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Australia18228 Posts
2017 WCS Challenger North America - RulingDuring WCS Challenger North America Cup #1, Blizzard Esports received multiple reports of a Terran player, Vindicta (a.k.a. Retribution, Nero), using hacks both in WCS matches and outside of the WCS. Here are the results of our investigation: Hacking Accusations - Vindicta
First, we conclude that Vindicta did not use hacks during his most recent WCS Challenger matches. Second, in the many public ladder matches reviewed by us, Vindicta was either not using hacks, or the reported account was not piloted by Vindicta at that time. In the course of our investigation, we discovered that Vindicta was one of several players logging into accounts that had been actioned for hacking in the past, and also had known hackers logging onto accounts under his name. In light of this, Vindicta has received a ban from play through WCS Austin and WCS Jönköping Challengers and main event, and his position in the WCS Challenger North America Playoffs has been revoked. Matches will be held among some players he eliminated in NA Cup #1 to determine his replacement. Account SharingWe discussed accounts sharing partially in our 2016 Ladder Challenger win-trading ruling, but we would like to reiterate our stance on account sharing. Allowing another player to log onto your account, or logging onto another player’s account is a violation of the Blizzard End User License Agreement. In cases where reports have been made against a shared account, all parties accessing the account may be held responsible by Blizzard Esports when disciplinary actions are taken. Sharing an account will expose your standing in the WCS to disciplinary action. Player Behavior - AviloBlizzard and our tournament administrators strive to provide the best possible tournament experience for our players. We take all reports seriously, especially reports of hacking by player in the WCS. Each report receives a thorough investigation. We also take player behavior very seriously. In the 2017 WCS Rules section 6.1 we outline our expectations that player will behave in a sportsmanlike manner outside of the game and treat all involved with respect. Avilo’s behavior during and after his match with Vindicta grossly violated our player conduct guidelines, and cannot be tolerated. Due to the continued breaches of conduct, he will be disqualified from any WCS Austin - Challenger NA competition. However, he will remain eligible for the open bracket at WCS Austin and all other WCS competitions. Source: https://wcs.starcraft2.com/en-us/news/20659264/2017-WCS-Challenger-North-America---Ruling/
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RIP AVILO
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Nice ruling regarding the hacker issue but the Avilo ruling is rather lenient. I would ban him from WCS Austin altogether at least but this one is OK.
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Wait isn't blizzard contradicting themselves? the fact that vindicta was confirmed hacker should offset avilo's rude behaviour towards him.
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Canada8988 Posts
On March 30 2017 13:44 AshC wrote: Nice ruling regarding the hacker issue but the Avilo ruling is rather lenient. I would ban him from WCS Austin altogether at least but this one is OK.
Well to be honest he would probably not make it out of the open bracket anyway those are usually super competitive.
On March 30 2017 13:47 THERIDDLER wrote: Wait isn't blizzard contradicting themselves? the fact that vindicta was confirmed hacker should offset avilo's rude behaviour towards him.
He wasn't using hack in the games according to blizzard, and I am guessing in their eyes you should only adress it to the admin and not insult the other guy in the stream.
Plus he accused of cheating (and insulted) another opponent tonight after losing to him, and also all his history of BM opponent in professional games.
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Regardless, he did overdue his behavior. Avilo lost his chances at Austin, unless he goes there and plays offline. As for Vindicta, he needs to be IP banned.
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Agree with this ruling 100%. Today Avilo accused Sorttorks (the Canadian Terran player who beat him and went onto qualify) of hacking. Again his behaviour violated the player conduct guidelines, especially in the language used. I really appreciate Blizzard's attention to following up on and enforcing their guidelines. This shows the integrity of Blizzard and their dedication to ensuring SC2 scene maintains the utmost sportsmanship and accountability.
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Just posting some "highlights" from Avilo's stream here. "Shit like this is why Trump got elected."
Suggesting that the other players boycott the tournament.
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The avilo DQ is unwarranted. I guarantee that if it was a well liked famous player that brings in major viewer numbers, blizzard wouldn't have DQed the player. They would have swept it under the rug. Glad to see blizzard take action against hackers though even though he actually wasn't caught hacking in the event. Funny how blizzard lets all the pros share barcode accounts, yet the pros play on each other's accounts all the time, even on livestream, see scarlet's past broadcasts. This was clearly a bias decision or perhaps an excuse just to boot avilo from qualifying and it is completely unjust.
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On March 30 2017 14:04 ReachTheSky wrote: The avilo DQ is unwarranted. I guarantee that if it was a well liked famous player that brings in major viewer numbers, blizzard wouldn't have DQed the player. They would have swept it under the rug. Glad to see blizzard take action against hackers though even though he actually wasn't caught hacking in the event. Funny how blizzard lets all the pros share barcode accounts, yet the pros play on each other's accounts all the time, even on livestream, see scarlet's past broadcasts. This was clearly a bias decision or perhaps an excuse just to boot avilo from qualifying and it is completely unjust.
I hope you are trolling, I really hope you are, anyone who heard Avilo's rant knows that it was unacceptable behaviour when matched to the guidelines. I believe Blizz are taking this opportunity to reinforce their stance on such matters.
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On March 30 2017 14:04 ReachTheSky wrote: The avilo DQ is unwarranted. I guarantee that if it was a well liked famous player that brings in major viewer numbers, blizzard wouldn't have DQed the player. They would have swept it under the rug. Glad to see blizzard take action against hackers though even though he actually wasn't caught hacking in the event. Funny how blizzard lets all the pros share barcode accounts, yet the pros play on each other's accounts all the time, even on livestream, see scarlet's past broadcasts. This was clearly a bias decision or perhaps an excuse just to boot avilo from qualifying and it is completely unjust.
The account sharing clause is just there so that players can't try to argue that while the account is theirs, they weren't the ones hacking/win-trading on that account at that time. If no one does anything against the rules using a shared account, Blizzard won't care.
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says a lot about company policy when nero gets away without a permaban.
Feel like permaban from WCS challenger is bit harsh even with avilo's uncalled for frustration and lash out against commentators, but Nero getting away relatively scot free after this? Astonishing really.
Read it over again and it was account ban from wcs event because of account sharing. Fair enough then. I rather hoped for Nero himself being banned from wcs events. Silly to see someone like that competing in WCS
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On March 30 2017 14:09 AxiomBlurr wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2017 14:04 ReachTheSky wrote: The avilo DQ is unwarranted. I guarantee that if it was a well liked famous player that brings in major viewer numbers, blizzard wouldn't have DQed the player. They would have swept it under the rug. Glad to see blizzard take action against hackers though even though he actually wasn't caught hacking in the event. Funny how blizzard lets all the pros share barcode accounts, yet the pros play on each other's accounts all the time, even on livestream, see scarlet's past broadcasts. This was clearly a bias decision or perhaps an excuse just to boot avilo from qualifying and it is completely unjust. I hope you are trolling, I really hope you are, anyone who heard Avilo's rant knows that it was unacceptable behaviour when matched to the guidelines. I believe Blizz are taking this opportunity to reinforce their stance on such matters.
Blizzard looks the other way when other well known, well liked pros that bring in lots of viewers share accounts. It's a fact. Scarlett sharing accounts with others while streaming goes swept under the rug. That is just one example. The koreans do it all the time as we already know. I can't speak for the europeans on that matter.
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On March 30 2017 14:12 jinjin5000 wrote: says a lot about company policy when nero gets away scott free.
Feel like permaban from WCS challenger is bit harsh even with avilo's uncalled for frustration and lash out against commentators, but Nero getting away after this? Astonishing really.
Ummm what?
In light of this, Vindicta has received a ban from play through WCS Austin and WCS Jönköping Challengers and main event, and his position in the WCS Challenger North America Playoffs has been revoked.
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On March 30 2017 14:12 jinjin5000 wrote: says a lot about company policy when nero gets away scott free.
Feel like permaban from WCS challenger is bit harsh even with avilo's uncalled for frustration and lash out against commentators, but Nero getting away after this? Astonishing really. Scott free? He's banned for the next 2 WCS events. That doesn't seem scott-free to me.
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Canada8988 Posts
On March 30 2017 14:04 ReachTheSky wrote: The avilo DQ is unwarranted. I guarantee that if it was a well liked famous player that brings in major viewer numbers, blizzard wouldn't have DQed the player. They would have swept it under the rug. Glad to see blizzard take action against hackers though even though he actually wasn't caught hacking in the event. Funny how blizzard lets all the pros share barcode accounts, yet the pros play on each other's accounts all the time, even on livestream, see scarlet's past broadcasts. This was clearly a bias decision or perhaps an excuse just to boot avilo from qualifying and it is completely unjust.
Humm blizz has ban big players like MarineLord when he was the best T in the foreing scene, they also banned other player like ( I think) Lillikenin, or what ever was his name, for BM before. Maybe other people should have been ban before but it's not a reason to let someone call other people who are trying to make a name in sc2 hackers in front of everybody.
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Blizzard bans the hacker from events but allows the hacker to continue to roam free on b.net. GO FIGURE.
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So i get punished for exposing the hacker and not thanked or given a second chance to qualify from the one i got robbed?
Blizzard logic at it's finest backwards. I hope the community does not put up for this bullshit, no matter if someone personally doesn't like me or not, i've never cheated in this game, and i just literally saved 3-4 other people that had their matches ruined by this hacker as well.
I deserve another chance to qualify as well. I had a right to be upset that they made me play vs him even before the match i presented evidence showing who he was, and they refused to DQ him. On top of that, WCS official casters live on stream gave me shit, as usual with their condescending tones (except tod) and even went so far as to lie and say hacks don't exist on SC2.
This is all around bullshit but i don't really expect much these days. I'm really hoping the SC2 community will stand up for me here, and the other players that are going to get another chance to qualify if they have any honor at all will stand up for me too for my chance to play that was robbed from me. Considering me even bringing all of this issue up in the first place is what is going to allow them to get re-games.
This is as usual another biased attempt against me from Blizzard. Just like when they permabanned me from the bnet forums for giving CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK about 3 rax reapers.
This is ridiculous.
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