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Korean community outrage over BlizzCon casting

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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33479 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-11-01 16:41:33
October 28 2018 08:51 GMT
#1
Update: Oct 31

Blizzard has added additional casters to the Korean community stream to try and improve the BlizzCon experience for the Korean fans, but the original GSL casters will remain absent from the broadcast.




The Korean community has expressed its outrage over the state of Korean-language casting for this year's WCS Global Finals, where it appears that the familiar voices of the GSL will not be casting StarCraft II's most prestigious event.

GSL commentator JYP told TeamLiquid.net that "...we were contacted before BlizzCon. Were were told that there was no separate budget for production or appearance fees. AfreecaTV would have been able to provide production/talent appearance support. Howevevr, [WCS at BlizzCon] was an exclusive Twitch stream, so we were unable to."

Korean fans took to Reddit, looking to catch the attention of the US-located, English-speaking, Blizzard headquarters.

One post read: "crank TV is playing the broadcast during the opening period. and LuciaTV from the quarterfinals to the final. Crank is a former pro(but even thoght he is just a one of streamer ), while Lucia is just a large-scale streamer with little to do with Starcraft 2( She has held the Starcraft 2 tournament, but basically, she is a not a starcraft2 streamer) . There's no mention of broadcast with expert commentator at all While even the StarCraft remaster event games are sent to the official channel, it is unknown that the main event of the blizzcon, the StarCraft 2 finals, will not use the official bradcast.
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There are people who devote for Starcraft 2.Among them, the on-poong media created by GSL broadcast team holding a lot of competitions. of starcraft2 Despite this passion, Blizzard says that will not be able to make a boradcast and It has been known a while ago that Blizzard korea proposed a non-paycheck broadcast to on-poong team. It sounds like an excuse that we couldn't afford the broadcasting team because we didn't have the budget now. I think Blizzard is being too unfair for the interests of its users and fans."


Postings on Korean community forums expressed their displeasure at Blizzard's promotion of the 2018 War Chests as 'supporting esports' while failing to provide the Korean community with the commentary they had become accustomed to all year.
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Cptbeefy
Profile Joined October 2018
Ireland13 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-28 09:04:48
October 28 2018 09:03 GMT
#2
edit... that sucks...
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1711 Posts
October 28 2018 09:04 GMT
#3
On October 28 2018 18:03 Cptbeefy wrote:
gahhh..... Was that why the ASL finals had no english commentators?


ASL did have english commentators - Rapid and NoRegret casted it
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
October 28 2018 09:09 GMT
#4
that's a big overlook from blizzard.

Crank casting the groupstage seems borderline fine, even though it should be standard to have a korean casting team in america imo. That should 100% be the case for blizzcon itself.
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J. Corsair
Profile Joined June 2014
United States470 Posts
October 28 2018 09:11 GMT
#5
Ridiculous by Blizzard.
“...it is human nature, I suppose, to be futile and ridiculous.” - Scaramouche
Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
October 28 2018 09:25 GMT
#6
$700K prize pool but doesn't want to support casting for the country half the players are from. Good job.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
October 28 2018 09:27 GMT
#7
How the hell does Blizzard drop the ball on this one.

The game starcraft and Korea is synonmous.

What the actual fuck.
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4560 Posts
October 28 2018 09:27 GMT
#8
ESL casting their Dota2 major on FB seems better now. At least, they have better production.
Mute user function on TL; http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/491245-mute-annoying-users-in-lr-threads
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
October 28 2018 09:35 GMT
#9
A disgrace imo. Thought it would be a given that they would fly GSL casters out to BlizzCon, just as they flew WCS casters out to Korea for GSL vs The World.

The money is just drop in the bucket. Seriously wishing I could return that stupid Warchest.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
DarkGamer
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany323 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-28 09:39:22
October 28 2018 09:38 GMT
#10
I think it would be great for the koreans to have a korean caster team.

but on the other hand why cant the korean watch the english stream?
english is THE language all over the world.
there are players and spectators from all over the world whose first language isnt english too.
im from germany and i dont demand a german stream.
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16008 Posts
October 28 2018 09:40 GMT
#11
On October 28 2018 18:38 DarkGamer wrote:
english is THE language all over the world.

it isn't
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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12904 Posts
October 28 2018 09:40 GMT
#12
On October 28 2018 18:38 DarkGamer wrote:
I think it would be great for the koreans to have a korean caster team.

but on the other hand why cant the korean watch the english stream?
english is THE language all over the world.
there are players and spectators from all over the world whose first language isnt english too.
im from germany and i dont demand a german stream.

Because there are more players in BlizzCon with Korean as first language than there are with English?
WriterMaru
neutralrobot
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia1025 Posts
October 28 2018 09:42 GMT
#13
On October 28 2018 18:25 Fango wrote:
$700K prize pool but doesn't want to support casting for the country half the players are from. Good job.


Blizzard makes such weird decisions sometimes. I'm glad the fans are speaking up, I'd be pretty unhappy with that too.
Maru | Life | PartinG || I guess I like aggressive control freaks... || Reynor will one day reign supreme || *reyn supreme
dummy1
Profile Blog Joined April 2018
420 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-28 09:49:24
October 28 2018 09:47 GMT
#14
I will stay with korean community no matter what. So biggest fck you dear Blizzard for making another one pointless decision.
Btw AfreecaTV ang GSL has the best production.
https://www.youtube.com/c/DepressingStarcraft <- Maru VODs and stuff | END REGION-LOCK NOW
207aicila
Profile Joined January 2015
1237 Posts
October 28 2018 09:49 GMT
#15
On October 28 2018 18:38 DarkGamer wrote:
I think it would be great for the koreans to have a korean caster team.

but on the other hand why cant the korean watch the english stream?
english is THE language all over the world.
there are players and spectators from all over the world whose first language isnt english too.
im from germany and i dont demand a german stream.


Your point isn't altogether that bad - although I'm strongly on the side of "WTF Blizzard" on this one - but here are some things to consider as to why the comparison between Korea and Germany is bad here:

Korea has always had a disproportionately high number of StarCraft fans, players and pros compared to any other country, and clearly cared enough about the game to organise large grassroots tournaments and put the game on TV for years. Even with SC2 being nowhere near as popular as BW in Korea, they're still the single biggest national scene. Remember that when you're comparing viewership between regional events you're comparing Korea alone vs a dozen or two Western countries - and they are still comparable. Blizzard clearly understand this since they've given Korea its own WCS region since the inception of the WCS system.

Even with BlizzCon being an event that always draws a lot of outsider eyeballs and not just strictly regular fans, it still seems stupid and disrespectful for them to exclude the one nation with the biggest scene and culture of their game, even if that's maybe only 10-15-20% of the audience.

Also, one more thing, here in Europe we tend to learn English en masse from a very young age and many of us are constantly surrounded by it in media and culture. In my experience East Asian countries tend to be a lot weaker in terms of how well-versed the average citizen is at speaking English. I'm not educated enough on the subject to tell you why, but it's the reality of the situation.
mfw people who never followed BW speak about sAviOr as if they know anything... -___-''''
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Nezgar
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany535 Posts
October 28 2018 09:54 GMT
#16
I have a feeling that there is more to this story.
Completely ignoring the koreans seems like such an obviously bad choice, not sure why they'd ever consider doing just that.
dummy1
Profile Blog Joined April 2018
420 Posts
October 28 2018 09:56 GMT
#17
On October 28 2018 18:38 DarkGamer wrote:
I think it would be great for the koreans to have a korean caster team.

but on the other hand why cant the korean watch the english stream?
english is THE language all over the world.
there are players and spectators from all over the world whose first language isnt english too.
im from germany and i dont demand a german stream.

dude, wtf, a korean caster team, did you just came from mars? english IS NOT THE language all over the world. Bite it.
Damn.
https://www.youtube.com/c/DepressingStarcraft <- Maru VODs and stuff | END REGION-LOCK NOW
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5497 Posts
October 28 2018 10:01 GMT
#18
On October 28 2018 18:40 Charoisaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2018 18:38 DarkGamer wrote:
english is THE language all over the world.

it isn't

It is, just not in this context
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
StarscreamG1
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal1653 Posts
October 28 2018 10:05 GMT
#19
We get like 10 speaking americans, and none Korean? holy god that sucks :'(
Malongo
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Chile3472 Posts
October 28 2018 10:10 GMT
#20
Beyond stupidity.
Help me! im still improving my English. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. M. G.
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