now takes to research, plus the additional requirement of a robo and warp prism for reinforcements. Making it slightly cheaper doesn't change that. | ||
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agripsss
37 Posts
On January 17 2019 04:08 RogerChillingworth wrote: wait ultras will be able to run faster than stimmed bio off creep now? Does that even make sense? Feels silly, and i'm a zerg player. hahahahaha same | ||
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dummy1
420 Posts
On January 17 2019 16:57 Olli wrote: Except that blink all-ins fell out of favor due to the time it now takes to research, plus the additional requirement of a robo and warp prism for reinforcements. Making it slightly cheaper doesn't change that. This will definitely affect in TvP. What terran is supposed to do with it. Sit on main? | ||
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Avexyli
United States711 Posts
On January 17 2019 16:57 Olli wrote: Except that blink all-ins fell out of favor due to the time it now takes to research, plus the additional requirement of a robo and warp prism for reinforcements. Making it slightly cheaper doesn't change that. Don't forget maps cementing its fate as well. | ||
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On January 17 2019 17:06 dummy1 wrote: This will definitely affect in TvP. What terran is supposed to do with it. Sit on main? You do the exact same thing as before because it doesn't hit any earlier. | ||
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