EPTThoughts on auto-matchmaking - Page 5
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ToT)OjKa(
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
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lololol
5198 Posts
On June 04 2007 04:49 Heen wrote: You need to be banned for pure stupidity. I don't care how much heart this guy has, because this is crossing the line  Banning people for posting the truth is typical around here, so he'll be banned for sure, don't worry! | ||
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Pads
England3228 Posts
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lamarine
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if u want to play ladder - then random matchmaking... that's all and there's nothing to argue about... | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28837 Posts
option for manual match making is absolutely necessary. if I could choose only one of the two, I'd pick only manual for sure. but having both is totally sweet, and I don't see any reason why it should not be that way, other than possibility of abuse, but nobody who actually gets anywhere on the ladder will be able to abuse undetected anyway, and if some 14 year old abuses 10 games and brags to some other 14 year old friends of his about being top 500 then I honestly don't really see what the big deal is; it would definitely be much less of a big deal than the option for manual matchmaking being removed. | ||
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SoleSteeler
Canada5468 Posts
On June 04 2007 10:30 lololol wrote: Banning people for posting the truth is typical around here, so he'll be banned for sure, don't worry! No not really. I've probably played about 2000 ladder games on War3's AMM and have been disconnected maybe 5 times ever, maybe he needs a better connection? And you don't know the maps? Boo fucking hoo, learn them you idiot, there's only like 8 or so... how hard is it to learn 8 maps? | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32152 Posts
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Dendra
Croatia801 Posts
On June 04 2007 13:10 SoleSteeler wrote: No not really. I've probably played about 2000 ladder games on War3's AMM and have been disconnected maybe 5 times ever, maybe he needs a better connection? And you don't know the maps? Boo fucking hoo, learn them you idiot, there's only like 8 or so... how hard is it to learn 8 maps? the point is wc3 ladder counts a 0.000000001sec long game as a loss which is absolutely ridiculous. maps - they keep adding&removing maps+i'm not into wc3 so much i'll go and learn some chobo 6player map and analyse what every critter drops. think best time for a draw would be like 1:30 or so since you can do manner gas/pylon or something like that below 2min and people alt-q-q, kinda lame. that was especially on paranoid androide. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32152 Posts
On June 04 2007 13:46 Dendra wrote: the point is wc3 ladder counts a 0.000000001sec long game as a loss which is absolutely ridiculous. maps - they keep adding&removing maps+i'm not into wc3 so much i'll go and learn some chobo 6player map and analyse what every critter drops. think best time for a draw would be like 1:30 or so since you can do manner gas/pylon or something like that below 2min and people alt-q-q, kinda lame. that was especially on paranoid androide. They could probably have ladder admins review games like this. That was the stupidest shit, people used to do that all the time on PGT. I really hope this gets fixed. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Hopefully SC2 will still implement the tie system, if u drop it counts as a tie, but hopefully more complicated than that. | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
You lost 5 games in a row? That's most likely your problem alone. Even if it were BNet lagging at the time, it has nothing to do with the ladder system which is the discussion at hand. The map pool sucks, really? Most people have been content with it from what I've seen. Again, this has more to do with person preferences than with the ladder system. Then you complain about someone winning because he knows where to creep. Boo hoo. That's a big part of the game. Your dislike of WC3 holds no grounds for bashing its 'brilliant' ladder system. The problem with BW ladder is that it's a 10-year-old game, not that Blizzard is stupid. I'll take a guess and say that the reason that Blizzard hasn't changed the BW ladder is because they can't or it'll take too much effort. You need to make logical arguments that somehow contribute to the discussion. | ||
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Wizard
Poland5055 Posts
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SoleSteeler
Canada5468 Posts
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Dendra
Croatia801 Posts
On June 04 2007 15:14 Heen wrote: Dendra, you listed a bunch of problems that are totally unrelated to the ladder system. You lost 5 games in a row? That's most likely your problem alone. Even if it were BNet lagging at the time, it has nothing to do with the ladder system which is the discussion at hand. The map pool sucks, really? Most people have been content with it from what I've seen. Again, this has more to do with person preferences than with the ladder system. Then you complain about someone winning because he knows where to creep. Boo hoo. That's a big part of the game. Your dislike of WC3 holds no grounds for bashing its 'brilliant' ladder system. The problem with BW ladder is that it's a 10-year-old game, not that Blizzard is stupid. I'll take a guess and say that the reason that Blizzard hasn't changed the BW ladder is because they can't or it'll take too much effort. You need to make logical arguments that somehow contribute to the discussion. you didn't read my post, did you? counting a 1sec game in wc3 as a win/loss is not logical, you keep mentioning 5losses in a row, who cares if it was 1, or if it was 5 wins in a row, fact is 1sec game is not what we would call a ladder game in sc. as for the 2nd - don't take guesses. the issue i mentioned is well-known to the community and should be solved like mentioned - with the help of an admin. Next time you decide to comment something read it carefully. | ||
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gravity
Australia2198 Posts
On June 04 2007 13:46 Dendra wrote: the point is wc3 ladder counts a 0.000000001sec long game as a loss which is absolutely ridiculous. It has to be that way to stop people race/map-picking by quitting when they get ones they don't like. | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
On June 04 2007 17:41 Dendra wrote: you didn't read my post, did you? counting a 1sec game in wc3 as a win/loss is not logical, you keep mentioning 5losses in a row, who cares if it was 1, or if it was 5 wins in a row, fact is 1sec game is not what we would call a ladder game in sc. as for the 2nd - don't take guesses. the issue i mentioned is well-known to the community and should be solved like mentioned - with the help of an admin. Next time you decide to comment something read it carefully. You're the one lacking reading comprehension skills. Counting a 1 sec game as a win/loss is illogical? Says who? Only you apparently. It may be a different case in BW where the games are found by hand, but in AMM, of course all disconnects/early quits should be counted as losses. If not, then every time I got matchuped against someone really good or a matchup that I suck at, I could quit for a 100% loss prevention. It would be as gay as someone who just left the game early on because he messed up his BO or scouted 2 gate. Deal with it. As for the 2nd part, you can't just make all the changes you want with patches. Blizzard introduced right-click rallying from WC3 to BW. However, Blizzard can't one day decide to implement the same ladder system as WC3 into BW. | ||
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Dendra
Croatia801 Posts
On June 04 2007 18:11 Heen wrote: You're the one lacking reading comprehension skills. Counting a 1 sec game as a win/loss is illogical? Says who? Only you apparently. It may be a different case in BW where the games are found by hand, but in AMM, of course all disconnects/early quits should be counted as losses. If not, then every time I got matchuped against someone really good or a matchup that I suck at, I could quit for a 100% loss prevention. It would be as gay as someone who just left the game early on because he messed up his BO or scouted 2 gate. Deal with it. As for the 2nd part, you can't just make all the changes you want with patches. Blizzard introduced right-click rallying from WC3 to BW. However, Blizzard can't one day decide to implement the same ladder system as WC3 into BW. sure you could abuse leaving the game just like you can do it in sc, it just means amm would require alot of adjustements and this 1sec victory thing would be a big issue. just for the record - the most idiotic thing ever to be implemented in sc is the right click rally point, that has become like the only command in game with two hotkeys...i don't see siege tank mode hotkey on letters S and T for example - to avoid confusion. in my games it happend millions of times that one of my 10+ gates suddenly has a rally point on x point on the map - thx to the right click thing.i still use good old r+left click, call it a habit. every time blizzard starts adding things from wc3 they should make it as Optional. | ||
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milly9
Canada325 Posts
giveitamplzz: blizzard biggest mistake giveitamplzz: theyve ever made giveitamplzz: i dont know what they fuck they were thinking Zuhhhgling: im sure it sounded cool when they came up with it Zuhhhgling: but i mean Zuhhhgling: they shouldve realized instantly after trying it out | ||
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