Maru defeats TY and wins 3rd consecutive Code S title - Pa…

On September 16 2018 04:47 Vindicare605 wrote:


Because GSL is actually an accomplishment. Like it or not, regionlocking has made the WCS far less competitive than it would be otherwise, championships are less prestigious as a result.

No one is denying how good Serral is, but until he wins either Blizzcon, or an actual GSL his victories have an enormous asterisk next to them.

On September 16 2018 04:48 Psychonian wrote:


I don't know why I'm bothering responding to you, but here we go

Scarlett won IEM Pyeongchang and got ro8 in Code S season 1 2018, and Reynor very nearly 2-0'd Maru in their RO16 match. It's ridiculous to say that neither of them would get air time against Maru, especially when Reynor literally *did* get 45 minutes. In addition, it's hardly fair to judge by that tiny match score in BO3's that Serral is a much worse player than Maru. I will grant that Montreal isn't nearly as impressive as Code S, but dear god man, if you want to prove that point you can do it without straight up lying.

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Last Edited: 2018-09-15 09:17:53 4 hours ago #50
On September 16 2018 00:51 Rodya wrote:
As usual, some people have to come in and mention Serral in every thread about Maru... so annoying. Some quick facts for the rest of this thread (no one shall ever need to state them again in this thread, but I think someone has to in each thread the trolls appear):

1) Serral is 0-3 vs Maru in official matches. They played at WESG semi-finals and Maru won without any game being even slightly close.

2) Serral barely won WCS Montreal against players that couldn't even qualify for GSL, or in Reynor's case, did not perform very well.

3) Maru has won 3 GSL in a row against the best competition in the world... the only possible top 20 player that doesnt play in GSL is Serral.

4) GSL vs the World is a real tournament, but it's one that Koreans traditionally do not prepare that much for and going into it, Serral was not considered a threat to Koreans at ALL. Thus Koreans did not prepare for Serral and as testified by Artosis himself, they were shocked when they saw Serral playing well in the ro8.

5) Gsl vs. the World is NOT a GSL. When you say "X has won a GSL" you mean Code S - not any tournament with GSL in the title!

So no - Serral has lost the head to head in embarassing fashion, and no - Serral has looked much more vulnerable nearly losing to Lambo, Scarlett, and Reynor - players that wouldn't get 45 minutes of air time against Maru and no - winning WCS Montreal isn't remotely as impressive as winning GSL Code S Season 3.

Congrats to Maru - that was a great series although not the best TvT of all time as Tasteless said.

This again lol.
1) They are 3-3. Also Maru is the one who didn't make the finals if GSL v World for them to have met there, so U can't really use this argument

2) Serral has been destroying every tournament - 4 WCS in a row, plus a GSL.

3) yes Maru has done very well but as some have noted, it is in the post-teamhouse era while he is in the only remaining teamhouse. He said himself he couldn't do it without bunny and cure in the interview.

Also how do you say Neeb isn't top 20 if he got to semis, or reynor to ro16? You're arguments are internally inconsistent.

4) Serral prepared no more than the Koreans did. It's not like he prepared for every Korean he would face. All you're saying is that it was a fair fight.

5) GSL v World is actually harder in some regards as it requires a lot more stamina in a short period, and you don't have the luxury of spending a week with your team mates pretending to be your opponent (note only Jin Air can do this as mentioned above)

Come on guy, Maru only -just- beat TY here, you can pretend all you want but it's basically neck and neck between Serral and Maru, if not Serral favoured for the reasons outlined above.

On September 16 2018 05:40 Kaewins wrote:
Congrats to Maru!

Feel sad for TY. He was the more refined terran today. Brought interesting strats to the table while Maru proxy raxed every game.

But being gutsy and having killer sense is also a skill. As far as TVT goes, I feel TY was the better player, but Maru took more risks, even when he was about to lose in that last game he didn't flinch and went for it. I guess sometimes this is what it takes to be the champ!

Very entertaining finals!

Every top "major league" needs a bunch of minor leagues to prepare the close to the best to become good enough for the best league. There is nothing wrong with multiple leagues of several skill levels.

I'm pretty sure the total attendance of minor league and college baseball is similar to the total attendance for major league baseball.