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Fango
Profile Joined July 2016
United Kingdom8987 Posts
September 15 2018 15:57 GMT
#41
I had to leave after the start of game 3, seeing the proxy again I really thought TY had it.

Maru is just the greatest. It doesn't matter what's done to him or what he has to do, he still finds a way to win.
Zest, sOs, PartinG, Dark, and Maru are the real champs. ROOT_herO is overrated. Snute, Serral, and Scarlett are the foreigner GOATs
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
September 15 2018 15:58 GMT
#42
On September 16 2018 00:56 renaissanceMAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2018 00:35 Lgnarrow wrote:
On September 15 2018 21:41 IshinShishi wrote:
On September 15 2018 22:32 Lgnarrow wrote:

You mean Life?

You mean Mvp?


Life > Mvp all day all night.
Life was playing during the highest skill era. SC2 was young, and without kespa players when Mvp was winning.
Mvp was lucky there were million of GSL's in 2011, when he was at his prime.


Life also cheated.

He didn't. But he was good enough to drop some maps on purpose and still win the boX.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12133 Posts
September 15 2018 15:59 GMT
#43
On September 15 2018 22:45 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
lol
took TL writers 1 hour to produce Maru's GSL win news.
Its been 6 days since Serral's WCS win and still no news post. No bias whatsoever.

What holds you back to write one and send it to them? What holds you back to join TL writers and write about WCS if they cosider GSL to be the better and more serious league?

Critizing is easy, show them how to do it properly!
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2722 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 16:02:25
September 15 2018 16:00 GMT
#44
Imagine where Life could be now if he didn't matchfix I feel like he's the only one who can go toe-to-toe with Maru in terms of micro and maneuvering.

As evident by the most viewed competitive starcraft video on youtube
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Amarillo Caballero
Profile Joined May 2014
United States72 Posts
September 15 2018 16:00 GMT
#45
On September 16 2018 00:51 Rodya wrote:
As usual, some people have to come in and mention Serral in every thread about Maru... so annoying. Some quick facts for the rest of this thread (no one shall ever need to state them again in this thread, but I think someone has to in each thread the trolls appear):



I mean, even the GSL presenter asked Maru about Serral in the winner's interview.
Vincenzo
Profile Joined June 2018
11 Posts
September 15 2018 16:05 GMT
#46
I'm so sad TY could not win
VengefulTree
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada637 Posts
September 15 2018 16:09 GMT
#47
On September 15 2018 21:34 BLinD-RawR wrote:
GOAT for the year 2018 imo


How is that even debatable though
"I'll temper my comments the best I can. To have Stats ranked anything below 2nd is total absolute bullcrap! A travesty an abomination!" - Rolltide | "When a foreign Terran is about to win, the entire universe conspires against him" - Paulo Coelho
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2722 Posts
September 15 2018 16:11 GMT
#48
On September 16 2018 01:09 VengefulTree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 21:34 BLinD-RawR wrote:
GOAT for the year 2018 imo


How is that even debatable though

It's an oxymoron. You can't be Greatest of All Time for the year 2018. Maybe GO2018?
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 16:17:01
September 15 2018 16:16 GMT
#49
On September 15 2018 22:45 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
lol
took TL writers 1 hour to produce Maru's GSL win news.
Its been 6 days since Serral's WCS win and still no news post. No bias whatsoever.

You're not wrong, It's still a miracle to me there was no news about WCS being over.
Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 16:17:53
September 15 2018 16:17 GMT
#50
On September 16 2018 00:51 Rodya wrote:
As usual, some people have to come in and mention Serral in every thread about Maru... so annoying. Some quick facts for the rest of this thread (no one shall ever need to state them again in this thread, but I think someone has to in each thread the trolls appear):

1) Serral is 0-3 vs Maru in official matches. They played at WESG semi-finals and Maru won without any game being even slightly close.

2) Serral barely won WCS Montreal against players that couldn't even qualify for GSL, or in Reynor's case, did not perform very well.

3) Maru has won 3 GSL in a row against the best competition in the world... the only possible top 20 player that doesnt play in GSL is Serral.

4) GSL vs the World is a real tournament, but it's one that Koreans traditionally do not prepare that much for and going into it, Serral was not considered a threat to Koreans at ALL. Thus Koreans did not prepare for Serral and as testified by Artosis himself, they were shocked when they saw Serral playing well in the ro8.

5) Gsl vs. the World is NOT a GSL. When you say "X has won a GSL" you mean Code S - not any tournament with GSL in the title!

So no - Serral has lost the head to head in embarassing fashion, and no - Serral has looked much more vulnerable nearly losing to Lambo, Scarlett, and Reynor - players that wouldn't get 45 minutes of air time against Maru and no - winning WCS Montreal isn't remotely as impressive as winning GSL Code S Season 3.

Congrats to Maru - that was a great series although not the best TvT of all time as Tasteless said.

This again lol.
1) They are 3-3. Also Maru is the one who didn't make the finals if GSL v World for them to have met there, so U can't really use this argument

2) Serral has been destroying every tournament - 4 WCS in a row, plus a GSL.

3) yes Maru has done very well but as some have noted, it is in the post-teamhouse era while he is in the only remaining teamhouse. He said himself he couldn't do it without bunny and cure in the interview.

Also how do you say Neeb isn't top 20 if he got to semis, or reynor to ro16? You're arguments are internally inconsistent.

4) Serral prepared no more than the Koreans did. It's not like he prepared for every Korean he would face. All you're saying is that it was a fair fight.

5) GSL v World is actually harder in some regards as it requires a lot more stamina in a short period, and you don't have the luxury of spending a week with your team mates pretending to be your opponent (note only Jin Air can do this as mentioned above)

Come on guy, Maru only -just- beat TY here, you can pretend all you want but it's basically neck and neck between Serral and Maru, if not Serral favoured for the reasons outlined above.
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
September 15 2018 16:22 GMT
#51
Bonjwa Maru.
Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
September 15 2018 16:24 GMT
#52
It was a wondeful match. Both TY and Maru looked marvelous. In all honesty, I'm as happy for Maru as I am sad for TY. We're blessed to have those two Terrans to BlizzCon anyway.

Two questions are in my mind since the finals :

1/ What if Life did not match-fix? Boy oh boy Maru vs him could have been the best rivalry ever.

2/ Will a Serral vs. Maru finals at BlizzCon, if it ever happens, be as good as this wonderful clash between the best Terrans in the world right now?
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
Fran_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 16:29:36
September 15 2018 16:27 GMT
#53
On September 16 2018 01:17 Dave4 wrote:

2) Serral has been destroying every tournament - 4 WCS in a row, plus a GSL.


It wasn't a GSL Code S.

Come on guy, Maru only -just- beat TY here, you can pretend all you want but it's basically neck and neck between Serral and Maru, if not Serral favoured for the reasons outlined above.


Maybe. In a parallel universe.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13018 Posts
September 15 2018 16:29 GMT
#54
On September 16 2018 00:35 Lgnarrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 21:41 IshinShishi wrote:
On September 15 2018 22:32 Lgnarrow wrote:

You mean Life?

You mean Mvp?


Life > Mvp all day all night.
Life was playing during the highest skill era. SC2 was young, and without kespa players when Mvp was winning.
Mvp was lucky there were million of GSL's in 2011, when he was at his prime.

[/QUOTE]
Life was a patchzerg while Mvp fought through injury.
One is a legend of sc2 while the other is a failure
WriterMaru
Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
September 15 2018 16:36 GMT
#55
On September 16 2018 01:24 Serimek wrote:
It was a wondeful match. Both TY and Maru looked marvelous. In all honesty, I'm as happy for Maru as I am sad for TY. We're blessed to have those two Terrans to BlizzCon anyway.

Two questions are in my mind since the finals :

1/ What if Life did not match-fix? Boy oh boy Maru vs him could have been the best rivalry ever.

2/ Will a Serral vs. Maru finals at BlizzCon, if it ever happens, be as good as this wonderful clash between the best Terrans in the world right now?

1) is hard to say because Life was in one of the closed teamhouse, so likely that having training time reduced by needing to cook meals etc. Plus not having teammates to prepare with would have made it very difficult for him going up against Maru plus entourage.

2) I think the sheer hype built up for a BlizzCon standoff would make it crazy regardless of the outcome. It would be interesting to see how Maru goes in a regular environment like that but should be close I think. That said it was a very interesting TvT to watch!
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16089 Posts
September 15 2018 16:36 GMT
#56
Why are people still getting baited by Dave4 and Rodya?
Ignore their posts and move on
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Rodya
Profile Joined January 2018
546 Posts
September 15 2018 16:41 GMT
#57
Dave4 is a troll - I agree with Charoisaur, just ignore him and move on. I however, am not a troll and have only stated facts in this thread and a congratulations for Maru. If you disagree with any of the 5 points I made in my earlier post then you're in a tiny minority of Serral fangirls.
Banned for saying "zerg players are by far the biggest whiners in sc2 history" despite the fact that this forum is full of such posts about Terrans. Foreigner Elitists in control!
BigRedDog
Profile Joined May 2012
461 Posts
September 15 2018 16:41 GMT
#58
Hard to compare between Life and Maru...given that Maru didn't really peak until after 2015.

Big Red Dog!
argonautdice
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada2722 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 16:49:25
September 15 2018 16:48 GMT
#59
On September 16 2018 01:41 BigRedDog wrote:
Hard to compare between Life and Maru...given that Maru didn't really peak until after 2015.


early 2015 was definitely a decent peak for Maru. He was one game away from besting Life in IEM Taipei and then won SSL a month later (Life died to Dream in the semi in the same tournament). That was his best pair of consecutive results until 2018.

Of course we can't compare Life and Maru in 2018. It's what could've been.
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Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 16:53:37
September 15 2018 16:49 GMT
#60
On September 16 2018 01:41 Rodya wrote:
Dave4 is a troll - I agree with Charoisaur, just ignore him and move on. I however, am not a troll and have only stated facts in this thread and a congratulations for Maru. If you disagree with any of the 5 points I made in my earlier post then you're in a tiny minority of Serral fangirls.

Just because someone disagrees with you and backs it up with credible arguments doesnt make them a troll.

I think I'm being baited now but you are very clearly Korean competition biased which is fine but just be honest about it.

The fact is, since Kespa died, the Korea>everything else mantra simply doesn't hold muster anymore, as was evidenced clearly by Neeb last year and Serral this year.

Also I am not even much of a Serral fan - I much prefer Reynors style of play. I just think it's crazy that people continue to disregard his unprecedented achievements this year. Statistically, winning this many tournaments in a game as varied as SC2 is breathtaking. No matter what comes his way he seems to win.

Also I have congratulated Maru who is doing the unprecedented at the moment as well - I just also acknowledge that he also has a big upper hand over others from previous eras.
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