On October 31 2018 02:25 Acrofales wrote:
Wow, and I thought the EN production was bad. At least we had casters...
Wow, and I thought the EN production was bad. At least we had casters...
We sure did...
No wonder there was nothing left for KR.
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rotta
5562 Posts
On October 31 2018 02:25 Acrofales wrote: Wow, and I thought the EN production was bad. At least we had casters... We sure did... No wonder there was nothing left for KR. | ||
DSK
England1110 Posts
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Trozz
Canada3453 Posts
I blame the blizz CEO. It’s the Brak show now. | ||
JoeCool
Germany2517 Posts
On October 31 2018 02:37 rotta wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2018 02:25 Acrofales wrote: Wow, and I thought the EN production was bad. At least we had casters... We sure did... https://twitter.com/Stoochie2Timez/status/1056962274290618368 No wonder there was nothing left for KR. Yeah I was wondering the same when I saw how many casters we have. Not just because has no casters but because I thinkt its ridiculous that we have 8 (7 without nathan) casters for 16 players. | ||
Zephyp
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Rodya
546 Posts
On October 30 2018 06:10 Nathanias wrote: Show nested quote + On October 29 2018 02:58 AntiHack wrote: On October 28 2018 23:01 Rodya wrote: By the way, I find it telling that people tell Koreans to "just watch the English stream, whats the big deal?" and at the same time say that it's fine that the English commentarys have a massive foreigner bias in their analysis/commentary "because it's the english/foreigner stream". I will never understand the contempt some people in the community have for Koreans. I think that everyone who actually got decent at any esport looked up to many Koreans, and so would be incapable of such feelings. My guess is that this is a very telling analysis. I guess ppl like Nathanias saying "F**k Korea" basically every 2 streams doesn't help What? I don't have anything against Koreans. The only community in StarCraft that I dump on is BW Elitists because they deserve it. Anyone could have easily just been fans of both games and recognized a united scene is better than a divided one. Thanks for playing though! How about you dont flame people who like BW but not SC2? Is that unreasonable? Flash is the greatest RTS player of all time and its logically impossible for a SC2 player to steal that throne. Also it would be nice if one caster said something about this in support of Korea. Instead all we have had is Incontrol saying that Korea doesnt deserve commentary (on reddit). I hope Artosis at least says something, he's the only one I trust. | ||
deacon.frost
Czech Republic12128 Posts
On October 31 2018 21:31 Rodya wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2018 06:10 Nathanias wrote: On October 29 2018 02:58 AntiHack wrote: On October 28 2018 23:01 Rodya wrote: By the way, I find it telling that people tell Koreans to "just watch the English stream, whats the big deal?" and at the same time say that it's fine that the English commentarys have a massive foreigner bias in their analysis/commentary "because it's the english/foreigner stream". I will never understand the contempt some people in the community have for Koreans. I think that everyone who actually got decent at any esport looked up to many Koreans, and so would be incapable of such feelings. My guess is that this is a very telling analysis. I guess ppl like Nathanias saying "F**k Korea" basically every 2 streams doesn't help What? I don't have anything against Koreans. The only community in StarCraft that I dump on is BW Elitists because they deserve it. Anyone could have easily just been fans of both games and recognized a united scene is better than a divided one. Thanks for playing though! How about you dont flame people who like BW but not SC2? Is that unreasonable? Flash is the greatest RTS player of all time and its logically impossible for a SC2 player to steal that throne. Also it would be nice if one caster said something about this in support of Korea. Instead all we have had is Incontrol saying that Korea doesnt deserve commentary (on reddit). I hope Artosis at least says something, he's the only one I trust. Greatest RTS player of all time couldn't dominate SC2 which is an RTS. Somethings wrong with the statement ![]() ![]() | ||
KR_4EVR
316 Posts
On October 31 2018 21:57 deacon.frost wrote: Show nested quote + On October 31 2018 21:31 Rodya wrote: On October 30 2018 06:10 Nathanias wrote: On October 29 2018 02:58 AntiHack wrote: On October 28 2018 23:01 Rodya wrote: By the way, I find it telling that people tell Koreans to "just watch the English stream, whats the big deal?" and at the same time say that it's fine that the English commentarys have a massive foreigner bias in their analysis/commentary "because it's the english/foreigner stream". I will never understand the contempt some people in the community have for Koreans. I think that everyone who actually got decent at any esport looked up to many Koreans, and so would be incapable of such feelings. My guess is that this is a very telling analysis. I guess ppl like Nathanias saying "F**k Korea" basically every 2 streams doesn't help What? I don't have anything against Koreans. The only community in StarCraft that I dump on is BW Elitists because they deserve it. Anyone could have easily just been fans of both games and recognized a united scene is better than a divided one. Thanks for playing though! How about you dont flame people who like BW but not SC2? Is that unreasonable? Flash is the greatest RTS player of all time and its logically impossible for a SC2 player to steal that throne. Also it would be nice if one caster said something about this in support of Korea. Instead all we have had is Incontrol saying that Korea doesnt deserve commentary (on reddit). I hope Artosis at least says something, he's the only one I trust. Greatest RTS player of all time couldn't dominate SC2 which is an RTS. Somethings wrong with the statement ![]() ![]() Last I checked, Flash is an Adobe macromedia player, not an RTS player. | ||
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Waxangel
United States33079 Posts
On October 31 2018 21:31 Rodya wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2018 06:10 Nathanias wrote: On October 29 2018 02:58 AntiHack wrote: On October 28 2018 23:01 Rodya wrote: By the way, I find it telling that people tell Koreans to "just watch the English stream, whats the big deal?" and at the same time say that it's fine that the English commentarys have a massive foreigner bias in their analysis/commentary "because it's the english/foreigner stream". I will never understand the contempt some people in the community have for Koreans. I think that everyone who actually got decent at any esport looked up to many Koreans, and so would be incapable of such feelings. My guess is that this is a very telling analysis. I guess ppl like Nathanias saying "F**k Korea" basically every 2 streams doesn't help What? I don't have anything against Koreans. The only community in StarCraft that I dump on is BW Elitists because they deserve it. Anyone could have easily just been fans of both games and recognized a united scene is better than a divided one. Thanks for playing though! How about you dont flame people who like BW but not SC2? Is that unreasonable? Flash is the greatest RTS player of all time and its logically impossible for a SC2 player to steal that throne. Also it would be nice if one caster said something about this in support of Korea. Instead all we have had is Incontrol saying that Korea doesnt deserve commentary (on reddit). I hope Artosis at least says something, he's the only one I trust. you can't use "logically" in place of "in my opinion," m8 gonna have to handing out some warnings if you keep presenting what are very clearly subjective opinions as fact. | ||
Malongo
Chile3469 Posts
On October 31 2018 21:31 Rodya wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2018 06:10 Nathanias wrote: On October 29 2018 02:58 AntiHack wrote: On October 28 2018 23:01 Rodya wrote: By the way, I find it telling that people tell Koreans to "just watch the English stream, whats the big deal?" and at the same time say that it's fine that the English commentarys have a massive foreigner bias in their analysis/commentary "because it's the english/foreigner stream". I will never understand the contempt some people in the community have for Koreans. I think that everyone who actually got decent at any esport looked up to many Koreans, and so would be incapable of such feelings. My guess is that this is a very telling analysis. I guess ppl like Nathanias saying "F**k Korea" basically every 2 streams doesn't help What? I don't have anything against Koreans. The only community in StarCraft that I dump on is BW Elitists because they deserve it. Anyone could have easily just been fans of both games and recognized a united scene is better than a divided one. Thanks for playing though! How about you dont flame people who like BW but not SC2? Is that unreasonable? Flash is the greatest RTS player of all time and its logically impossible for a SC2 player to steal that throne. Also it would be nice if one caster said something about this in support of Korea. Instead all we have had is Incontrol saying that Korea doesnt deserve commentary (on reddit). I hope Artosis at least says something, he's the only one I trust. Link to that please, that can´t be true. | ||
Kalera
United States338 Posts
We were overwhelmed by the passion from the Korean StarCraft community for the #WCS Global Finals, and have worked alongside LuciaTV to improve the broadcast. Now to be held in VSL studio w/ GoliathMonster, Ragnarok, MC & Leenock; all community casters helping SC2 grow in Korea Looks like a step in the right direction. Still would have been nice if they could have worked something out with the professional Korean casting team, but it's too late for that now. | ||
OkStyX
Canada1199 Posts
On October 28 2018 18:40 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On October 28 2018 18:38 DarkGamer wrote: english is THE language all over the world. it isn't No but it is basically the trade language, I get what he is saying even if I do believe koreans should get their own casting! | ||
FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
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Azzur
Australia6253 Posts
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Azzur
Australia6253 Posts
On October 31 2018 21:31 Rodya wrote: Show nested quote + On October 30 2018 06:10 Nathanias wrote: On October 29 2018 02:58 AntiHack wrote: On October 28 2018 23:01 Rodya wrote: By the way, I find it telling that people tell Koreans to "just watch the English stream, whats the big deal?" and at the same time say that it's fine that the English commentarys have a massive foreigner bias in their analysis/commentary "because it's the english/foreigner stream". I will never understand the contempt some people in the community have for Koreans. I think that everyone who actually got decent at any esport looked up to many Koreans, and so would be incapable of such feelings. My guess is that this is a very telling analysis. I guess ppl like Nathanias saying "F**k Korea" basically every 2 streams doesn't help What? I don't have anything against Koreans. The only community in StarCraft that I dump on is BW Elitists because they deserve it. Anyone could have easily just been fans of both games and recognized a united scene is better than a divided one. Thanks for playing though! How about you dont flame people who like BW but not SC2? Is that unreasonable? Flash is the greatest RTS player of all time and its logically impossible for a SC2 player to steal that throne. Also it would be nice if one caster said something about this in support of Korea. Instead all we have had is Incontrol saying that Korea doesnt deserve commentary (on reddit). I hope Artosis at least says something, he's the only one I trust. Referencing the bold text... I tried to look for this but couldn't find it. Do you have the link? | ||
nanaoei
3358 Posts
it takes a special type of dense for that to be the only reason. | ||
Zephyp
238 Posts
On October 28 2018 17:51 Waxangel wrote: GSL commentator JYP told TeamLiquid.net that "...we were contacted before BlizzCon. Were were told that there was no separate budget for production or appearance fees. AfreecaTV would have been able to provide production/talent appearance support. Howevevr, [WCS at BlizzCon] was an exclusive Twitch stream, so we were unable to." I'm a bit confused by this. Does that mean the Afreeca team can't participate because of lack of funding or because they can't be part of a Twitch-exclusive event? | ||
fronkschnonk
Germany622 Posts
On November 01 2018 16:15 Zephyp wrote: Show nested quote + On October 28 2018 17:51 Waxangel wrote: GSL commentator JYP told TeamLiquid.net that "...we were contacted before BlizzCon. Were were told that there was no separate budget for production or appearance fees. AfreecaTV would have been able to provide production/talent appearance support. Howevevr, [WCS at BlizzCon] was an exclusive Twitch stream, so we were unable to." I'm a bit confused by this. Does that mean the Afreeca team can't participate because of lack of funding or because they can't be part of a Twitch-exclusive event? As far as I understand: Blizzard made a twitch-exclusive deal for Blizz-SC2 events years ago. It also mismanaged to fund a korean cast but afreeca would've jumped in funding their casters by themselves. But afreeca would obviously only do this if they could stream it via their own streaming network afreeca.tv. But they can't because of the twitch-exclusiveness of Blizzcon. I don't blame Blizzard for the twitch-exclusiveness. Such a situation hardly could've been foreseen back then, when afreeca was a minor player. But not planning for a public korean cast and then being unable to react quickly and fly two casters in ... that's sad. | ||
nukkuj
Finland403 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23570 Posts
On November 01 2018 12:47 Kalera wrote: https://twitter.com/esportstarcraft/status/1057830987936059392?s=21 Show nested quote + We were overwhelmed by the passion from the Korean StarCraft community for the #WCS Global Finals, and have worked alongside LuciaTV to improve the broadcast. Now to be held in VSL studio w/ GoliathMonster, Ragnarok, MC & Leenock; all community casters helping SC2 grow in Korea Looks like a step in the right direction. Still would have been nice if they could have worked something out with the professional Korean casting team, but it's too late for that now. It's not perfect, but they were never gonna fly in the casters last minute or fix the twitch vs afreeca thing on the spot. That they are at least acknowledging it and improved something is a start. | ||
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