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ProtossMasterRace
57 Posts
On January 26 2016 19:22 ETisME wrote: These are big nerf to protoss, surprised nothing is buff to compensate other than the damage. Protoss has to reconfigure their builds with this nerf Protoss will have around 30-40% winrate against terran and probably single digit against zerg. The glory days of starcraft are over. | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4514 Posts
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Zanzabarr
Canada217 Posts
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Nazara
United Kingdom235 Posts
1 base stargate into expand? 3 gate expand? Seems like it's going to be a bad time to be a toss. | ||
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Gwavajuice
France1810 Posts
Now that the Seed vs Bomber bullshit is fixed (I hope so...) there's still one big crap to get rid of : tankivacs and the TvT dumbness. | ||
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[PkF] Wire
France24192 Posts
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On January 26 2016 13:45 StarscreamG1 wrote: Now everybody will notice how weak lotv protoss is. Without the economic lead PO and Adepts were giving, liberayors and ravagers will demolish protoss. Openers in both matchups have to be a fair bit safer. (Or we need a whole new map pool that is P favoured). Vs terrans P needeed to kill like 6-8 SCVs to get to even. I believe PvT will be close to even. Nothing huge anyway. But PvZ will be a fucking pain. | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On January 26 2016 15:43 starslayer wrote: LOVING the protoss tears in this thread its great, maybe now toss wont PO a scouting scv or an OL ( prolly still will) and maybe have to think about when to Overcharge rather then being about to spam it and make units again, also hopefully they cant just take 3 base off one unit and a couple pylons for the threat of pylon rushes or warp prism drops. It really sad how toss think its ok too be so greedy and basically defend everything. but if terran or zerg could do it, its a problem. this patch is very much needed and hopefully toss understand you should need units to defend bases and not supply structures. and think about it if toss does go to shit that means (hopefully) blizzard will buff units and not one of the worst designed abilities ever created. (which they should've done in HOTS) also there is still alot of work on LOTV to become a good game mass libs is just silly needs tech lab,"skill shot" ravagers still need a look at, shade increase for adepts, channeling snipe, boring infestors, cyclone are just like the reaper in that you use them early to push away banshee/ warp prisms and thats really it, tankvac is just silly, warp prism range needs to be like 3 not 6. if no tech lab for libs no upgrade. and maybe not sure yet a slight dmg nerf to distruptors but idk yet. but ill say blizzard is listening and taking the right steps.small slow steps but were getting there. So you are claiming Protoss bases are earlier than Zergs. Get out! | ||
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Mozdk
Denmark6989 Posts
On January 26 2016 19:25 ProtossMasterRace wrote: Protoss will have around 30-40% winrate against terran and probably single digit against zerg. The glory days of starcraft are over. 30-40% is really yelling "worst update ever". It will definately not be that bad. No one will take you seriously when you are claiming things the whole scene knows not to be true. From bronze to GM. | ||
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DarkGamer
Germany312 Posts
please take in mind that adepts are still strong and photon overcharge as well! | ||
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SeriousLus
169 Posts
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ProtossMasterRace
57 Posts
On January 26 2016 20:38 Mozdk wrote: 30-40% is really yelling "worst update ever". It will definately not be that bad. No one will take you seriously when you are claiming things the whole scene knows not to be true. From bronze to GM. PvZ is already at 41% and there is a toss nerf so it can only go lower. | ||
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Ace Frehley
2030 Posts
On January 26 2016 19:22 ETisME wrote: These are big nerf to protoss, surprised nothing is buff to compensate other than the damage. Protoss has to reconfigure their builds with this nerf That's the point. If you are too strong and get 'compensation' after a nerf, nothing really changes. And adepts+warp prism will still be a pain in the ass and keep terran stuck in their base for a while | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4514 Posts
On January 26 2016 20:56 ProtossMasterRace wrote: PvZ is already at 41% and there is a toss nerf so it can only go lower. As long as you can win premier tournaments by beating zergs 4-1 in the finals it's all good, right? | ||
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AbouSV
Germany1278 Posts
What will be the energy for PO? | ||
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IcemanAsi
Israel681 Posts
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Elentos
55456 Posts
On January 26 2016 21:02 AbouSV wrote: What is the starting energy for MSC? What will be the energy for PO? Starting energy is 50. So it spawns with one PO ready after the patch when it spawned with energy for 2 before. | ||
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AbouSV
Germany1278 Posts
On January 26 2016 21:09 Elentos wrote: Starting energy is 50. So it spawns with one PO ready after the patch when it spawned with energy for 2 before. To be pinned for all those arguing that you will have to wait to be able to PO for the first time when the MSC pops. Thank you! | ||
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Skytale1i
31 Posts
Against T something needed to change, though middle/late game will probably be hard. | ||
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ProtossMasterRace
57 Posts
On January 26 2016 20:58 Laurens wrote: As long as you can win premier tournaments by beating zergs 4-1 in the finals it's all good, right? It was really well played by the protoss obviously and bad by the zerg. There is nothing more to it. | ||
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