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Based on the official Police investigation, only the above players have been implicated in matchfixing. There is no reason to further accuse other players and teams until we get more information. Incessant blind accusations will not be tolerated. Please read the thread and the updates before posting.

As of page 54 we will be moderating against match fixing accusations for players who were not caught in this incident, including those using voided Pinnacle bets as evidence.
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2630 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 08:10:39
October 19 2015 08:00 GMT
#901
Make's me feel like an idiot for taking this picture to be honest.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11885300_10205030517110430_4769519037896326533_n.jpg?oh=aa8809bf1da8efa98e600e1876c918ae&oe=56CAA2FE&__gda__=1452031208_5243728163a06da246d397d9ce2fc62d
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
October 19 2015 08:00 GMT
#902
On October 19 2015 16:53 HaRuHi wrote:
I immediately have a game before my eyes, where an inbase proxy crawler was scouted "accidentally" and missed for a good 2 minutes during the early game on the minimap when nothing else was going on. I am not accusing anyone, maybe the guy knew that the other guy did his cheese so badly to intentionally lose and reacted by intentionally losing himself.

I love the taste of drama in the morning.

You're not funny.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
October 19 2015 08:02 GMT
#903
On October 19 2015 16:59 xenonn40 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 16:52 Chant1 wrote:
Second I think E sport industry in general are over reacting "with ban for life", even Olympic committee or FIFA do not ban their players for life.


Have you heard of the baseball player named Pete Rose?

One of the greatest. He then bet on baseball and is banned for life.

No one outside US cares about baseball

Anyway, last 3 weeks were a disaster after disaster.
First I sprained my ankle so luckily it still hurts today.
Then TB/Axiom
Then my car broke(5th gear in gearbox is out, yay ><)
Then this

Why is this happening? WHY? So sad
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
October 19 2015 08:04 GMT
#904
On October 19 2015 16:52 Chant1 wrote:
South Korea Judicial system is a mess, they can charge you with fee for smoking pot in Amsterdam.
Second I think E sport industry in general are over reacting "with ban for life", even Olympic committee or FIFA do not ban their players for life.
I think ban for year and financial fee is enough. They will have this scandal for their entire life.
I think any player caught match-fixing in any major sport would be banned for life. Have you heard of Pete Rose? He was one of the best baseball players ever, got caught betting for his own team, and was still banned for life.

I always thought Choya came off as a nice guy, and I think that tweet confirms it. We really need to be focusing our scorn on Gerrard here. Yeah, he was in a tough situation, but the solution to that is to close up gracefully, not drag vulnerable kids into shit like this.
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 19 2015 08:04 GMT
#905
On October 19 2015 17:00 Brutaxilos wrote:
Make's me feel like an idiot for taking this picture to be honest.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11885300_10205030517110430_4769519037896326533_n.jpg?oh=aa8809bf1da8efa98e600e1876c918ae&oe=56CAA2FE&__gda__=1452031208_5243728163a06da246d397d9ce2fc62d]fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net

Link doesn't work
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Ventil
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden414 Posts
October 19 2015 08:07 GMT
#906
Holy crap, this is bad.
Twitter: @VeNtiLSC
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
October 19 2015 08:08 GMT
#907
Wow!

Most surprising is the tiny tiny amounts of money it took to fix these matches.

I've never said it before, but I am jumping aboard the dead game train. I don't really believe SC2 will survive for more than a few years max.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
ilovegroov
Profile Joined January 2015
357 Posts
October 19 2015 08:08 GMT
#908
On October 19 2015 12:22 RoninKenshin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 12:02 LongShot27 wrote:
On October 19 2015 12:01 Scarecrow wrote:
On October 19 2015 12:00 LongShot27 wrote:
On October 19 2015 11:59 Scarecrow wrote:
On October 19 2015 11:56 Coypirus wrote:
Wow feel bad for Gerrard now.

He was the adult here. He made tens of thousands of dollars through crime, corrupted his players and severely damaged the scene just to keep his shitty team afloat...


"Corrupted his players" easy there

He's responsible for them and meant to be looking out for their best interests, not offering them criminal opportunities in the team house.


He didn't corrupt anyone. It's so far only one player and Yoda is an adult. Did he fuck up yes. Is he going to pay the price yes. Did he "corrupt" his players, no.


I don't know what actually went down, but I think you should give a little benefit of doubt or at least wait out to hear testimonies before coming down on Yoda. Yoda is 22 years old and has been playing full-time Starcraft since he was at least 18. While he is legally an adult, I don't know any 22 year olds who have it together. When you're 22, dedicated your entire post-school life to Starcraft, your career is shot, and you don't know what to do with your future, it would be harder than normal to turn down this criminal opportunity presented to you by your trusted coach. Coaches are like parents to these kids (22 is still a kid in my eyes, especially when they don't have any real life experience), and if you offer a bunch of people the equivalent of a 1st place prize pool in a major tournament, one of them are going to cave. However, if Yoda was not largely persuaded by Gerrard, and decided this largely on his own, it would be fine to come down on him.

tl;dr Yoda is still pretty much a kid. Gerrard may have had great influence over his actions. Maybe not. Wait before pitchforks


don't expect this amount of wisdom from the internet. It will just make you sad.
NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
October 19 2015 08:09 GMT
#909
(Z)Enough is among the people who got arrested.
(ex KTF zerg, esports Journalist, scum of the earth, now sitting in jail)
Haku
Profile Joined August 2013
Germany550 Posts
October 19 2015 08:10 GMT
#910
Anyone can translate what MKP is posting on Twitter and Facebook? Seems to be related to this topic.
Jaedong | Life | MKP | PartinG | LosirA | ByuN | TaeJa | TY | TLO | Bomber | HerO | Rotti | Dark | Stephano | Maru | Ragnarok | MC | IdrA | Serral | Creator | Bunny | INnoVation | Liquid | Prime | JinAir
Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2630 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 08:10:59
October 19 2015 08:10 GMT
#911
On October 19 2015 17:04 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2015 17:00 Brutaxilos wrote:
Make's me feel like an idiot for taking this picture to be honest.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11885300_10205030517110430_4769519037896326533_n.jpg?oh=aa8809bf1da8efa98e600e1876c918ae&oe=56CAA2FE&__gda__=1452031208_5243728163a06da246d397d9ce2fc62d]fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net

Link doesn't work

Ah, whatever. I came to Korea a few months ago and went to watch Prime's final match in Proleague. Saw them all outside and got a pic with the entire team.

They were all pretty grim looking. Probably already knew shit was going down soon.

Fixed the link though.
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BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-19 08:13:19
October 19 2015 08:12 GMT
#912
[image loading]


One of the first pros I ever met in my life (Computex 2012, Taipei, Taiwan).
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Locke-
Profile Joined December 2011
499 Posts
October 19 2015 08:13 GMT
#913
On October 19 2015 17:02 deacon.frost wrote:
No one outside US cares about baseball


Baseball is huge in Japan, Korea and Taiwan. Also to a lesser extent in Central America.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55555 Posts
October 19 2015 08:15 GMT
#914
This explains why even Creator wouldn't stay on Prime anymore. Holy hell.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
ilovegroov
Profile Joined January 2015
357 Posts
October 19 2015 08:15 GMT
#915
So I guess all gambling is illegal in Korea?
http://www.korealaw.com/sub/information/boardView.asp?brdId=corporate&brdIdx=62

That is of course very smart politics, about as intelligent as making prostitution illegal. If gambling itself is already illegal there is literally no reason to not start fixing it for the criminals.
Circumstance
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
United States11403 Posts
October 19 2015 08:16 GMT
#916
Gerrard made some awful decisions out of desperation, and Yoda and B4's competitive integrity was so flimsy that it was capable of breaking under pressure to do the unforgivable. The only thing left of this story besides all of us condemning everyone involved is for the Korean justice system to decide what the consequences of these actions are. It really is that simple.
The world is better when every background has a chance.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 19 2015 08:16 GMT
#917
goddamnnnn
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
October 19 2015 08:16 GMT
#918
On October 19 2015 17:10 EXRNaRa wrote:
Anyone can translate what MKP is posting on Twitter and Facebook? Seems to be related to this topic.


"tsk tsk tsk."
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
October 19 2015 08:22 GMT
#919
Not B4 too! Damnit. I was a fan.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
October 19 2015 08:25 GMT
#920
Meh this sucks
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