• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:07
CEST 17:07
KST 00:07
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-611SC4ALL II announced - $10,000 prize pool, Dec 5-64
StarCraft 2
General
GSTL Returns in 2026! SC4ALL: II Talent Announcement! https://www.facebook.com/Eco.Fuel.Reviews/ Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Protoss AoE skill expression
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
How to Watch RedNote Short Dramas in the United St u4gm Diablo 4: QoL Secrets for Faster Gameplay u4gm POE2 Frostbolt Build: A Powerful Boss Killer U4GM CFB 27 Guide: Why UTSA’s Offense Is So Danger
Brood War
General
StarCraft 64 is coming to Philly at SC4ALL II ASL22 General Discussion BW General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
SC4ALL II: Brood War - $2500 - Dec 5-6 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3 2v2v2v2 Tournament
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation General RTS Discussion Thread Diablo 2 thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread Iain M Banks Says He Has Cancer And Months To Live Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Chinese Gen Z: Between Dream…
TrAiDoS
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Hello guys!
LIN1s
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3614 users

DeMusliM leaves Evil Geniuses - Page 4

Forum Index > SC2 General
208 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 9 10 11 Next All
Missing-No
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada50 Posts
February 02 2015 22:15 GMT
#61
about time lol
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-02 22:18:23
February 02 2015 22:17 GMT
#62
On February 03 2015 06:59 rafaliusz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2015 06:48 SixStrings wrote:
On February 03 2015 06:44 Broodwurst wrote:
On February 03 2015 06:40 Noocta wrote:
EG SC2 Roster is basically Jaedong, Huk ( who manage to keep good enough results to stay here), and 3 students that cost almost nothing to maintain ( Thorzain, Suppy Xeno )
And Incontrol is more of a manager for the EG brand now

Kinda sad.


Well Jaedong is probably worth like 3 Polts, just because of his name.


Maybe to the 200 people who were around when BW was a thing.

Jaedong is nothing next to Polt in SC2 terms.

Oh, you're so controversial!


I'm not even trying to be controversial...

Six titles compared to two. I rest my case. You people just can't stand that anyone who has a WC3 background is streets ahead of anyone who has a BW background.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
February 02 2015 22:17 GMT
#63
On February 03 2015 06:57 Broodwurst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2015 06:48 SixStrings wrote:
On February 03 2015 06:44 Broodwurst wrote:
On February 03 2015 06:40 Noocta wrote:
EG SC2 Roster is basically Jaedong, Huk ( who manage to keep good enough results to stay here), and 3 students that cost almost nothing to maintain ( Thorzain, Suppy Xeno )
And Incontrol is more of a manager for the EG brand now

Kinda sad.


Well Jaedong is probably worth like 3 Polts, just because of his name.


Maybe to the 200 people who were around when BW was a thing.

Jaedong is nothing next to Polt in SC2 terms.


Don't confuse achievements (or skill) with what a name is worth.
If you put Polts face on mouse A and jaedongs face on mouse B, which one is gonna sell more?
If you think it's mouse A you need to sit down, take a deep breath and come to terms with reality.


Polt is Captain America are you mad?
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
February 02 2015 22:18 GMT
#64
On February 03 2015 07:11 Broodwurst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2015 07:02 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On February 03 2015 07:01 Broodwurst wrote:
On February 03 2015 06:53 Rasputincz wrote:
What is the main reason that SC2 scene is so dead? I am not trying to troll or anything. I mean that question seriously.


It's boring as fuck to watch. The game needs more maps like Zel'Naga Caverns or whatever it was called, short distance and rush friendly. But since all the players bitch about every map that isn't macro friendly to the fullest viewers get bored because nothing is really happening for 10-15 minutes.


Because 1 base vs 1 base every game was SO fun to watch...


I'm not talking about every game, but ask yourself this question:
Who do you think finds 10 minutes of "perfect macro" entertaining?
a) people who play the game at a high level
a2) people who WANT to play at a high level
b) the casual viewers

Or use this analogy:
How many people get excited watching the world record for continously kicking a ball without it touching the ground, in full length?
a) people who do the same
a2) people who WANT to do the same
b) people who like football/soccer

Watching people compete only on playing fields they feel comfortable on is BORING AS FUCK.


The first 10 minutes of a game are hardly macro only every single game. Sure it happens, but there's often a lot going on before it. You need to pay more attention if that's all you see. Maybe I'm biased as a hardcore viewer, but I don't see it at all that way. Could we use some more mid game action? Sure, and I think LotV is moving towards that a bit hopefully. The games we have currently are far more interesting than they were in 2010 and 2011.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
February 02 2015 22:25 GMT
#65
Demuslim is so awesome. Well, we survived MVP.MK, we'll survive mouz.Demuslim >.>
Spiller
Profile Joined September 2014
United States106 Posts
February 02 2015 22:27 GMT
#66
On February 03 2015 06:53 Rasputincz wrote:
What is the main reason that SC2 scene is so dead? I am not trying to troll or anything. I mean that question seriously.


Starcraft isn't anywhere close to dead. To all the unreasonable children on the internet if you are not the number 1 E-sport in the business then the game is dying/dead. Even if SC2 spends the rest of its life span as a niche E-sport compared to Mobas, CS-GO and fighting games, who cares. As long as there are enough sponsors and people watching that tournaments continue to run the game will not die.

People want to compare E-sports to real sports well look around the world and there are smaller sports that have leagues and continue to be successful enough to operate and provide enjoyment for the fans that do care about that niche sport. I mean there is a National Lacrosse League in the United States which is a sport at least 90 percent of the country couldn't give a damn about ( and that is probably being generous). They don't get much TV or press compared to the other sports but guess what, they continue to provide entertainment for the fans who do, there is nothing wrong with settling for a smaller role in the community.

That is not to say that SC2 doesn't have its problems, but I'm tired of people being over dramatic all the time about how the game is dead just because other games draw more people. You don't have to be on top to exist as a competitive game.
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-02 23:17:18
February 02 2015 22:30 GMT
#67
Die Frage ist doch, welches Team sollte so einen Spieler nur wegen seines Namens kaufen?

Er scheint ja nicht mehr wirklich aktiv zu sein, war schon immer recht faul und die Teams haben sicher nicht einfach die Kohle über, einen inaktiven Spieler zu bezahlen.

Sorry, I was alt-tabbing between two forums.

User was warned for this post
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
February 02 2015 22:32 GMT
#68
good luck Demu
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
February 02 2015 22:33 GMT
#69
On February 03 2015 07:18 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2015 07:11 Broodwurst wrote:
On February 03 2015 07:02 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On February 03 2015 07:01 Broodwurst wrote:
On February 03 2015 06:53 Rasputincz wrote:
What is the main reason that SC2 scene is so dead? I am not trying to troll or anything. I mean that question seriously.


It's boring as fuck to watch. The game needs more maps like Zel'Naga Caverns or whatever it was called, short distance and rush friendly. But since all the players bitch about every map that isn't macro friendly to the fullest viewers get bored because nothing is really happening for 10-15 minutes.


Because 1 base vs 1 base every game was SO fun to watch...


I'm not talking about every game, but ask yourself this question:
Who do you think finds 10 minutes of "perfect macro" entertaining?
a) people who play the game at a high level
a2) people who WANT to play at a high level
b) the casual viewers

Or use this analogy:
How many people get excited watching the world record for continously kicking a ball without it touching the ground, in full length?
a) people who do the same
a2) people who WANT to do the same
b) people who like football/soccer

Watching people compete only on playing fields they feel comfortable on is BORING AS FUCK.


The first 10 minutes of a game are hardly macro only every single game. Sure it happens, but there's often a lot going on before it. You need to pay more attention if that's all you see. Maybe I'm biased as a hardcore viewer, but I don't see it at all that way. Could we use some more mid game action? Sure, and I think LotV is moving towards that a bit hopefully. The games we have currently are far more interesting than they were in 2010 and 2011.


Again, I never said "every single game."
In terms of excitement I'll just mention that I watched the whole Boxer vs. Rain match and loved it. I actually watched a handfull of aweseome matches on Metalopolis even though everyone was bitching about that map. I just wish people would pull that stick out their arses and come up with shit instead of bitching.
Fanboys = (ウ╹◡╹)ウ /// I like smiley faces
SuperHofmann
Profile Joined September 2013
Italy1741 Posts
February 02 2015 22:34 GMT
#70
Good luck to him, but the results are not the best...
Vasacast always in my <3
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
February 02 2015 22:41 GMT
#71
I don't really see a big team picking him up. Maybe dignitas for Britishness or a smaller one. Is he known to play Heroes of the Storm? I would say he is picking up more casting gigs but I think he has picked already every one he could in the last year. Skillwise he is on the fringe between WCS and non-WCS and I don't see that changing very much which shouldn't be enough to make a living out of it.
Specialist
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States803 Posts
February 02 2015 22:42 GMT
#72
Did he leave voluntarily? otherwise, you should put "released from" or other equiv.
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
February 02 2015 22:43 GMT
#73
On February 03 2015 07:01 Broodwurst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2015 06:53 Rasputincz wrote:
What is the main reason that SC2 scene is so dead? I am not trying to troll or anything. I mean that question seriously.


It's boring as fuck to watch. The game needs more maps like Zel'Naga Caverns or whatever it was called, short distance and rush friendly. But since all the players bitch about every map that isn't macro friendly to the fullest viewers get bored because nothing is really happening for 10-15 minutes.


Try not watching PvZ and avilo games! All terran matchups are pretty fun even pre 10 minutes these days, PvP is also up there sometimes when the greats are playing their tight aggressive macro games.
maru G5L pls
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19373 Posts
February 02 2015 22:47 GMT
#74
Sad to see the original EG slowly changing personnel. Best of luck DeMusliM.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46269 Posts
February 02 2015 22:48 GMT
#75
This makes me so sad!

Best of luck in the future, Ben!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
SCguineapig
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Netherlands289 Posts
February 02 2015 22:50 GMT
#76
http://nooooooooooooooo.com/


all that needs to be said.
broodwar wasn't perfect
Bastinian
Profile Joined October 2014
Serbia177 Posts
February 02 2015 22:54 GMT
#77
Sad news! I hope EG will grow strong again as they used to be!
Tryhard, road to pro-gamer! :) | twitter.com/bastiniansc2 | twitch.tv/bastinian |
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
February 02 2015 23:10 GMT
#78
Strange that there's no announcement from EG about this. Wonder if it was really mutual if there's not even a goodbye post.
AdministratorTwitter: @R1CH_TL
TL+ Member
NKexquisite
Profile Joined January 2009
United States911 Posts
February 02 2015 23:11 GMT
#79
As many have already said, its not surprising, but I find it to be un-surprising because for a long time now EG has been pulling away from SC2 and focusing on other games. I'm surprised Demuslim stayed as long as he did on a team where their game is on the backburner with only two other full-time players.
Whattttt Upppppppp Im Nesteaaaaaa!!
Broodwurst
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1586 Posts
February 02 2015 23:11 GMT
#80
On February 03 2015 07:43 neptunusfisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2015 07:01 Broodwurst wrote:
On February 03 2015 06:53 Rasputincz wrote:
What is the main reason that SC2 scene is so dead? I am not trying to troll or anything. I mean that question seriously.


It's boring as fuck to watch. The game needs more maps like Zel'Naga Caverns or whatever it was called, short distance and rush friendly. But since all the players bitch about every map that isn't macro friendly to the fullest viewers get bored because nothing is really happening for 10-15 minutes.


Try not watching PvZ and avilo games! All terran matchups are pretty fun even pre 10 minutes these days, PvP is also up there sometimes when the greats are playing their tight aggressive macro games.


Try not watching PvZ isn't great advice.
I don't ever watch Avilo because I think he's a massive cunt. Yeah I get that he probably plays a persona but he's so believable in that role that I hate him, too.

Anyway, I don't want to derail this thread any further. Imo Sc2 got really boring and I explained some reasons why I think that way. GL HF
Fanboys = (ウ╹◡╹)ウ /// I like smiley faces
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 9 10 11 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
13:00
King of the Hill #259
WardiTV434
Liquipedia
PiG Sty Festival
12:00
PiGfest 8.0 Group A
Serral vs Lambo
SHIN vs Rogue
IntoTheiNu 1400
PiGStarcraft982
ComeBackTV 353
IndyStarCraft 199
Rex117
BRAT_OK 81
3DClanTV 39
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft982
IndyStarCraft 199
Rex 117
BRAT_OK 81
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 40773
Shuttle 2907
Bisu 1815
EffOrt 925
Light 609
Pusan 343
Soulkey 323
actioN 302
Larva 250
Rush 245
[ Show more ]
firebathero 237
Stork 227
Snow 209
ZerO 172
Hyuk 125
hero 92
Sea.KH 61
ToSsGirL 33
Sexy 30
Hm[arnc] 29
Sacsri 27
sSak 25
Terrorterran 22
Sharp 20
HiyA 15
yabsab 15
sorry 14
scan(afreeca) 11
Dota 2
The International46089
Dendi1897
qojqva1841
BananaSlamJamma288
KheZu117
Counter-Strike
fl0m6047
x6flipin819
hiko593
Heroes of the Storm
XaKoH 123
Khaldor114
Other Games
singsing3517
FrodaN396
Lowko388
crisheroes225
ToD212
Hui .169
Liquid`VortiX155
ArmadaUGS81
KnowMe70
Livibee66
QueenE57
ZerO(Twitch)13
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 4
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 2125
• lizZardDota2119
League of Legends
• Nemesis2007
• Jankos1829
Other Games
• WagamamaTV195
Upcoming Events
OSC
4h 53m
Replay Cast
8h 53m
Escore
18h 53m
PiG Sty Festival
20h 53m
ByuN vs HeRoMaRinE
ShoWTimE vs Zoun
CranKy Ducklings
1d 18h
PiG Sty Festival
1d 20h
herO vs Krystianer
Solar vs Cure
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Maru vs Shameless
Reynor vs TriGGeR
OSC
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Rush vs Hm
Bisu vs Shuttle
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
The Patches Monday
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Sharp vs Shinee
Action vs Shine
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
BeSt vs Paralyze
Jaedong vs Speed
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-12
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
Acropolis #5
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W7
CSLAN 4
ASL Season 22
Escore Tournament S3: W8
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
META DYMY #4
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ.
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.