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p1oneer
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia50 Posts
October 29 2018 09:56 GMT
#181
Totally Agree with TS.
Also super unhappy with English cast too. Tod casting SC2? He is not into starcraft for years already. This Maynard guy appeared at the beginning of the year and showed himself quite good, however now he looked like, he didnt spent much time following the scene. Casters couldnt oversee builds and were missjudging plays, like TY's proxies for example: it's normal meta for Terrans to proxy now, like Maru does almost every game. And we heard something like casters disappointed by player and strategies. InControl is funny, but mostly speaking not about the game, Kaelaris is from hots basically. Strange line-up of casters to my mind. Also lack of Korean cast is a hit to Korean scene. What would be with Starcraft without Korea?
waiting2Bbanned
Profile Joined November 2015
United States154 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-29 12:20:11
October 29 2018 12:14 GMT
#182
Is Blizzard purposely trying to bury SC by alienating their biggest player & fan-base??

For the first time in years we have a bit of a resurgency, with foreigners getting as close as they've ever been to Korean-level players and renewed interest in competitive SC2, and THIS is what they're doing??

What-the-actual-fuck, Blizzard?!?
"If you are going to break the law, do it with two thousand people.. and Mozart." - Howard Zinn
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
October 29 2018 12:25 GMT
#183
On October 29 2018 21:14 waiting2Bbanned wrote:
Is Blizzard purposely trying to bury SC by alienating their biggest player & fan-base??


I mean, I know that everybody is irritated about the situation, but I don't see what it has to do with China specifically.
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
October 29 2018 12:34 GMT
#184
There's no excuse for that blizzard... id call it greed but its more just stupidity
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5598 Posts
October 29 2018 13:42 GMT
#185
On October 29 2018 11:49 FrkFrJss wrote:
In fact, the first win by HuK against Kiwikaki featured one Korean, Silver, who is so unknown that I can't actually find a Korean Silver in liquipedia.

The Korean (Wiki)Silver did not play SC2, the (Wiki)Silver you're talking about is actually Canadian.
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Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1921 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-29 14:03:11
October 29 2018 14:02 GMT
#186
On October 29 2018 21:25 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 21:14 waiting2Bbanned wrote:
Is Blizzard purposely trying to bury SC by alienating their biggest player & fan-base??


I mean, I know that everybody is irritated about the situation, but I don't see what it has to do with China specifically.


Afaik EU has the biggest playerbase.
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7wig
Profile Joined April 2018
Australia27 Posts
October 29 2018 14:12 GMT
#187
Wonder how much they paid tastetosis to not have budget for Korean casters.
Nathanias
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States290 Posts
October 29 2018 21:10 GMT
#188
On October 29 2018 02:58 AntiHack wrote:
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On October 28 2018 23:01 Rodya wrote:
By the way, I find it telling that people tell Koreans to "just watch the English stream, whats the big deal?" and at the same time say that it's fine that the English commentarys have a massive foreigner bias in their analysis/commentary "because it's the english/foreigner stream".

I will never understand the contempt some people in the community have for Koreans. I think that everyone who actually got decent at any esport looked up to many Koreans, and so would be incapable of such feelings. My guess is that this is a very telling analysis.

I guess ppl like Nathanias saying "F**k Korea" basically every 2 streams doesn't help


What? I don't have anything against Koreans. The only community in StarCraft that I dump on is BW Elitists because they deserve it. Anyone could have easily just been fans of both games and recognized a united scene is better than a divided one. Thanks for playing though!
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16024 Posts
October 29 2018 21:15 GMT
#189
On October 29 2018 23:02 Creager wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 21:25 JustPassingBy wrote:
On October 29 2018 21:14 waiting2Bbanned wrote:
Is Blizzard purposely trying to bury SC by alienating their biggest player & fan-base??


I mean, I know that everybody is irritated about the situation, but I don't see what it has to do with China specifically.


Afaik EU has the biggest playerbase.

when you compare a continent to a country... sure
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
October 29 2018 21:37 GMT
#190
Given the structure of WCS with half of it being Korean tournaments, having no Korean casters live at the global finals seems like a really weird/bad decision. Seems pretty disrespectful tbh.
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jedi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
United States172 Posts
October 29 2018 23:39 GMT
#191
NASL sound guy
FrkFrJss
Profile Joined April 2015
Canada1205 Posts
October 30 2018 02:59 GMT
#192
On October 29 2018 22:42 rotta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 11:49 FrkFrJss wrote:
In fact, the first win by HuK against Kiwikaki featured one Korean, Silver, who is so unknown that I can't actually find a Korean Silver in liquipedia.

The Korean (Wiki)Silver did not play SC2, the (Wiki)Silver you're talking about is actually Canadian.

It could be a flag typo, but in HuK's first win, a Korean named Silver is listed as playing. Also, I meant in SC2 liquipedia and not BW.
"Keep Moving Forward" - Walt Disney
FarmI3oy
Profile Joined May 2011
United States255 Posts
October 30 2018 04:46 GMT
#193
Hopefully this doesn't get derailed into a debate about unconscious racism.

This whole not having Korean commentators is a real issue and anyone who is a true fan of the game should be mortified. The amount of english talent for this event is unprecedented and complete overkill. As much as I like listening to the "a foreigner could win" circle jerk, I think its evident that the quantity of same language commentators doesn't increase the quality of the stream.

Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1921 Posts
October 30 2018 04:57 GMT
#194
On October 30 2018 06:15 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 23:02 Creager wrote:
On October 29 2018 21:25 JustPassingBy wrote:
On October 29 2018 21:14 waiting2Bbanned wrote:
Is Blizzard purposely trying to bury SC by alienating their biggest player & fan-base??


I mean, I know that everybody is irritated about the situation, but I don't see what it has to do with China specifically.


Afaik EU has the biggest playerbase.

when you compare a continent to a country... sure


I'm just looking at the different servers we got and that's what it is. But nice cleverdicking, as usual.
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rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5598 Posts
October 30 2018 10:27 GMT
#195
On October 30 2018 11:59 FrkFrJss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 22:42 rotta wrote:
On October 29 2018 11:49 FrkFrJss wrote:
In fact, the first win by HuK against Kiwikaki featured one Korean, Silver, who is so unknown that I can't actually find a Korean Silver in liquipedia.

The Korean (Wiki)Silver did not play SC2, the (Wiki)Silver you're talking about is actually Canadian.

It could be a flag typo, but in HuK's first win, a Korean named Silver is listed as playing. Also, I meant in SC2 liquipedia and not BW.

Yeah his race is wrong too, if you scroll down you can see it's fixed in the Losers Bracket.

+ Show Spoiler +
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 30 2018 10:54 GMT
#196
On October 30 2018 06:15 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2018 23:02 Creager wrote:
On October 29 2018 21:25 JustPassingBy wrote:
On October 29 2018 21:14 waiting2Bbanned wrote:
Is Blizzard purposely trying to bury SC by alienating their biggest player & fan-base??


I mean, I know that everybody is irritated about the situation, but I don't see what it has to do with China specifically.


Afaik EU has the biggest playerbase.

when you compare a continent to a country... sure

EU is not a country
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
bObA
Profile Joined May 2012
France300 Posts
October 30 2018 14:42 GMT
#197
that sucks...
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
October 30 2018 15:23 GMT
#198
So there is something like 10 English casters, half of which don't even follow SC2 anymore, whilst Korea which has half the players gets no real support?

I don't really understand the reason behind this except due to utter incompetence. Only thing I can think of is that it turns out that NA + EU are buying all the warchests and korea buy none, so they are trying to kill the korean scene, so hopefully more EU and NA buys more warchests as a side effect.
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
October 30 2018 17:02 GMT
#199
On October 30 2018 19:54 deacon.frost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2018 06:15 Charoisaur wrote:
On October 29 2018 23:02 Creager wrote:
On October 29 2018 21:25 JustPassingBy wrote:
On October 29 2018 21:14 waiting2Bbanned wrote:
Is Blizzard purposely trying to bury SC by alienating their biggest player & fan-base??


I mean, I know that everybody is irritated about the situation, but I don't see what it has to do with China specifically.


Afaik EU has the biggest playerbase.

when you compare a continent to a country... sure

EU is not a country


So Korea is a continent ?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18193 Posts
October 30 2018 17:25 GMT
#200
Wow, and I thought the EN production was bad. At least we had casters...
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