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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 29 2014 01:22 GMT
#41
On July 29 2014 04:54 Rikudou wrote:
i thought most of the french fanbase prefers dailymotion.. so why streaming on twitch?
they want to push the french fanbase, but with twitch..


French viewers don't care for Twitch / Daily

Only the streamer usually care, because Dailymotion is willing to help a lot, and they also pay way better.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
EJK
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States1302 Posts
July 29 2014 02:24 GMT
#42
On July 29 2014 10:22 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 04:54 Rikudou wrote:
i thought most of the french fanbase prefers dailymotion.. so why streaming on twitch?
they want to push the french fanbase, but with twitch..


French viewers don't care for Twitch / Daily

Only the streamer usually care, because Dailymotion is willing to help a lot, and they also pay way better.

Oh rlly? Compared to twitch
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
July 29 2014 02:27 GMT
#43
On July 29 2014 07:57 Faust852 wrote:
Considering France is the 2nd most represented nationality on TL, that's probably the same, if not the biggest SC2 community of SC2.


Really? Source please. No way France has more TL users than the US or Germany, so it's the 3rd at best.
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Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
July 29 2014 02:39 GMT
#44
On July 29 2014 11:27 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 07:57 Faust852 wrote:
Considering France is the 2nd most represented nationality on TL, that's probably the same, if not the biggest SC2 community of SC2.


Really? Source please. No way France has more TL users than the US or Germany, so it's the 3rd at best.


USA 22.9%
France 10,3%
Sweden 5,8%
Canada 5,5%
Germany 5,4%

So yes, France > Germany by a huge margin.

Source
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-29 02:43:25
July 29 2014 02:41 GMT
#45
What's the ESL drama everyone's talking about? Didn't follow that...

Edit: Oh right, something about ESL imposing Twitch and French broadcast wanting to use Dailymotion I guess.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
July 29 2014 02:44 GMT
#46
On July 29 2014 11:41 ZenithM wrote:
What's the ESL drama everyone's talking about? Didn't follow that...

Edit: Oh right, something about ESL imposing Twitch and French broadcast wanting to use Dailymotion I guess.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/443519-ogaming-millenium-aaa-and-esl-dispute-french-stream-for-wcs-europe
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
July 29 2014 02:52 GMT
#47
On July 29 2014 11:44 Faust852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 11:41 ZenithM wrote:
What's the ESL drama everyone's talking about? Didn't follow that...

Edit: Oh right, something about ESL imposing Twitch and French broadcast wanting to use Dailymotion I guess.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/443519-ogaming-millenium-aaa-and-esl-dispute-french-stream-for-wcs-europe

Thank you, I remember now ^^.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
July 29 2014 02:59 GMT
#48
On July 29 2014 11:39 Faust852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 11:27 endy wrote:
On July 29 2014 07:57 Faust852 wrote:
Considering France is the 2nd most represented nationality on TL, that's probably the same, if not the biggest SC2 community of SC2.


Really? Source please. No way France has more TL users than the US or Germany, so it's the 3rd at best.


USA 22.9%
France 10,3%
Sweden 5,8%
Canada 5,5%
Germany 5,4%

So yes, France > Germany by a huge margin.

Source


Hmmm I always though Alexa was collecting data through their toolbar which is not accurate at all. I'll ask the "ask TL staff anything thread". Thanks for the reply though.
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Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
July 29 2014 03:12 GMT
#49
Starcraft may no long be cresting but it really does have a sort of quite strength, always in the top 3 - 6 of all twitch channels. Not as much player support, or casting for that matter, but the tournaments are getting solid viewership now that (I believe) we aren't over saturated with weekly tournaments.

Also, I'm very happy with the EU scene continuing to expand!
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
July 29 2014 03:17 GMT
#50
On July 29 2014 02:19 Yhamm wrote:
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On July 29 2014 02:15 boxerfred wrote:
On July 29 2014 01:09 Yhamm wrote:
surprised they are casting this on Twitch when we know what they did with ESL

are you referring to that esl vs. ogaming drama, or any actually gsl-related stuff?

referring to the fact they whined that ESL didn't let them cast WCS Europe on Dailymotion, complaining that casting on Twitch meant a loss of money
so yeah, I'm surprised to see them casting GSL Code A on twitch, considering that all matches are already played

That was not ogaming, I believe that was actually MilleniumTV.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
July 29 2014 03:22 GMT
#51
On July 29 2014 12:17 BreAKerTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 02:19 Yhamm wrote:
On July 29 2014 02:15 boxerfred wrote:
On July 29 2014 01:09 Yhamm wrote:
surprised they are casting this on Twitch when we know what they did with ESL

are you referring to that esl vs. ogaming drama, or any actually gsl-related stuff?

referring to the fact they whined that ESL didn't let them cast WCS Europe on Dailymotion, complaining that casting on Twitch meant a loss of money
so yeah, I'm surprised to see them casting GSL Code A on twitch, considering that all matches are already played

That was not ogaming, I believe that was actually MilleniumTV.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/443519-ogaming-millenium-aaa-and-esl-dispute-french-stream-for-wcs-europe

Ogaming, Millenium and aAa.
Pharaphobia
Profile Joined October 2013
Czech Republic58 Posts
July 29 2014 05:07 GMT
#52
I would ask everyone who are complaining about it if their lives are perfect without single mistake or thing they are not proud of... I mean okay they had some problems with ESL so? Its a past and they are trying to bring fresh content for french ppl. You guys already forget how amazing was crowd at Nation Wars? (Hell I would love to see that in my country on some SC tourney)... It's great idea and I support that, also the idea that it would be in more languages in good and bad

1.) it would decrease number of viewers on main gsl stream (dead game Kappa spam inc...)
2.) less income from ads
3.) less chance to get subs

But, I'm not an expert so we will see how it willl go.
http://twitch.tv/Pharaphobia
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-29 05:48:40
July 29 2014 05:47 GMT
#53
^
1)people that watched the english stream won't switch to the french one. Because they know how poor the knowledge of french casters is and how good is Artosis one. You watch GSL for the highest level of play, so you need the highest level of commentary to understand it.
French cast will just bring casual and non english speaker to watch the show.
2)a little income is still more than no income at all.
3)see 1).
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
July 29 2014 05:57 GMT
#54
I love O'Gaming as an organisation, but i have to say i really dont like their cast. I'm happy it will get more people getting into GSL, gotta love the constant involvment from O'Gaming in SC2.
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Opera
Profile Joined March 2011
France469 Posts
July 29 2014 06:07 GMT
#55
It's probably a good news from OGTV, but the fact that they won't cast the games live is a huge drawback imo. Also, even if P&T cast all games without their usual parasites, the casting will still be worse than Tastosis.

I don't think it will bring so many viewers the experience lasts for more than one season.
It ain't over till it's over
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 29 2014 06:34 GMT
#56
I think the timezone will hurt them. A lot.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
July 29 2014 06:35 GMT
#57
On July 29 2014 15:34 boxerfred wrote:
I think the timezone will hurt them. A lot.

it's rebroacasted.
LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
July 29 2014 07:21 GMT
#58
I think the re-broadcast is a good idea. Obviously the hardcore fans will watch it live, but I think most of the hardcore audience is used to watching it in english by now, and probably won't switch back to French. On the other hand, a re-broadcast allows the O'Gaming crew to get those who can't watch due to work/school, but are just too lazy to check up the VODs. I'm definitely one of those: I follow results live at work, but I don't bother firing up the VODs when I get home. But if I were to get home as the GSL is rebroadcast, I'd probably tune in for the groups with players I really want to see.

Plus, they still get all their usual audience (which I think is more casual players oriented). I'm quite curious to see how this will turn out !
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
July 29 2014 08:06 GMT
#59
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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3462 Posts
July 29 2014 08:15 GMT
#60
On July 29 2014 06:52 Cazimirbzh wrote:
Show nested quote +
But overall it s not very professional in my opinion, esp. as opposed to Tastosis for instance


Tastosis have been casting for 4 years in korea...they're just caster they dont run their own prod business with events
also (i hope) maybe gomtv will ask for a cast with some standards.

Show nested quote +
I'm surprised to see them casting GSL Code A on twitch,

tonight, more then one folks was ban on their chat for saying " but Coda A is over?" ^^
but u think casting old matchs on the same schedule as will be next Code S/A in order to start gathering an audience
is a bad move from them?

WCS is a different world than GSL, gomtv/ Gomxp demise is the first clue



You re missing my point. I have the utmost respect for P&T and their production (al of O'Gaming actually). What I meant was that as casters (and just casters) Tastosis sound more professional. Because in the end, I only care about the match and the commentary, not whatever comes in between.
I like good inputs, and a decent analysis.

For offline events, O'Gaming does an amazing job, I am not arguing that. In the end though, I don't think the target audience is the same.

As for twitch over DM, it's annoying for me as Twitch lags as hell, but GSL s already on twitch so I won't see any difference.. (yay for SPL on youtube!)
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