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On April 22 2016 01:19 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Did you actually read what i wrote?
"I am not saying that i would send him to prison"
But the reasoning of "hey he is only 19 and it's just a videogame" is more than absurd. It isn't just a videogame in the context of Life and 19 is old enough to be responsible for the things you do. That's all i wanted to say.
"It's just a video game" was probably a bit simplistic but compared to REAL crimes like murder, theft or rape it's really nothing. A jail sentence is completely out of place.
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On April 21 2016 17:03 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2016 17:00 Yorkie wrote:On April 21 2016 16:59 lichter wrote:On April 21 2016 16:58 HolydaKing wrote:On April 21 2016 16:55 lichter wrote:
A better support structure is what is necessary. How do you raise a kid that's earned 400k and then let him squander it all away on vice and gambling? I heard he gave basically all of his prize money to his parents, not sure if true. So perhaps he wasn't quite that rich. It's a widely known "secret" that he had gambling problems It's Mvp that bought his parents a house. Still a big leap to say that he gambled literally all of his money away lol MC confirmed he saw him gamble 20000 away in one night. Make of that what you will.
20k in one night? I've only seen it in movies.
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I feel people are more willing to be lenient because Life was (one of) the best SC2 players rather than some tier 2/3 player that can be burnt at the stake without hurting the scene that much.
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On April 22 2016 01:33 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2016 01:19 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Did you actually read what i wrote?
"I am not saying that i would send him to prison"
But the reasoning of "hey he is only 19 and it's just a videogame" is more than absurd. It isn't just a videogame in the context of Life and 19 is old enough to be responsible for the things you do. That's all i wanted to say. "It's just a video game" was probably a bit simplistic but compared to REAL crimes like murder, theft or rape it's really nothing. A jail sentence is completely out of place.
Good thing you aren't a lawmaker then.
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On April 22 2016 01:40 KeksX wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2016 01:33 Charoisaur wrote:On April 22 2016 01:19 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Did you actually read what i wrote?
"I am not saying that i would send him to prison"
But the reasoning of "hey he is only 19 and it's just a videogame" is more than absurd. It isn't just a videogame in the context of Life and 19 is old enough to be responsible for the things you do. That's all i wanted to say. "It's just a video game" was probably a bit simplistic but compared to REAL crimes like murder, theft or rape it's really nothing. A jail sentence is completely out of place. Good thing you aren't a lawmaker then.
So you would compare cheating in a videogame to terrible crimes upon fellow man?
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I just don't undersand it. BByong grabbed freaking 30k$ like it was a great deal. and when the Life got caught he suddenly began to feel guilty about it. If he was afraid to get caught, there's no guarantee he fixed only that one exact series. And it also suggests no one feared fixing at that time, so there's absolutely no agreement that all fixes have been already found out. Yet people are much more lenient on BBYong.
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On April 22 2016 01:45 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2016 01:40 KeksX wrote:On April 22 2016 01:33 Charoisaur wrote:On April 22 2016 01:19 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Did you actually read what i wrote?
"I am not saying that i would send him to prison"
But the reasoning of "hey he is only 19 and it's just a videogame" is more than absurd. It isn't just a videogame in the context of Life and 19 is old enough to be responsible for the things you do. That's all i wanted to say. "It's just a video game" was probably a bit simplistic but compared to REAL crimes like murder, theft or rape it's really nothing. A jail sentence is completely out of place. Good thing you aren't a lawmaker then. So you would compare cheating in a videogame to terrible crimes upon fellow man?
Why do you all feel the need to downplay Life's crime as much as possible? "cheating in a videogame"
Srsly?
If you should go to jail for what he did is another disucssion, but can we pls not pretend he simply left a laddergame he had won so someone else would get the points.
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You were the chosen one!
Sad to see my second favorite player of all time leaves the scene this way... 
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I haven't watched GSL for about a year or so but I remember these two. Very sad to hear, but I agree they should be permabanned by Kespa, it's the only way the other players will know to take these things seriously.
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Funny to me how the public statement about the life for Leenock trade was that Life "requested" to be traded. He either wanted to go to a smaller team because he knew he was being investigated and wanted to be out of the limelight or KT knew what was up and wanted him gone so it wouldn't stain their reputation.
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In the land of prosecution, "turned himself in" usually means was instructed to rat ppl out to take a reduced sentence.
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They payed him to lose one specific map, as you can bet on single matches and not only sets.
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Hong Kong9179 Posts
On April 22 2016 01:33 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2016 01:19 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Did you actually read what i wrote?
"I am not saying that i would send him to prison"
But the reasoning of "hey he is only 19 and it's just a videogame" is more than absurd. It isn't just a videogame in the context of Life and 19 is old enough to be responsible for the things you do. That's all i wanted to say. "It's just a video game" was probably a bit simplistic but compared to REAL crimes like murder, theft or rape it's really nothing. A jail sentence is completely out of place.
gambling is illegal in korea
thus real crime
game over for your argument
get out
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On April 22 2016 02:15 Dionyseus wrote:
I haven't watched GSL for about a year or so but I remember these two. Very sad to hear, but I agree they should be permabanned by Kespa, it's the only way the other players will know to take these things seriously.
That's just not true though. Nobody has ever considered a crime and thought "oh the punishment for this is only a year ban as opposed to a life ban, I guess I can do it!"
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Good luck to Bbyong.
Nothing new on the sentencing here. Exactly the justice expected from this court.
Hopefully SC2 can put this behind it.
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"It's only a video game" is a completely inane hypocritical argument
esports is a multimillion dollar industry BUILT on the fact that these players are giving their all to compete with each other, and that we are able to take the results of individual matches as legitimate
match fixing completely unravels the foundation of that industry
so sure, it's "just a video game" that supports hundreds of peoples' livelihoods and hundreds of thousands of peoples' passions
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Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
On April 22 2016 01:33 Charoisaur wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2016 01:19 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Did you actually read what i wrote?
"I am not saying that i would send him to prison"
But the reasoning of "hey he is only 19 and it's just a videogame" is more than absurd. It isn't just a videogame in the context of Life and 19 is old enough to be responsible for the things you do. That's all i wanted to say. "It's just a video game" was probably a bit simplistic but compared to REAL crimes like murder, theft or rape it's really nothing. A jail sentence is completely out of place.
You do know that what they are doing is rigging the bets, which is pretty similar to theft in nature? Financial crime is just like theft, but there are more victims.
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18 months in prison for match fixing? Thats way too much.
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On April 22 2016 01:49 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2016 01:45 Cricketer12 wrote:On April 22 2016 01:40 KeksX wrote:On April 22 2016 01:33 Charoisaur wrote:On April 22 2016 01:19 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Did you actually read what i wrote?
"I am not saying that i would send him to prison"
But the reasoning of "hey he is only 19 and it's just a videogame" is more than absurd. It isn't just a videogame in the context of Life and 19 is old enough to be responsible for the things you do. That's all i wanted to say. "It's just a video game" was probably a bit simplistic but compared to REAL crimes like murder, theft or rape it's really nothing. A jail sentence is completely out of place. Good thing you aren't a lawmaker then. So you would compare cheating in a videogame to terrible crimes upon fellow man? Why do you all feel the need to downplay Life's crime as much as possible? "cheating in a videogame" Srsly? If you should go to jail for what he did is another disucssion, but can we pls not pretend he simply left a laddergame he had won so someone else would get the points.
I don't pretend like he simply left a laddergame. Lifetime ban from sc2 is completely appropiate I just think jail is completely out of place for what he did and I'm disgusted by people who wish him to go to jail. I bet none of you has the slightest clue how it is in jail. That's not something you wish to anyone except he really did something terrible like murder etc.
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