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Nakajin
Canada8991 Posts
On December 22 2015 10:17 ChillingFrog89 wrote: it is disappointing but you are correct, these sc2 tournament is descending from esport which were competitve to merely a event now. How is that anything close to what he was saying? | ||
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sagi
Finland346 Posts
On December 22 2015 10:10 achan1058 wrote: Ah well, I may drop in on the live report thread to see whether it is anything worth while. I rather spend that time watching GSL VOD's and such. That, and Hearthstone if they have it at Dreamhack. No region locking there last time I checked. But Hearthstone is so casual. Uno world championships is where the real card games are at. They regionlocked the spanish speaking world and the italians out of the tournament because they had a huge cultural edge. | ||
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achan1058
1091 Posts
On December 22 2015 10:25 sagi wrote: But Hearthstone is so casual. Uno world championships is where the real card games are at. They regionlocked the spanish speaking world and the italians out of the tournament because they had a huge cultural edge. The thing is, by introducing Swiss format and all that, Dreamhack Hearthstone is setting themselves up to be what a great tournament should be. It's the opposite of what they are doing to SC2. | ||
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showstealer1829
Australia3123 Posts
On December 22 2015 09:45 BoB_KiLLeR wrote: So much missinformation regarding IEM Taiwan in here. IEM Taiwan will be a global event. Oddly though, it doesn't meet the requirements for a global event, such as +16 players and only having $25k prizepool. Maybe IEM Taiwan won't be a WCS point tournament at all. http://de.intelextrememasters.com/season10/asia/ It's NOT a Global event, it's an "Invitational", or roughly translated "Fuck you Koreans, go play for table scraps" Anyway on topic, Fuck this DH, we're now two for two in tournaments in Europe next year I give zero fucks about | ||
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Kompicek
Czech Republic245 Posts
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covetousrat
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Nine Gates
Finland198 Posts
On December 22 2015 10:44 covetousrat wrote: Effectively. There's technically the "WCS Global Event" possibility, but chances are none will ever be held. Blizzard probably added it to the list to be able to claim that they didn't completely ban Koreans.So no more koreans in all foreign tounaments? | ||
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ChillingFrog89
25 Posts
On December 22 2015 10:22 Nakajin wrote: How is that anything close to what he was saying? region locking defies fair competition, this is against the moral of sportsmanship, it is literally just an event ,and it is not qualify to be called sports/esports. | ||
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calh
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kju
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Chaggi
Korea (South)1936 Posts
And this guy is right. If you really love StarCraft and have so much passion then you should support our game anyway. But why? It's not the game I really want to follow anymore. This is like College sports vs Professional sports in the United States. I enjoy watching the NFL and only enjoy watching college football if my school is playing. Otherwise, what's the point? Should I watch all football just to support the sport? There's no better way to show Blizzard I am unhappy other than not watching this abomination. | ||
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Thax
Belgium1060 Posts
On December 22 2015 06:36 Lemartes wrote: I hope polt goes there and just wins it, would be so much fun to have another year with no foreign champ, especially with the new system  People like you are what's wrong with this community. It's fine to prefer Koreans and not like the current system much, but your mindset is just vile and toxic. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On December 22 2015 11:09 Thax wrote: People like you are what's wrong with this community. It's fine to prefer Koreans and not like the current system much, but your mindset is just vile and toxic. No, people like you are what's wrong with this community. Some of us just want to watch the best Starcraft without jingoism and racism attached to it. That you think a system like that could be created without experiencing a backlash is just laughable. Boo hoo, the yellow skins are taking all the prize money and not leaving anything for the white skins. Need affirmative action for the white skins. | ||
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covetousrat
2109 Posts
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MaCRo.gg
Korea (South)860 Posts
We should know by the Code A qualifiers right? On December 22 2015 09:42 Deathstar wrote: Competition isn't important to a lot of these people. They just want koreans gone. It is sickening to see these types of tweets from foreigner players, just trash attitude. While having a positive attitude about the new WCS system is reasonable response, coming out and proudly displaying anti-Korean agenda is pure garbage. | ||
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nighcol
298 Posts
On December 22 2015 11:41 covetousrat wrote: Wouldnt this reduce the number viewership for foreign events. I for one only watch koreans especially Kespa players. I do not feel any hype towards these foreigner events anymore. Maybe its just me. Its like watching Code B after Code S. The theory that people want to watch foreigners because they can relate to them better is finally put to the test. My fear is that the people that are still interested in sc2 are mostly the people who like watching Koreans play. The popular response on here and reddit sure seems to give some credibility to that fear. SC2 might not be pulling new audiences in anyway at this point and so many of the foreign stars with lots of fans already retired too. I do still see why this might be a good thing for sc2 but I'm not really sure of how it will play out... | ||
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Kofuku
31 Posts
On December 22 2015 09:40 bypLy wrote: It will be a lowtier and boring tournement because the approx 50 best players worldwide are missing. Image this is any other sports... Actually in other sports region locking is pretty common. The Liga ACB is probably the second best non-tournament basketball league in the world and it basically has a limitation of two Americans per team. It's not the NBA, but it's also not meant to be the NBA and can't really compete against the NBA. And still, it has its own important niche and a passionate fan base. I'm looking forward to this event, and to other WCS Circuit events, and to GSL, and to S2SL. There's enough room in my heart to love all SC2 events <3 | ||
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Solar424
United States4001 Posts
On December 22 2015 11:40 andrewlt wrote: No, people like you are what's wrong with this community. Some of us just want to watch the best Starcraft without jingoism and racism attached to it. Then go watch GSL | ||
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pajoondies
United States316 Posts
On December 22 2015 11:56 nighcol wrote: The theory that people want to watch foreigners because they can relate to them better is finally put to the test. My fear is that the people that are still interested in sc2 are mostly the people who like watching Koreans play. The popular response on here and reddit sure seems to give some credibility to that fear. SC2 might not be pulling new audiences in anyway at this point and so many of the foreign stars with lots of fans already retired too. I do still see why this might be a good thing for sc2 but I'm not really sure of how it will play out... completely agree with everything you've said, i'm hoping for the best but fearing the worst i've always thought that part of the fun of rooting for foreigners is that they might have a chance at topping high level koreans for a tournament win (Scarlett in 2013, Snute and Bunny over the last few years, Lilbow this year) | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On December 22 2015 12:02 Kofuku wrote: Actually in other sports region locking is pretty common. The Liga ACB is probably the second best non-tournament basketball league in the world and it basically has a limitation of two Americans per team. It's not the NBA, but it's also not meant to be the NBA and can't really compete against the NBA. And still, it has its own important niche and a passionate fan base. I'm looking forward to this event, and to other WCS Circuit events, and to GSL, and to S2SL. There's enough room in my heart to love all SC2 events <3 Yeah, I don't know why everyone is so surprised that region locking isn't a new or uncommon practice. I'm also looking forward to this. I enjoy the Korean tournaments more, but I'll enjoy this more than 1/2 and 1/2 events where the ro16 (minus 1 or 2) are predictable. | ||
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