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Morrissey
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
Germany55 Posts
October 28 2018 10:12 GMT
#21
thats crazy considering the english broadcast has 14 (!!!) talents. while korean has 0. would it have been so difficult to do 10-4 or something instead?
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Toua
Profile Joined February 2017
Denmark318 Posts
October 28 2018 10:12 GMT
#22
Did Crank not get flown out last year or did that not happend, because could they not have done that again. Plus why can they fly so many english casters but not one korean.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55573 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-28 10:14:39
October 28 2018 10:12 GMT
#23
On October 28 2018 19:01 thezanursic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2018 18:40 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 28 2018 18:38 DarkGamer wrote:
english is THE language all over the world.

it isn't

It is, just not in this context

It's the #3 language in the world

Not but seriously this is not great from Blizzard.
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RxMidnight
Profile Joined July 2014
United States251 Posts
October 28 2018 10:17 GMT
#24
Blizzard's casual disrespect for the scene that kept their esports relevant for years never ceases to amaze me.
DarkGamer
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany330 Posts
October 28 2018 10:23 GMT
#25
On October 28 2018 18:40 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2018 18:38 DarkGamer wrote:
english is THE language all over the world.

it isn't



in my experience if two people from different countrys meet they try to comunicate in english (or spanish) most of the time. also in companies the most spoken language is english. thats y i think so.

On October 28 2018 18:49 207aicila wrote:
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On October 28 2018 18:38 DarkGamer wrote:
I think it would be great for the koreans to have a korean caster team.

but on the other hand why cant the korean watch the english stream?
english is THE language all over the world.
there are players and spectators from all over the world whose first language isnt english too.
im from germany and i dont demand a german stream.



Your point isn't altogether that bad - although I'm strongly on the side of "WTF Blizzard" on this one - but here are some things to consider as to why the comparison between Korea and Germany is bad here:

Korea has always had a disproportionately high number of StarCraft fans, players and pros compared to any other country, and clearly cared enough about the game to organise large grassroots tournaments and put the game on TV for years. Even with SC2 being nowhere near as popular as BW in Korea, they're still the single biggest national scene. Remember that when you're comparing viewership between regional events you're comparing Korea alone vs a dozen or two Western countries - and they are still comparable. Blizzard clearly understand this since they've given Korea its own WCS region since the inception of the WCS system.

Even with BlizzCon being an event that always draws a lot of outsider eyeballs and not just strictly regular fans, it still seems stupid and disrespectful for them to exclude the one nation with the biggest scene and culture of their game, even if that's maybe only 10-15-20% of the audience.

Also, one more thing, here in Europe we tend to learn English en masse from a very young age and many of us are constantly surrounded by it in media and culture. In my experience East Asian countries tend to be a lot weaker in terms of how well-versed the average citizen is at speaking English. I'm not educated enough on the subject to tell you why, but it's the reality of the situation.



agree with most of your points. just wanted to point out that its not naturally that a country can demand a first language stream.
but reading through some arguments like yours i also think there should have been a korean stream. especially if your consider this:

On October 28 2018 19:12 Morrissey wrote:
thats crazy considering the english broadcast has 14 (!!!) talents. while korean has 0. would it have been so difficult to do 10-4 or something instead?


additional note: people like you dummy1 should try to be a little more respectful and dont act like a aggressor. no need for this in this forum.
PharaphOobia
Profile Joined December 2017
6 Posts
October 28 2018 10:24 GMT
#26
i think it has something to do about twitch and afreeca which are both streaming platforms.. but we won't get much besides public PR release full of nice words from Blizzard so.. ye bad things happens
SHODAN
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1155 Posts
October 28 2018 10:27 GMT
#27
no official korean stream, 30 minute downtime between each game, played on a god-awful proxy patch. gj blizz
Freeborn
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany421 Posts
October 28 2018 10:29 GMT
#28
That is pathetic.
What are they using the warchest funds for then?
More american casters?

As a fan 70% of the fun in SC2 is watching the GSL.
Blizzard should have offered the korean stream to AfreecaTV.
Psychonian
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2322 Posts
October 28 2018 10:32 GMT
#29
Completely ridiculous and absolutely disgraceful. Way to throw the biggest Starcraft country in the world under the bus, Blizzard.
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Mun_Su
Profile Joined December 2012
France2063 Posts
October 28 2018 10:36 GMT
#30
what a massive disrespect
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
October 28 2018 10:38 GMT
#31
Sigh. Why does it seem like Blizzard goes out of their way, time and time again to fuck with the Korean Starcraft scene? Just give them the same resources you give the western scene, why is that so fucking hard to understand?

You already know that the game isn't as popular over there, how the hell do you expect to GET IT more popular if they keep doing shit like this. Ugh.
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Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
October 28 2018 10:39 GMT
#32
I wonder who's calling the shots on these decisions..

And although I agree it's a (hopefully unintended) affront that should have been avoided, Blizzard are still a company that needs to make a profit, trying to keep a franchise (that isn't doing as well as it used to) alive. And, according to fuzic.nl, the viewership has certainly increased across the board this year. Perhaps if they'd put more resources into reinvigorating the Korean fanbase, the South Korean audience would also grow, justifying the need for a separate cast in their mother tongue.
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
October 28 2018 10:39 GMT
#33
On October 28 2018 19:12 Morrissey wrote:
thats crazy considering the english broadcast has 14 (!!!) talents. while korean has 0. would it have been so difficult to do 10-4 or something instead?


No kidding. I'd be happy with half of the talent staying home if it meant the Koreans got their main cast here.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
October 28 2018 10:39 GMT
#34
So no cast in korean. Tough luck. Join the other 6000+ languages.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16063 Posts
October 28 2018 10:42 GMT
#35
On October 28 2018 19:23 DarkGamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2018 18:40 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 28 2018 18:38 DarkGamer wrote:
english is THE language all over the world.

it isn't



in my experience if two people from different countrys meet they try to comunicate in english (or spanish) most of the time. also in companies the most spoken language is english. thats y i think so.


only in western countries
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sneakyfox
Profile Joined January 2017
8216 Posts
October 28 2018 10:42 GMT
#36
This is disgraceful. Seriously hoping Blizzard realizes how bad this is.

It seems their whole bet on the future of SC2 are the mixed Korean-Circuit events, which also seem to be the most popular. It hardly helps the struggling Korean scene if there is no proper casting talent for them. They should obviously have brought in the GSL-crew.
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23577 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-28 10:50:08
October 28 2018 10:44 GMT
#37
On October 28 2018 19:39 Pr0wler wrote:
So no cast in korean. Tough luck. Join the other 6000+ languages.

There are two regions. Korea and the rest of the world. Both regions should be treated equally. You can't compare Korea to any other individual country.
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CMS_Flash
Profile Joined October 2013
Hong Kong47 Posts
October 28 2018 10:52 GMT
#38
If what the post says is true, then Blizzard's statement is simple illogical
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
October 28 2018 10:53 GMT
#39
On October 28 2018 19:39 Pr0wler wrote:
So no cast in korean. Tough luck. Join the other 6000+ languages.


The fuck are you on about? Half of the tournament is Korean! It's not a minor region it's the biggest region in the damn game!
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Cptbeefy
Profile Joined October 2018
Ireland13 Posts
October 28 2018 10:53 GMT
#40
What is the word from the WCS is everyone paid for? Is it a lack of availability from the koreans? We need all the facts here...
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