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Dave4
Profile Joined August 2018
494 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 16:52:43
September 15 2018 16:51 GMT
#61
Double post, sorry.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16831 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 17:10:30
September 15 2018 16:57 GMT
#62
Maru arrives at the GSL with a wheelbarrow. he needs that to carry his testicles.

one of the best BO7 SC2 series i've ever seen.

congratz to Maru and TY for the great series.
thanks to Blizzard, the SC2 design team and that italian guy who talks with his hands for making a great game that facilitates all this amazing RTS game play.
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
September 15 2018 17:04 GMT
#63
Maybe not GOAT but definitely the most dominant peak. Same with Serral for foreigners. It's a good time for SC2, the game in the past was too random for anyone to exhibit this level of dominance.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 15 2018 17:09 GMT
#64
On September 16 2018 01:17 Dave4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2018 00:51 Rodya wrote:
As usual, some people have to come in and mention Serral in every thread about Maru... so annoying. Some quick facts for the rest of this thread (no one shall ever need to state them again in this thread, but I think someone has to in each thread the trolls appear):

1) Serral is 0-3 vs Maru in official matches. They played at WESG semi-finals and Maru won without any game being even slightly close.

2) Serral barely won WCS Montreal against players that couldn't even qualify for GSL, or in Reynor's case, did not perform very well.

3) Maru has won 3 GSL in a row against the best competition in the world... the only possible top 20 player that doesnt play in GSL is Serral.

4) GSL vs the World is a real tournament, but it's one that Koreans traditionally do not prepare that much for and going into it, Serral was not considered a threat to Koreans at ALL. Thus Koreans did not prepare for Serral and as testified by Artosis himself, they were shocked when they saw Serral playing well in the ro8.

5) Gsl vs. the World is NOT a GSL. When you say "X has won a GSL" you mean Code S - not any tournament with GSL in the title!

So no - Serral has lost the head to head in embarassing fashion, and no - Serral has looked much more vulnerable nearly losing to Lambo, Scarlett, and Reynor - players that wouldn't get 45 minutes of air time against Maru and no - winning WCS Montreal isn't remotely as impressive as winning GSL Code S Season 3.

Congrats to Maru - that was a great series although not the best TvT of all time as Tasteless said.

This again lol.
1) They are 3-3. Also Maru is the one who didn't make the finals if GSL v World for them to have met there, so U can't really use this argument

2) Serral has been destroying every tournament - 4 WCS in a row, plus a GSL.

3) yes Maru has done very well but as some have noted, it is in the post-teamhouse era while he is in the only remaining teamhouse. He said himself he couldn't do it without bunny and cure in the interview.

Also how do you say Neeb isn't top 20 if he got to semis, or reynor to ro16? You're arguments are internally inconsistent.

4) Serral prepared no more than the Koreans did. It's not like he prepared for every Korean he would face. All you're saying is that it was a fair fight.

5) GSL v World is actually harder in some regards as it requires a lot more stamina in a short period, and you don't have the luxury of spending a week with your team mates pretending to be your opponent (note only Jin Air can do this as mentioned above)

Come on guy, Maru only -just- beat TY here, you can pretend all you want but it's basically neck and neck between Serral and Maru, if not Serral favoured for the reasons outlined above.

Don't know about that, but in that thing you quote he literally says that only Serral is the only player from top20 who doesn't play in GSL. That doesn't imply anything about Neeb or Raynor.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16831 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 17:16:58
September 15 2018 17:12 GMT
#65
On September 16 2018 01:00 argonautdice wrote:
Imagine where Life could be now if he didn't matchfix I feel like he's the only one who can go toe-to-toe with Maru in terms of micro and maneuvering.

or imagine if he just didn't get caught. lots of match-fixing goes on in a great many different competitions without it ever getting caught.
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
September 15 2018 17:18 GMT
#66
Can you imagine how big the artosis curse will be at Blizzcon? IMAGINE THIS!
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jedi1982
Profile Joined January 2011
United States172 Posts
September 15 2018 17:19 GMT
#67
Oh man! What a finals!! Game 4 was just incredible. If at Blizzcon we have a Maru vs Serral finals, I honestly don't know who I would want to win. Being a lifelong Terran player, of course I would cheer for Maru! However, seeing the Korean dominance for the existence of StarCraft, I would love it if a foreigner would win and Serral's play style is fantastic. Either way, we would all be in for a treat if that happens!!
swarminfestor
Profile Joined September 2017
Malaysia2449 Posts
September 15 2018 17:25 GMT
#68
On September 16 2018 01:24 Serimek wrote:
It was a wondeful match. Both TY and Maru looked marvelous. In all honesty, I'm as happy for Maru as I am sad for TY. We're blessed to have those two Terrans to BlizzCon anyway.

Two questions are in my mind since the finals :

1/ What if Life did not match-fix? Boy oh boy Maru vs him could have been the best rivalry ever.

2/ Will a Serral vs. Maru finals at BlizzCon, if it ever happens, be as good as this wonderful clash between the best Terrans in the world right now?


Maru said before that Rogue's winning in Blizzcon is his primary motivation. So if Life winning Blizzcon 2017, then Maru ended up being like the old one. No motivation.

Rogue & Maru fan boy. ^^
papapanda
Profile Joined April 2010
Taiwan326 Posts
September 15 2018 17:30 GMT
#69
Fantastic games! Amazing finals with great narrative! Both played their hearts out and TY came SO CLOSE to taking it all. People were complaining about mirror match up finals but I'd bet this one didn't disappoint them. Let's goooooooo Blizzcon!
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
September 15 2018 17:39 GMT
#70
Great finals and gratz for Maru for pulling the Serral. Blizzcon will be fun.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
ProFalseIdol
Profile Joined June 2018
70 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 18:08:49
September 15 2018 17:50 GMT
#71
On September 15 2018 22:08 ArtyK wrote:
The perfect setup for Serral to crush Maru's hopes and dreams


He should qualify for GSL Code S first. And then win it 4 times in a row.

On September 15 2018 ArtyK wrote:
I just think it's crazy that people continue to disregard his unprecedented achievements this year.


I think you have to accept that fact that GSL Code S is still the hardest tournament to win in Starcraft II.
But yes, foreign scene has leveled up in skills and has gone as far as ro.4 in GSL Code S, that's a great progress.
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
September 15 2018 18:27 GMT
#72
On September 16 2018 02:50 ProFalseIdol wrote:
He should qualify for GSL Code S first. And then win it 4 times in a row.


1. Can Maru win 4 foreign WCS in a row if given the chance? Quite possibly
2. Can Serral win 3 GSLs in a row? No chance in hell

Nuff said
Argonauta
Profile Joined July 2016
Spain4954 Posts
September 15 2018 18:40 GMT
#73
On September 16 2018 03:27 Clazziquai10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2018 02:50 ProFalseIdol wrote:
He should qualify for GSL Code S first. And then win it 4 times in a row.


1. Can Maru win 4 foreign WCS in a row if given the chance? Quite possibly
2. Can Serral win 3 GSLs in a row? No chance in hell

Nuff said


Cant agree more
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showstealer1829
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Australia3123 Posts
September 15 2018 18:40 GMT
#74
It's going to be so amusing to me to see the reaction of the Serral fans when he implodes and fails to make it out of the Ro16
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Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany15988 Posts
September 15 2018 18:52 GMT
#75
On September 16 2018 03:40 showstealer1829 wrote:
It's going to be so amusing to me to see the reaction of the Serral fans when he implodes and fails to make it out of the Ro16

I mean, with the way blizzcon works it's not that unlikely. Let's say he faces TY and Rogue in the groupstage - I don't think it would be a massive surprise if Serral got knocked out there.
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Lgnarrow
Profile Joined April 2015
104 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 19:03:32
September 15 2018 19:02 GMT
#76
On September 16 2018 01:29 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2018 00:35 Lgnarrow wrote:
On September 15 2018 21:41 IshinShishi wrote:
On September 15 2018 22:32 Lgnarrow wrote:

You mean Life?

You mean Mvp?


Life > Mvp all day all night.
Life was playing during the highest skill era. SC2 was young, and without kespa players when Mvp was winning.
Mvp was lucky there were million of GSL's in 2011, when he was at his prime.

Life was a patchzerg while Mvp fought through injury.
One is a legend of sc2 while the other is a failure


You forgot about 2011, and first half of 2012, when terrans were winning everything ? Life was winning on good patches, but also showed he can dominate without good balance for him.
Lgnarrow
Profile Joined April 2015
104 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-15 19:03:03
September 15 2018 19:02 GMT
#77
fLyiNgDroNe
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium4019 Posts
September 15 2018 19:20 GMT
#78
On September 16 2018 00:50 opisska wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2018 22:45 fLyiNgDroNe wrote:
lol
took TL writers 1 hour to produce Maru's GSL win news.
Its been 6 days since Serral's WCS win and still no news post. No bias whatsoever.


"Bias" towards the tournament that actually matters. How shocking!

Do you also accuse your paper news of bias when they report on Chamipons League results and not the backyard friendly game in your local retirement home?


yeah your logic belongs to politics threads bro
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
September 15 2018 19:30 GMT
#79
On September 16 2018 01:29 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2018 00:35 Lgnarrow wrote:
On September 15 2018 21:41 IshinShishi wrote:
On September 15 2018 22:32 Lgnarrow wrote:

You mean Life?

You mean Mvp?


Life > Mvp all day all night.
Life was playing during the highest skill era. SC2 was young, and without kespa players when Mvp was winning.
Mvp was lucky there were million of GSL's in 2011, when he was at his prime.


Life was a patchzerg while Mvp fought through injury.
One is a legend of sc2 while the other is a failure


Life was a shamful matchfixer but let's not not go the patchzerg route. If anything, Terran had the most imbalanced era ever in Korea and Mvp just so happens to have been his most dominant during that period. Mvp would of course also prove himself when Terran wasn't doing so hot, but then again the same could've been attributed to Life.

Life's 2nd peak from Blizzcon 2014 - about season 2 of GSL/SSL is stll arguably the strongest peak we've ever had imo. Zerg wasn't that strong, the competiton was at its peak with everyone greatly adapted to HotS and despite all that Life seemed to be able to do just about anything and win.
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KaiserCommander
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico290 Posts
September 15 2018 19:38 GMT
#80
I really cannot understand pro-Serral trolls. Serral is incredible but all his achievement are in WCS ni way close of GSL level and Maru just took his goddamn 3rd CONSECUTIVE GSL title. He did beat the top of the top korean playes meanwhile Serral struggled against Lambo?. There is 0 comparison and Blizzcon will show you. No, GSL vs World is not a GSL and you troll know it.
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