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FalconHoof
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada183 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 06:09:37
May 12 2015 06:06 GMT
#21
Wow all the maps are so good this year it's actually really difficult to pick a favourite! Bravo map creators of TL...great job!

Edit: Why no love for Ecosphere? I love the way the expansions all line up 6 in a row
Masturbation this good deserves it's own foreplay.
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
May 12 2015 06:12 GMT
#22
On May 12 2015 12:28 Uvantak wrote:
Superouman wins, calling it.

Yeah. Can anyone try to persuade me not to vote for it?

+ Show Spoiler +

I kinda feel like mech will be a hard to engage and possibly boring/ugly to watch play out, but still fun in a high concept way that is more exciting in BW on heartbreak ridge.
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
May 12 2015 06:58 GMT
#23
On May 12 2015 12:28 Uvantak wrote:
Superouman wins, calling it.

Nah, no way. Terraform will win ez
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Fatam
Profile Joined June 2012
1986 Posts
May 12 2015 07:13 GMT
#24
BTW on top of ignoring the maps' makers, I also urge everyone to spend plenty of time analyzing the maps and not vote for a map just because it looks good.


Yeah, this + watching the VODs. My order changed quite a bit after seeing the maps in action.
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lefix
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1082 Posts
May 12 2015 07:21 GMT
#25
Terraform FTW!
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19297 Posts
May 12 2015 07:43 GMT
#26
On May 12 2015 14:47 Barrin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 14:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On May 12 2015 14:10 Barrin wrote:
On May 12 2015 13:30 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
I'll say it again; I hate the fact that we only vote for the map we think is best. This voting system is flawed...

I'm inclined to agree.

What would you suggest as an alternative?


Everyone ranking the maps from favourite to least favourite. Then using the mean rating of the maps to determine the winner. While this system also has its flaws, it's reasonably simple, and a huge step up from the current one.

How many points would each ranking get?

1st choice gets 7 points,
2nd choice gets 6 points,
etc?

Perhaps it would be better to let people choose how many points to give each map on a scale of 1-10 for example.

Better yet, IMO -- assuming we're going to let the community vote on the maps directly -- is this system:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting

Instead of unelected judges making a short list of maps for the community to vote on, I would prefer to have judges who are elected by the community make the decision themselves. They would then be obligated to report back to the community with their process/thoughts in order to ensure reelection, etc. The Republic way.

But of course this is TL's competition and they can do with it what they want. And Blizzard provided the $2000 prize pool, which they seem to have strong-armed the resulting finalists with. Can only complain so much.


I support any system where it forces the TL admins to do complex math.
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Uvantak
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Uruguay1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 07:49:00
May 12 2015 07:47 GMT
#27
On May 12 2015 16:43 BisuDagger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 14:47 Barrin wrote:
On May 12 2015 14:32 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
On May 12 2015 14:10 Barrin wrote:
On May 12 2015 13:30 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
I'll say it again; I hate the fact that we only vote for the map we think is best. This voting system is flawed...

I'm inclined to agree.

What would you suggest as an alternative?


Everyone ranking the maps from favourite to least favourite. Then using the mean rating of the maps to determine the winner. While this system also has its flaws, it's reasonably simple, and a huge step up from the current one.

How many points would each ranking get?

1st choice gets 7 points,
2nd choice gets 6 points,
etc?

Perhaps it would be better to let people choose how many points to give each map on a scale of 1-10 for example.

Better yet, IMO -- assuming we're going to let the community vote on the maps directly -- is this system:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instant-runoff_voting

Instead of unelected judges making a short list of maps for the community to vote on, I would prefer to have judges who are elected by the community make the decision themselves. They would then be obligated to report back to the community with their process/thoughts in order to ensure reelection, etc. The Republic way.

But of course this is TL's competition and they can do with it what they want. And Blizzard provided the $2000 prize pool, which they seem to have strong-armed the resulting finalists with. Can only complain so much.


I support any system where it forces the TL admins to do complex math.

Ehhhhhhh I don't think that's necessary. I think if you lock R1CH for a couple days in a cell with water and some bananas he could find a way to automatize the whole thing out of sheer boredom.

On May 12 2015 15:58 Superouman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 12:28 Uvantak wrote:
Superouman wins, calling it.

Nah, no way. Terraform will win ez

Yeah, maybe, spirals too stronk!
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-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2142 Posts
May 12 2015 07:52 GMT
#28
On May 12 2015 15:58 Superouman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 12:28 Uvantak wrote:
Superouman wins, calling it.

Nah, no way. Terraform will win ez

not if i have anything to say about it! i just voted for noah's ark, the idea of a ring of chokes around the center is very interesting.
vibeo gane,
Biedrik
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
United States94 Posts
May 12 2015 08:04 GMT
#29
A vote for Bridgehead is a vote for greatness.
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
May 12 2015 08:07 GMT
#30
Terraform has my sword
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
May 12 2015 08:12 GMT
#31
I want to vote twice

But yeah, backdoors are quite the trend for this contest it seems
I hope that it won't create an Expedition Lost 2.0 though..
LiquipediaWanderer
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
May 12 2015 08:30 GMT
#32
Terraform or D&T is the question for me.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
May 12 2015 08:48 GMT
#33
While I appreciate that people would prefer a different kind of vote, at present this is the only vote system supported on TL at the moment. Regardless, this is how it will be this season! Too far into the voting to change anything.
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Ingvar
Profile Joined April 2015
Russian Federation421 Posts
May 12 2015 08:52 GMT
#34
On May 12 2015 14:10 Barrin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 13:30 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
I'll say it again; I hate the fact that we only vote for the map we think is best. This voting system is flawed...

I'm inclined to agree.

What would you suggest as an alternative?


I believe even a simple option like having three polls giving 3-2-1 points would change the quality of voting drastically. We don't choose the one map that goes to the ladder so there is no need to limit choices and it's laconic enough to make every choice meaningful and thought-out (as opposed to rating every map on the scale of 1 to 10 for example). That way overall better maps would be rated higher because different people love different gimmicks but the idea of a good map is more or less the same.

This of course can have side effects, i.e. Bridgehead winning just because "BW looks" make everyone put it in top 3 (mind you, I think it deserves to be in top 3 whatever the tileset), but no system is perfect.

I actually do it in my head anyway before voting because it makes me assign values to different things I like in maps and compare them instead of just choosing one based on general impression.

PS Is there any chance Ganymede will make it to the ladder?
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Kompicek
Profile Joined May 2008
Czech Republic245 Posts
May 12 2015 09:02 GMT
#35
bridgehead is so coool! i one of the best maps i have seen in sc2. Finally a different layout of bases than the default one we see on all sc2 maps!
-NegativeZero-
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2142 Posts
May 12 2015 09:18 GMT
#36
On May 12 2015 17:48 Plexa wrote:
While I appreciate that people would prefer a different kind of vote, at present this is the only vote system supported on TL at the moment. Regardless, this is how it will be this season! Too far into the voting to change anything.

for future contests you could set up a google doc with 7 separate mandatory poll options, each on a scale of 1-10 (to ensure that everyone votes evenly across all maps, without skipping any).
vibeo gane,
helius788
Profile Joined July 2012
New Zealand74 Posts
May 12 2015 11:35 GMT
#37
On May 12 2015 12:36 covetousrat wrote:
Totally not voting for those backdoor rock maps. Theyre so terrible. Terraform is really interesting.


I agree 100%. Why backdoors to your main? Expedition Lost has just been proving everyone that this is broken...
They still look pretty and good job to everyone!
ejozl
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark3449 Posts
May 12 2015 11:57 GMT
#38
I have a real hard time deciding what to vote for here, they all look pretty cool and different.

It looks like Noah's Ark have super annoying lighting, making it harder to see stuff, can anyone confirm?
SC2 Archon needs "Terrible, terrible damage" as one of it's quotes.
NasusAndDraven
Profile Joined April 2015
359 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 12:17:10
May 12 2015 12:16 GMT
#39
On May 12 2015 16:52 -NegativeZero- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 15:58 Superouman wrote:
On May 12 2015 12:28 Uvantak wrote:
Superouman wins, calling it.

Nah, no way. Terraform will win ez

not if i have anything to say about it! i just voted for noah's ark, the idea of a ring of chokes around the center is very interesting.

Come on man, this is not how the real world works. You are supposed to vote urself no matter what. These are the things you regret later on.


Anyway backdoorless map ftw.
Magnifico
Profile Joined March 2013
1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-12 12:36:55
May 12 2015 12:33 GMT
#40
My vote goes to Terraform, because it reminds me of Planet S.

The other maps... Rocks, rocks everyhwere.
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