EPTYoDa, B4, Gerrard arrested for match-fixing - Page 48
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Based on the official Police investigation, only the above players have been implicated in matchfixing. There is no reason to further accuse other players and teams until we get more information. Incessant blind accusations will not be tolerated. Please read the thread and the updates before posting. As of page 54 we will be moderating against match fixing accusations for players who were not caught in this incident, including those using voided Pinnacle bets as evidence. | ||
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
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Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On October 19 2015 17:52 Musicus wrote: I don't understand this. How does his shitty situation make it less infuriating? Of course nobody who is on a good team and makes enough money will ever risk doing something like this. People who do this will always be in a shitty situation. They still have to suck it up and stop the progaming dream and work at a mcdonals or anything to make a living, instead of fucking matchfixing which could potentially destroy the scene that has given them everything. And somehow you think giving up your dream is a matter of "just doing it"? With the coach (probably nearest a father figure to many players) supporting and even encouraging the match fixing, it's not difficult to see the dilemma. | ||
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
On October 19 2015 17:54 Zealously wrote: And somehow you think giving up your dream is a matter of "just doing it"? With the coach (probably nearest a father figure to many players) supporting and even encouraging the match fixing, it's not difficult to see the dilemma. the coach is the real piece of shit here for sure. | ||
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Elentos
55594 Posts
On October 19 2015 17:53 opisska wrote: The most surprising thing about this is that it was even worth it. There are even PL matches - who the hell was betting ON Prime players in PL? Who are the people they made money off? Throwing makes sense only when you are supposed to win. Especially B4. I mean, he played awful in almost every game and most of them apparently weren't fixed. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
On October 19 2015 17:54 Zealously wrote: And somehow you think giving up your dream is a matter of "just doing it"? With the coach (probably nearest a father figure to many players) supporting and even encouraging the match fixing, it's not difficult to see the dilemma. Well Gerrard was in an even more shitty situation. His dream of supporting a sc2 team, huge amounts of debt because of that etc..., just saying that everybody who does this is usually in a shitty situation. It's in those times when your true character shows. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
 On October 19 2015 17:48 Zealously wrote: I have to say I can't really be as angry at YoDa as I'd like to be. Caught on a shitty team during a career downturn with retirement imminent, no interest from sponsors or other teams, no salary paid out - I can see why he felt pressured into accepting betting money I wish I could say the same. I've been a fan of his for a while and always hoped he'd find a way to get things turned around and I'm very sad it won't happen. I'd like to feel sorry and blame his situation or coach but ultimately he is responsible for his choices. I hope this discourages further match-fixing. | ||
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baldgye
United Kingdom1114 Posts
I used to work in a shop and would get hounded by the same kinds of customers regarding Lottery tickets, if one wasn't a winner I would just throw it away automatically as most people didn't want them, but some people thought that I was actually keeping winners and stealing money from them. The number of times I had to explain that winning £10-20 grand wasn't actually worth loosing my job and then finding it very hard to get a job going forward after been a caught and tried cheat (as cheaters very rarely win). And I see similarities with this situation. I feel sorry for Yoda and the other players involved because what they were saying by there actions was "this is how much I deem my career and future to be worth"... that's sad, really really sad. | ||
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DreamOen
Spain1400 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37120 Posts
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
On October 19 2015 18:03 DreamOen wrote: I'm just sad that some players are in that bad of a situation or psycologically weak to fall into matchfixing after what savior scandal meant to the scene. The fact that the sc2 scene can't give every player a feeling of securtiy and what they deserver for their hard work is indeed sad. Hopefully things will get better and players will never have to think of something like this again. Sadly this case doesn't help sc2's developement :/. | ||
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Nerchio
Poland2633 Posts
On October 19 2015 18:07 Musicus wrote: The fact that the sc2 scene can't give every player a feeling of securtiy and what they deserver for their hard work is indeed sad. Hopefully things will get better and players will never have to think of something like this again. Sadly this case doesn't help :/. If you can't handle such pressure then you shouldn't compete anywhere. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23580 Posts
On October 19 2015 18:07 Nerchio wrote: If you can't handle such pressure then you shouldn't compete anywhere. That's also true, I still hope that the scene gets healthy enough so nobody will ever think of this again. | ||
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REyeM
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Lorning
Belgica34432 Posts
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pure.Wasted
Canada4701 Posts
On October 19 2015 17:52 Musicus wrote: I don't understand this. How does his shitty situation make it less infuriating? Of course nobody who is on a good team and makes enough money will ever risk doing something like this. People who do this will always be in a shitty situation. They still have to suck it up and stop the progaming dream and work at a mcdonals or anything to make a living, instead of fucking matchfixing which could potentially destroy the scene that has given them everything. People do bad things. That doesn't make them bad people. (Gerrard sounds like a piece of work, though, but I'm sure that even he, from his perspective, was the good guy trying to do the right thing.) | ||
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rednusa
651 Posts
On October 19 2015 14:26 Die4Ever wrote: Good point on Byun, I hope he gets to play again for real If that's true, then it's possible that match-fixing has been going on for a long time? When did ByuN even last try to qualify for an offline tournament? His last GSL appearance was in 2013. I hope those players who knew about it, refused to participate in it but ultimately afraid to speak out about it are not harshly punished. | ||
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