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DeadByDawn
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom476 Posts
February 01 2016 02:33 GMT
#361
On February 01 2016 11:24 parkufarku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 10:37 Lexender wrote:
On February 01 2016 10:34 parkufarku wrote:
On January 31 2016 12:26 Charoisaur wrote:
On January 31 2016 12:22 parkufarku wrote:
Terran is undisputedly the strongest late game race, with the most cost effective supply options, and static defensive options ( good luck trying to block through several PFs that are being repaired and supported by turrets)

tempest ht and broodlord viper is far superior than everything terran can make.


lol?

Mass BCs, Ravens, Thors, Liberators will demolish anything that Protoss / Zerg throw at them.


If you've said something like ghost/liberator it might have made some sense, but BCs? Thors? Ravens? These unit suck in current LotV.


I did say Libs.

Yeah you got lucky by mentioning one unit that is actually good (if not a little OP in the absence of PB).
CheddarToss
Profile Joined September 2015
534 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 02:50:17
February 01 2016 02:49 GMT
#362
What is the exactly the role of Mutas in PvZ in LotV? They do not resemble the nimble harass unit from BW the least bit. What is the reasoning behind them being stronger than anything Protoss have on the ground?
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
February 01 2016 03:09 GMT
#363
On February 01 2016 11:49 CheddarToss wrote:
What is the exactly the role of Mutas in PvZ in LotV? They do not resemble the nimble harass unit from BW the least bit. What is the reasoning behind them being stronger than anything Protoss have on the ground?


Can I do a "How to construct an argument on TL 101" with this?
First, ask a question that you are implicitly answering yourself later on.
Then, outline how something is different to how it was in Broodwar, which unlike to more reasonable forums like TL_BW is an argument in itself here.
At last, let out your inner Hitler and blow something completely out of proportion.
CheddarToss
Profile Joined September 2015
534 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-01 11:21:27
February 01 2016 11:20 GMT
#364
On February 01 2016 12:09 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 11:49 CheddarToss wrote:
What is the exactly the role of Mutas in PvZ in LotV? They do not resemble the nimble harass unit from BW the least bit. What is the reasoning behind them being stronger than anything Protoss have on the ground?


Can I do a "How to construct an argument on TL 101" with this?
First, ask a question that you are implicitly answering yourself later on.
Then, outline how something is different to how it was in Broodwar, which unlike to more reasonable forums like TL_BW is an argument in itself here.
At last, let out your inner Hitler and blow something completely out of proportion.

1) Yeah maybe, but I'm frustrated with the insane focus on Adepts, while the Zerg Adept gets 0 attention and has been ruining PvZ since forever, and even more so since LotV beta.
2) Comparing with Broodwar is good. We as a community should have done it more often. Broodwar is tried, tested and proven to be an awesome game. SC2 is a good game, but jury is still out whether it is a truly great game.
3) So you are saying that Protoss have a chance at winning without responding with mass Phoenix or going all-in? No? So how is what I'm saying "At last, let out your inner Hitler and blow something completely out of proportion"?
parkufarku
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
882 Posts
February 01 2016 17:15 GMT
#365
On February 01 2016 11:33 DeadByDawn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2016 11:24 parkufarku wrote:
On February 01 2016 10:37 Lexender wrote:
On February 01 2016 10:34 parkufarku wrote:
On January 31 2016 12:26 Charoisaur wrote:
On January 31 2016 12:22 parkufarku wrote:
Terran is undisputedly the strongest late game race, with the most cost effective supply options, and static defensive options ( good luck trying to block through several PFs that are being repaired and supported by turrets)

tempest ht and broodlord viper is far superior than everything terran can make.


lol?

Mass BCs, Ravens, Thors, Liberators will demolish anything that Protoss / Zerg throw at them.


If you've said something like ghost/liberator it might have made some sense, but BCs? Thors? Ravens? These unit suck in current LotV.


I did say Libs.

Yeah you got lucky by mentioning one unit that is actually good (if not a little OP in the absence of PB).


I got lucky...what? If anything you're the one lucky abusing a race that is stronger than others at the moment and having Protoss nerfed (wut?) while Terran isn't getting nerfed. Enjoy the free wins.
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
February 24 2016 13:29 GMT
#366
Sorry to bump this, but after 2 weeks of code S and 3 weeks of proleague, I find many of these comments hilarious.

I can't wait for the next thread about how Zerg are weak in LotV (cause, you know, 0/4 qualified in the first 3 groups of GSL) I hope it will be as entertaining as this one.

Also, can someone create a ZergMasterRace account, please? Or CamembertZerg?

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on a more serious note I think it's important to look back at the shit we said, and see how some threads can be clueless and misleading sometimes - it must be horrifying to be new to the game and come here to read this kind of stuff...

Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
jetameta34
Profile Joined February 2016
1 Post
Last Edited: 2016-02-24 18:03:03
February 24 2016 17:51 GMT
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