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Tuczniak
1561 Posts
On February 01 2017 17:29 zyce wrote: That is so funny.Interesting, the 15-cost interceptors feel a bit too expensive. I think the 5-mineral increments will be a problem balancing this unit's cost unless they make gameplay changes. | ||
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parkufarku
882 Posts
On February 01 2017 18:22 Charoisaur wrote: You do realize that with this patch the liberator goes from 2-shotting stalkers to 3-shotting them? This massively reduces the efficiency against gateway units. I'm fully in favor of this nerf because I don't like liberators but if you think that further nerfs are needed you just don't understand the impact of this change. I wouldn't be surprised if balance swings into protoss favor with this change alone. And I don't really play terran anymore I mostly play zerg lately. It changes things from the harrassment aspect but doesn't change it in actual fights very much. In a army vs army fight, is the Terran army fully composed of libs? No, only like 4 or 5 supported with mass bio, mines, tanks. Libs still do 70+ damage per target - it's still massive DPS. The "3 hit to 2 hit stalker" argument would work if it was mostly liberators vs mostly stalkers but both P and T armies are mixed with a ton of different types of units. The DPS is still there - and that's a big problem. | ||
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pacholak
1 Post
On February 01 2017 09:38 LHK wrote: Anyone else locked at 60 FPS with all settings with this patch? I usually run about 500 frames on low and it's stuck at 60, can't seem to change it. I have. Dunno what to do with it! My regular fps is about 140-150. Now 59-60. Even 30 for a while! Unplayable! | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
On February 02 2017 08:26 pacholak wrote: I have. Dunno what to do with it! My regular fps is about 140-150. Now 59-60. Even 30 for a while! Unplayable! It is like that for everybody... enforced vSync... how could that ever slip by? Hands down worst patch ever. | ||
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Damien
Brazil131 Posts
https://uploaddeimagens.com.br/images/000/824/447/full/Screenshot2017-02-01_23_00_06.jpg?1486002470 I noticed that in windowed mode, my fps is 30, while in fullscreen is 60+. Can you guys help me with this? | ||
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Thalandros
Netherlands1151 Posts
The way Blizzard handled this is really bad.. Okay, the black screen was annoying (I personally barely had it, but some people had black screens for 3 seconds+), but forced vsync is awful. Just awful. Lots of us are running high refresh rate monitors or simply hate added input lag. SC2 is very wonky with FPS in fights so it dips into the 50-60s, even on really good systems. My question: WHY force vsync? They could've just recommended you turn it on in the client, or made an official statement about putting on vsync temporarily fixing it. This is just really bad on their part. Inexcusable. I wouldn't play if I didn't have an nvidia card right now. | ||
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insitelol
845 Posts
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
I loved rereading this post of mine from october 2th 2015, answering questions regarding the unit as per OP proposal: If you could make any changes to the Liberator, which would it be? TBH, I would have scrapped the unit and added a bio or bio-mech kind of unit. As it is, I'd change the Defender mode quite a bit: slightly reduce the range (too many long range units, overlaps with tank), nerf the base damage so it doesn't one shot a hydra and give it a small bonus damage against massive (there's no such unit in the terran arsenal? Would help against ultras). If the result is too underpowered, then I would reduce the cost. Feels good :D | ||
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warlocke
97 Posts
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parkufarku
882 Posts
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bObA
France300 Posts
In big fight with liberator nerf adn if you add widow mines nerf terran has no chance against protoss. I saw stats using templars more often and that rocks pretty well. | ||
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Exquisite7
34 Posts
On February 03 2017 07:33 parkufarku wrote: Liberators should just be removed from game. Not only are they broken, but even if they weren't, they overlap with the role of tanks. What's the point of two siege units for one race? one from air and one from ground? If anything, give P or Z something similar to what lib does. Disagree, they are good against entirely different units. And you need entirely different types of units to combat each of them. One is heavy splash and one is heavy single target. Terran has always been about the positioning and transforming units that always sacrifice one strength (like mobility) for a powerful attack. That's cool | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/sc2/topic/20753276048 A recent update to improve performance on FreeSync and G-Sync monitors has a side-effect of capping StarCraft II’s framerate to the monitor’s refresh rate. We’re already working on further improvements in a future patch and will continue to monitor this issue. We know this is affecting our players and we appreciate your patience and understanding as we work towards a better solution. | ||
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KOtical
Germany451 Posts
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parkufarku
882 Posts
On February 04 2017 08:41 Exquisite7 wrote: Disagree, they are good against entirely different units. And you need entirely different types of units to combat each of them. One is heavy splash and one is heavy single target. Terran has always been about the positioning and transforming units that always sacrifice one strength (like mobility) for a powerful attack. That's cool Ok give Terran 325 ways to deal X type of damage while the other races have 0 ways to do X type of damage Real cool. Hey why don't we give T the ability to warp-in and burrow while we're at it? Since T players see nothing wrong with one race hogging all the options and flexibility. Can you imagine walking your stalker force and a MnM group pops out of the ground beneath them and decimates them? That's be a fantastic idea. | ||
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Soldier21
1 Post
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Jason1
9 Posts
sc2 really need to nerf marines. 50 with ton of upgrades for marines which can also shoot air. no marines can't shoot air units kidding me. take away air attack from marines see how terrans do. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
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parkufarku
882 Posts
On February 06 2017 06:04 starkiller123 wrote: Terran would get absolutely destroyed if marines couldn't target air, wtf are you talking about. It wouldn't be a bad idea as long as T gets an anti-air compensation, like Cyclone anti-air buff or something at same time He has a point, the very first T1 units should not be able to defend against air. Queens are excluded from this because you can't mass them as easily as marines - they don't cost 50 and pop out super fast | ||
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Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
On February 06 2017 08:32 parkufarku wrote: It wouldn't be a bad idea as long as T gets an anti-air compensation, like Cyclone anti-air buff or something at same time He has a point, the very first T1 units should not be able to defend against air. Queens are excluded from this because you can't mass them as easily as marines - they don't cost 50 and pop out super fast Terran still needs to build an Engineering Bay just to get a Missile Turret. And they have nothing else that can shoot air reliably fast before an Oracle (or even a MSC) can arrive. Oracles would ravage everything in TvP, forcing Terran into an Engineering Bay and multiple Missile Turrets just to ward off the potential threat of the Oracle since your modified Marines can't shoot them down. If Protoss then comes in with a bunch of Blink Stalkers it's instant GG. It's not really an option. If Widow Mines are changed to not one-shot Oracles anymore then 6 early Marines will be the only truly viable defense in early game TvP. It sadly also forces Terran to get 6 early Marines in every single TvP, again because of the potential threat of the Oracle. It just pidgeon holes TvP openings even more. Either keep the Widow Mine as it is versus single targets and only reduce the splash or remove the Engineering Bay requirement for building a Missile Turret. | ||
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