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O'Gaming to cast GSL in French.

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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 05:21:14
July 28 2014 15:36 GMT
#1
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O'Gaming just released an article about the French company to cast the best tournament in the world.

Here's the link to watch the French stream : Here !

The whole statement is here : http://www.ogaming.tv/news/la-gsl-sur-ogaming-tv
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LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-28 16:01:29
July 28 2014 15:58 GMT
#2
Any info on who the casters will be (the usual Ogaming team ?), the broadcast schedule (live ?), when does it start ?
I'm sorry I'm at work, the ogaming site is blocked by the firewall (thank God I can access TL :D) !

Edit: I realise my post was missing something: FUCK YEAH GSL IN FRENCH WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!! :D
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12267 Posts
July 28 2014 16:08 GMT
#3
Really wish they could have Pomf&Thud cast this. And I mean Pomf&Thud, not Pomf&Anoss or Thud&Moman, no offense (or offense, if you prefer^^)
No will to live, no wish to die
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
July 28 2014 16:09 GMT
#4
surprised they are casting this on Twitch when we know what they did with ESL
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
McRatyn
Profile Joined January 2013
Poland901 Posts
July 28 2014 16:11 GMT
#5
If you're a French fan who's hard to please, are you extatic or do you go "Should have ben someone else"? I'm intrested what the French netizen reaction to that particular team might be.
Congrats to all dames and monsieurs :D
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12267 Posts
July 28 2014 16:14 GMT
#6
I may be wrong about that, but I think most of the french people who post on TL will choose english cast over french cast if they have a choice. I could certainly go back and listen to a french cast afterwards to get a second view (especially from the o'gaming casters who deliver some good fun casts a lot of the time), but for the live I've almost always picked english cast.
No will to live, no wish to die
Ljas
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland725 Posts
July 28 2014 16:21 GMT
#7
On July 29 2014 01:14 Nebuchad wrote:
I may be wrong about that, but I think most of the french people who post on TL will choose english cast over french cast if they have a choice. I could certainly go back and listen to a french cast afterwards to get a second view (especially from the o'gaming casters who deliver some good fun casts a lot of the time), but for the live I've almost always picked english cast.

The French Starcraft scene extends well beyond TL, though.
sGLA
Profile Joined March 2013
35 Posts
July 28 2014 16:23 GMT
#8
Sounds like a pretty good idea. Why not generate some extra viewers by offering casts in different languages? Gogo german cast
GreenFate
Profile Joined March 2011
France289 Posts
July 28 2014 16:32 GMT
#9
On July 29 2014 01:23 sGLA wrote:
Sounds like a pretty good idea. Why not generate some extra viewers by offering casts in different languages? Gogo german cast

And the fact it's broadcasted with delay in the late afternoon/evening might not interest GSL followers, but it could attract more casual viewers
xYc
Profile Joined May 2013
Austria75 Posts
July 28 2014 16:33 GMT
#10
so, will there be free 720p?
ppp
Profile Joined March 2013
174 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-28 16:37:41
July 28 2014 16:37 GMT
#11
It's live right now.
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-29 03:16:25
July 28 2014 16:41 GMT
#12
If I learn to speak Marshallese, can I cast the GSL in Marshallese?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshallese_language

Don't mean to be a troll, it was just an honest joke.

EDIT: On a more serious note, it would be nice to see a Polish, Russian, and a German stream for the GSL. Would be ultra-progressive and definitely a nice improvement for the monolinguals of all major... "SC2 language regions" if you will.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
-RamPaGe-
Profile Joined March 2011
France17 Posts
July 28 2014 17:03 GMT
#13
Oh yes! Great news. Was really getting tired of having to listen to Tastosis every time... Artosis seems more arrogant than he's ever been (acts like a know-it-all-seen-everything), and Tasteless, well he's just tasteless ;p
followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1451 Posts
July 28 2014 17:10 GMT
#14
On July 29 2014 01:41 BreAKerTV wrote:
If I learn to speak Marshallese, can I cast the GSL in Marshallese?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshallese_language

Don't mean to be a troll, it was just a bad joke.

boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-28 17:16:02
July 28 2014 17:15 GMT
#15
On July 29 2014 01:09 Yhamm wrote:
surprised they are casting this on Twitch when we know what they did with ESL

are you referring to that esl vs. ogaming drama, or any actually gsl-related stuff?
Yhamm
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
France7248 Posts
July 28 2014 17:19 GMT
#16
On July 29 2014 02:15 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 01:09 Yhamm wrote:
surprised they are casting this on Twitch when we know what they did with ESL

are you referring to that esl vs. ogaming drama, or any actually gsl-related stuff?

referring to the fact they whined that ESL didn't let them cast WCS Europe on Dailymotion, complaining that casting on Twitch meant a loss of money
so yeah, I'm surprised to see them casting GSL Code A on twitch, considering that all matches are already played
LiquipediaWe will have only each other at the last
v_lm
Profile Joined September 2012
France202 Posts
July 28 2014 17:32 GMT
#17
On July 29 2014 01:11 McRatyn wrote:
If you're a French fan who's hard to please, are you extatic or do you go "Should have ben someone else"? I'm intrested what the French netizen reaction to that particular team might be.
Congrats to all dames and monsieurs :D

No one else has enough influence to pull that off anyway.
I'm really happy that it could happen, I like the idea.

I'm not extatic though, french casting scene has the same issue than international scene : bad analysts or worse, bad analysts who thinks they are good. The few good analysts are not charismatic at all (unlike the american QXC). The best french caster imo is Funkadelic (the ESL obsever) and he's part of OGTV so that's good but he's not always there.

Pomf is kinda like DJWheat, funnier but often muddled.
Thud is poor frenchman's Day9 basically.
Anoss could be compared to... idk someone who has a whole lot of haters.
A friend is someone you know well and still love.
hfsrj
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany166 Posts
July 28 2014 17:35 GMT
#18
Great news ! Woot !
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
July 28 2014 17:56 GMT
#19
Rofl, after the OG/ESL drama, I can only laugh to this.
French scene is really becoming one hell of a joke
cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
July 28 2014 18:28 GMT
#20
On July 29 2014 02:56 Sakray wrote:
Rofl, after the OG/ESL drama, I can only laugh to this.
French scene is really becoming one hell of a joke


exactly my thoughts...no support from my side for this
Penero
Profile Joined July 2014
France3 Posts
July 28 2014 19:46 GMT
#21
During the whole WCS EU "drama" Millenium and O'Gaming did their best to try to to find a solution but ESL was clearly not interested into giving them the rights.
The last proposition Millenium did to ESL was a player they created that would broadcast the games on Twitch but would switch into a Dailymotion player during advertising : it would fulfill the requirements asked by ESL to use Twitch and the necessity for french webtvs to use Dailymotion since Twitch doesn't generate as much revenues in France as in the rest of EU or US.

O'gaming is using this player here (or a player working the same way).
Rikudou
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany151 Posts
July 28 2014 19:54 GMT
#22
i thought most of the french fanbase prefers dailymotion.. so why streaming on twitch?
they want to push the french fanbase, but with twitch..
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Penero
Profile Joined July 2014
France3 Posts
July 28 2014 20:07 GMT
#23
On July 29 2014 04:54 Rikudou wrote:
i thought most of the french fanbase prefers dailymotion.. so why streaming on twitch?
they want to push the french fanbase, but with twitch..


I don't think they have the choice here : I believe GSL too has a deal with Twitch so they have to stream the games on it.
GreenFate
Profile Joined March 2011
France289 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-28 20:26:27
July 28 2014 20:25 GMT
#24
On July 29 2014 02:56 Sakray wrote:
Rofl, after the OG/ESL drama, I can only laugh to this.
French scene is really becoming one hell of a joke

wut
On July 29 2014 03:28 cutler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 02:56 Sakray wrote:
Rofl, after the OG/ESL drama, I can only laugh to this.
French scene is really becoming one hell of a joke


exactly my thoughts...no support from my side for this

It's okay they don't need your support
Manouch
Profile Joined July 2014
France2 Posts
July 28 2014 20:35 GMT
#25
On July 29 2014 03:28 cutler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 02:56 Sakray wrote:
Rofl, after the OG/ESL drama, I can only laugh to this.
French scene is really becoming one hell of a joke


exactly my thoughts...no support from my side for this


Well, in France, Twitch's revenue are not high enough to support the structure needed for a webTV. Only Dailymotion is providing enough money...No wonders if every french structure is streaming on dailymotion or exporting in any other countries (When Stephano was Millenium, he tried to stream while being out of France)

O'Gaming is offering us amazing content with home-made tournament such as Iron Squid and Nation Wars.
In my opinion it is great that they try to expand their company and bring content of growing quality

Moreover, Pomf&Thud started from the bottom and became famous due to their youtube channel. So we can assume that their casting is not bad

We should cheer for them, they are bringing life to e-sports
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 28 2014 20:42 GMT
#26
On July 29 2014 05:25 GreenFate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 02:56 Sakray wrote:
Rofl, after the OG/ESL drama, I can only laugh to this.
French scene is really becoming one hell of a joke

wut
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 03:28 cutler wrote:
On July 29 2014 02:56 Sakray wrote:
Rofl, after the OG/ESL drama, I can only laugh to this.
French scene is really becoming one hell of a joke


exactly my thoughts...no support from my side for this

It's okay they don't need your support


He/She's probably referring to how O'Gaming threw a huge tantrum because they were not allowed to stream WCS on Dailymotion and now they accept streaming GSL on Twitch without a comment.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
July 28 2014 20:42 GMT
#27
France should not be laughed at for trying to bring GSL to Europe. This is a fine effort from them and I hope it works out.
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WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3392 Posts
July 28 2014 20:54 GMT
#28
It s good for the casual audience I guess.

P&T are popular and fun to a point. Funka s great too!
I don't like Anoss and the others, Moman is fun.

But overall it s not very professional in my opinion, esp. as opposed to Tastosis for instance. The best French caster imho is ToD, and he casts in English...

We'll see how it goes, but more languages can only be a good thing
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
July 28 2014 21:05 GMT
#29
On July 29 2014 02:19 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 02:15 boxerfred wrote:
On July 29 2014 01:09 Yhamm wrote:
surprised they are casting this on Twitch when we know what they did with ESL

are you referring to that esl vs. ogaming drama, or any actually gsl-related stuff?

referring to the fact they whined that ESL didn't let them cast WCS Europe on Dailymotion, complaining that casting on Twitch meant a loss of money
so yeah, I'm surprised to see them casting GSL Code A on twitch, considering that all matches are already played


as far as i know its not "money" but the rules, blizzard say "it must be twitcH" so rly nothing to do there otherwise
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24211 Posts
July 28 2014 21:43 GMT
#30
I would have liked better casters to take care of it, but a french stream of the best tournament of the planet can't be bad. Good luck !
Cazimirbzh
Profile Joined February 2014
334 Posts
July 28 2014 21:52 GMT
#31
But overall it s not very professional in my opinion, esp. as opposed to Tastosis for instance


Tastosis have been casting for 4 years in korea...they're just caster they dont run their own prod business with events
also (i hope) maybe gomtv will ask for a cast with some standards.

I'm surprised to see them casting GSL Code A on twitch,

tonight, more then one folks was ban on their chat for saying " but Coda A is over?" ^^
but u think casting old matchs on the same schedule as will be next Code S/A in order to start gathering an audience
is a bad move from them?

WCS is a different world than GSL, gomtv/ Gomxp demise is the first clue
eightym
Profile Joined May 2011
United States76 Posts
July 28 2014 22:47 GMT
#32
Fuck yeah. I love French and I love Starcraft. Allons-y !
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
July 28 2014 22:51 GMT
#33
Now TakeTV go and do it in German! Go!
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
July 28 2014 22:57 GMT
#34
Considering France is the 2nd most represented nationality on TL, that's probably the same, if not the biggest SC2 community of SC2.
That's good I guess, but the fact that they stream it on Twitch is a huge joke.
zalem95
Profile Joined January 2011
Peru184 Posts
July 28 2014 23:58 GMT
#35
very good news
nothing special
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
July 29 2014 00:18 GMT
#36
Listened to the french cast this past weekend and I was very impressed. Enjoyable casting group for sure, grats to them.
renkin
Profile Joined July 2010
France249 Posts
July 29 2014 00:58 GMT
#37
To stream on twitch instead of DailyMotion, which would give them more revenue, is risky for them.
That explains why they're not livestreaming ( as the matches would start at 3 AM ) but only restreaming at a more managable hour.

BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
July 29 2014 01:09 GMT
#38
On July 29 2014 09:58 renkin wrote:
To stream on twitch instead of DailyMotion, which would give them more revenue, is risky for them.
That explains why they're not livestreaming ( as the matches would start at 3 AM ) but only restreaming at a more managable hour.


You guys are aware that NeoTV is in Charge of the Chinese Language broadcast and they are not streaming to twitch either, right?
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
July 29 2014 01:12 GMT
#39
On July 29 2014 10:09 BreAKerTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 09:58 renkin wrote:
To stream on twitch instead of DailyMotion, which would give them more revenue, is risky for them.
That explains why they're not livestreaming ( as the matches would start at 3 AM ) but only restreaming at a more managable hour.


You guys are aware that NeoTV is in Charge of the Chinese Language broadcast and they are not streaming to twitch either, right?

Is twitch even allowed in China?
orangeorange
Profile Joined October 2012
134 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-29 01:21:55
July 29 2014 01:21 GMT
#40
On July 29 2014 05:54 WGT-Baal wrote:
It s good for the casual audience I guess.

P&T are popular and fun to a point. Funka s great too!
I don't like Anoss and the others, Moman is fun.

But overall it s not very professional in my opinion, esp. as opposed to Tastosis for instance. The best French caster imho is ToD, and he casts in English...

We'll see how it goes, but more languages can only be a good thing


Agree that ToD is probably the best French caster; has the best game knowledge by far since he's an actual serious player, and he has enough flair in his casting to not be boring to most players, even more casual ones (though maybe the most casual viewers would find him too analytic, I don't know). I enjoy his casting in both French and English...too bad he's only one man and can't do both all the time :p

That said, I'm still very happy with Pomf & Thud casting GSL.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 29 2014 01:22 GMT
#41
On July 29 2014 04:54 Rikudou wrote:
i thought most of the french fanbase prefers dailymotion.. so why streaming on twitch?
they want to push the french fanbase, but with twitch..


French viewers don't care for Twitch / Daily

Only the streamer usually care, because Dailymotion is willing to help a lot, and they also pay way better.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
EJK
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States1302 Posts
July 29 2014 02:24 GMT
#42
On July 29 2014 10:22 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 04:54 Rikudou wrote:
i thought most of the french fanbase prefers dailymotion.. so why streaming on twitch?
they want to push the french fanbase, but with twitch..


French viewers don't care for Twitch / Daily

Only the streamer usually care, because Dailymotion is willing to help a lot, and they also pay way better.

Oh rlly? Compared to twitch
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
July 29 2014 02:27 GMT
#43
On July 29 2014 07:57 Faust852 wrote:
Considering France is the 2nd most represented nationality on TL, that's probably the same, if not the biggest SC2 community of SC2.


Really? Source please. No way France has more TL users than the US or Germany, so it's the 3rd at best.
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Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
July 29 2014 02:39 GMT
#44
On July 29 2014 11:27 endy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 07:57 Faust852 wrote:
Considering France is the 2nd most represented nationality on TL, that's probably the same, if not the biggest SC2 community of SC2.


Really? Source please. No way France has more TL users than the US or Germany, so it's the 3rd at best.


USA 22.9%
France 10,3%
Sweden 5,8%
Canada 5,5%
Germany 5,4%

So yes, France > Germany by a huge margin.

Source
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-29 02:43:25
July 29 2014 02:41 GMT
#45
What's the ESL drama everyone's talking about? Didn't follow that...

Edit: Oh right, something about ESL imposing Twitch and French broadcast wanting to use Dailymotion I guess.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
July 29 2014 02:44 GMT
#46
On July 29 2014 11:41 ZenithM wrote:
What's the ESL drama everyone's talking about? Didn't follow that...

Edit: Oh right, something about ESL imposing Twitch and French broadcast wanting to use Dailymotion I guess.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/443519-ogaming-millenium-aaa-and-esl-dispute-french-stream-for-wcs-europe
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
July 29 2014 02:52 GMT
#47
On July 29 2014 11:44 Faust852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 11:41 ZenithM wrote:
What's the ESL drama everyone's talking about? Didn't follow that...

Edit: Oh right, something about ESL imposing Twitch and French broadcast wanting to use Dailymotion I guess.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/443519-ogaming-millenium-aaa-and-esl-dispute-french-stream-for-wcs-europe

Thank you, I remember now ^^.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
July 29 2014 02:59 GMT
#48
On July 29 2014 11:39 Faust852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 11:27 endy wrote:
On July 29 2014 07:57 Faust852 wrote:
Considering France is the 2nd most represented nationality on TL, that's probably the same, if not the biggest SC2 community of SC2.


Really? Source please. No way France has more TL users than the US or Germany, so it's the 3rd at best.


USA 22.9%
France 10,3%
Sweden 5,8%
Canada 5,5%
Germany 5,4%

So yes, France > Germany by a huge margin.

Source


Hmmm I always though Alexa was collecting data through their toolbar which is not accurate at all. I'll ask the "ask TL staff anything thread". Thanks for the reply though.
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Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
July 29 2014 03:12 GMT
#49
Starcraft may no long be cresting but it really does have a sort of quite strength, always in the top 3 - 6 of all twitch channels. Not as much player support, or casting for that matter, but the tournaments are getting solid viewership now that (I believe) we aren't over saturated with weekly tournaments.

Also, I'm very happy with the EU scene continuing to expand!
BreAKerTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan1658 Posts
July 29 2014 03:17 GMT
#50
On July 29 2014 02:19 Yhamm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 02:15 boxerfred wrote:
On July 29 2014 01:09 Yhamm wrote:
surprised they are casting this on Twitch when we know what they did with ESL

are you referring to that esl vs. ogaming drama, or any actually gsl-related stuff?

referring to the fact they whined that ESL didn't let them cast WCS Europe on Dailymotion, complaining that casting on Twitch meant a loss of money
so yeah, I'm surprised to see them casting GSL Code A on twitch, considering that all matches are already played

That was not ogaming, I believe that was actually MilleniumTV.
Retired caster / streamer "BingeHD". Digital Nomad.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
July 29 2014 03:22 GMT
#51
On July 29 2014 12:17 BreAKerTV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 02:19 Yhamm wrote:
On July 29 2014 02:15 boxerfred wrote:
On July 29 2014 01:09 Yhamm wrote:
surprised they are casting this on Twitch when we know what they did with ESL

are you referring to that esl vs. ogaming drama, or any actually gsl-related stuff?

referring to the fact they whined that ESL didn't let them cast WCS Europe on Dailymotion, complaining that casting on Twitch meant a loss of money
so yeah, I'm surprised to see them casting GSL Code A on twitch, considering that all matches are already played

That was not ogaming, I believe that was actually MilleniumTV.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/443519-ogaming-millenium-aaa-and-esl-dispute-french-stream-for-wcs-europe

Ogaming, Millenium and aAa.
Pharaphobia
Profile Joined October 2013
Czech Republic58 Posts
July 29 2014 05:07 GMT
#52
I would ask everyone who are complaining about it if their lives are perfect without single mistake or thing they are not proud of... I mean okay they had some problems with ESL so? Its a past and they are trying to bring fresh content for french ppl. You guys already forget how amazing was crowd at Nation Wars? (Hell I would love to see that in my country on some SC tourney)... It's great idea and I support that, also the idea that it would be in more languages in good and bad

1.) it would decrease number of viewers on main gsl stream (dead game Kappa spam inc...)
2.) less income from ads
3.) less chance to get subs

But, I'm not an expert so we will see how it willl go.
http://twitch.tv/Pharaphobia
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-29 05:48:40
July 29 2014 05:47 GMT
#53
^
1)people that watched the english stream won't switch to the french one. Because they know how poor the knowledge of french casters is and how good is Artosis one. You watch GSL for the highest level of play, so you need the highest level of commentary to understand it.
French cast will just bring casual and non english speaker to watch the show.
2)a little income is still more than no income at all.
3)see 1).
Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
July 29 2014 05:57 GMT
#54
I love O'Gaming as an organisation, but i have to say i really dont like their cast. I'm happy it will get more people getting into GSL, gotta love the constant involvment from O'Gaming in SC2.
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Opera
Profile Joined March 2011
France469 Posts
July 29 2014 06:07 GMT
#55
It's probably a good news from OGTV, but the fact that they won't cast the games live is a huge drawback imo. Also, even if P&T cast all games without their usual parasites, the casting will still be worse than Tastosis.

I don't think it will bring so many viewers the experience lasts for more than one season.
It ain't over till it's over
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 29 2014 06:34 GMT
#56
I think the timezone will hurt them. A lot.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
July 29 2014 06:35 GMT
#57
On July 29 2014 15:34 boxerfred wrote:
I think the timezone will hurt them. A lot.

it's rebroacasted.
LoneYoShi
Profile Blog Joined June 2014
France1348 Posts
July 29 2014 07:21 GMT
#58
I think the re-broadcast is a good idea. Obviously the hardcore fans will watch it live, but I think most of the hardcore audience is used to watching it in english by now, and probably won't switch back to French. On the other hand, a re-broadcast allows the O'Gaming crew to get those who can't watch due to work/school, but are just too lazy to check up the VODs. I'm definitely one of those: I follow results live at work, but I don't bother firing up the VODs when I get home. But if I were to get home as the GSL is rebroadcast, I'd probably tune in for the groups with players I really want to see.

Plus, they still get all their usual audience (which I think is more casual players oriented). I'm quite curious to see how this will turn out !
SatedSC2
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
England3012 Posts
July 29 2014 08:06 GMT
#59
--- Nuked ---
WGT-Baal
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
France3392 Posts
July 29 2014 08:15 GMT
#60
On July 29 2014 06:52 Cazimirbzh wrote:
Show nested quote +
But overall it s not very professional in my opinion, esp. as opposed to Tastosis for instance


Tastosis have been casting for 4 years in korea...they're just caster they dont run their own prod business with events
also (i hope) maybe gomtv will ask for a cast with some standards.

Show nested quote +
I'm surprised to see them casting GSL Code A on twitch,

tonight, more then one folks was ban on their chat for saying " but Coda A is over?" ^^
but u think casting old matchs on the same schedule as will be next Code S/A in order to start gathering an audience
is a bad move from them?

WCS is a different world than GSL, gomtv/ Gomxp demise is the first clue



You re missing my point. I have the utmost respect for P&T and their production (al of O'Gaming actually). What I meant was that as casters (and just casters) Tastosis sound more professional. Because in the end, I only care about the match and the commentary, not whatever comes in between.
I like good inputs, and a decent analysis.

For offline events, O'Gaming does an amazing job, I am not arguing that. In the end though, I don't think the target audience is the same.

As for twitch over DM, it's annoying for me as Twitch lags as hell, but GSL s already on twitch so I won't see any difference.. (yay for SPL on youtube!)
Horang2 fan
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 29 2014 08:17 GMT
#61
On July 29 2014 15:35 Faust852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 15:34 boxerfred wrote:
I think the timezone will hurt them. A lot.

it's rebroacasted.

can we get an english/german rebroadcast somewhere? This is great!
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-29 08:20:27
July 29 2014 08:19 GMT
#62
On July 29 2014 14:07 Pharaphobia wrote:
I would ask everyone who are complaining about it if their lives are perfect without single mistake or thing they are not proud of... I mean okay they had some problems with ESL so? Its a past and they are trying to bring fresh content for french ppl. You guys already forget how amazing was crowd at Nation Wars? (Hell I would love to see that in my country on some SC tourney)... It's great idea and I support that, also the idea that it would be in more languages in good and bad

1.) it would decrease number of viewers on main gsl stream (dead game Kappa spam inc...)
2.) less income from ads
3.) less chance to get subs

But, I'm not an expert so we will see how it willl go.


Yes, what's past is past. Given time, people will get over it, with emphasis on given time.

On July 29 2014 17:17 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 15:35 Faust852 wrote:
On July 29 2014 15:34 boxerfred wrote:
I think the timezone will hurt them. A lot.

it's rebroacasted.

can we get an english/german rebroadcast somewhere? This is great!


I don't know. To be honest, I'd rather see the German casters concentrating on live events. I wouldn't be that interested in rebroadcasts. :-/
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
July 29 2014 08:20 GMT
#63
On July 29 2014 17:17 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 15:35 Faust852 wrote:
On July 29 2014 15:34 boxerfred wrote:
I think the timezone will hurt them. A lot.

it's rebroacasted.

can we get an english/german rebroadcast somewhere? This is great!

We should ask for a reboadcast of GSL at a better time yeah, would be cool.
b0zz
Profile Joined June 2014
France20 Posts
July 29 2014 08:47 GMT
#64
I suppose that's good news for those who dont have the opportunity to watch the live.. However, a low quality restream.. seriously? That's lame.

And since the games have been already played, an in depth analysis would have been more interesting in my opinion. Just pick a few interesting games and that's it.

b0zzo @ twitch chat multiple times GSL winner
MaNGi
Profile Joined August 2011
22 Posts
July 29 2014 09:11 GMT
#65
i think we gonna have GSL on french TV soon. (Game one), not this season, but the next one.
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
July 29 2014 10:35 GMT
#66
On July 29 2014 17:06 SatedSC2 wrote:
Won't cast on Twitch for ESL. Kicks up a massive fuss. Casts on Twitch anyway.

Bit of a joke...

Different stories, different contracts too. There is plenty of things that happened between the alliance between of aAa/M and O'GamingTV and now.
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SC2Kerri
Profile Joined November 2010
France91 Posts
July 29 2014 11:06 GMT
#67
Hello Guys,

To answer your question , we are on an hybrid player we developped . The Cast is on Twitch, the ads on Dailymotion.
With that new player we are able to have discussion & negociation with external tournament, that we did with Global Star League.

Regarding the schedule , from begining of the code S we'll cast the same day matches are played, from 5pm to midnight (on european timing zone), with the replay.

We are late for code A as we were focus on Nation Wars 2 production.

Hope it helps
RGDS
Kerri
O'Gaming SC2 Producer / Nation Wars /Iron Squid / External Tournament Parternership
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 29 2014 11:22 GMT
#68
On July 29 2014 20:06 SC2Kerri wrote:
Hello Guys,

To answer your question , we are on an hybrid player we developped . The Cast is on Twitch, the ads on Dailymotion.
With that new player we are able to have discussion & negociation with external tournament, that we did with Global Star League.

Regarding the schedule , from begining of the code S we'll cast the same day matches are played, from 5pm to midnight (on european timing zone), with the replay.

We are late for code A as we were focus on Nation Wars 2 production.

Hope it helps
RGDS
Kerri


Kind of sucks for you people to be forced to play on Twitch, I hope for you guys that this will change next year!
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
July 29 2014 11:57 GMT
#69
On July 29 2014 02:56 Sakray wrote:
Rofl, after the OG/ESL drama, I can only laugh to this.
French scene is really becoming one hell of a joke

WTH is wrong with you dude ? What is the negative point of having GSL casted in French ? Sorry to not being able to get it.
Afaic, good job to GOM and Ogaming !
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
July 29 2014 12:04 GMT
#70
On July 29 2014 01:14 Nebuchad wrote:
I may be wrong about that, but I think most of the french people who post on TL will choose english cast over french cast if they have a choice. I could certainly go back and listen to a french cast afterwards to get a second view (especially from the o'gaming casters who deliver some good fun casts a lot of the time), but for the live I've almost always picked english cast.

I'm pretty sure there are a lot of French fans who will watch. Afaic, if both were at the same time I would probably watch the French stream most of the time, although I understand English without problem. Now they're not at the same time, so it will mostly depend on whether I can watch live or not.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
July 29 2014 12:04 GMT
#71
On July 29 2014 20:06 SC2Kerri wrote:
Hello Guys,

To answer your question , we are on an hybrid player we developped . The Cast is on Twitch, the ads on Dailymotion.
With that new player we are able to have discussion & negociation with external tournament, that we did with Global Star League.

Regarding the schedule , from begining of the code S we'll cast the same day matches are played, from 5pm to midnight (on european timing zone), with the replay.

We are late for code A as we were focus on Nation Wars 2 production.

Hope it helps
RGDS
Kerri


having the actual replays of GSL... I might start to work for Ogaming haha.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
July 29 2014 14:17 GMT
#72
On July 29 2014 20:57 samurai80 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 02:56 Sakray wrote:
Rofl, after the OG/ESL drama, I can only laugh to this.
French scene is really becoming one hell of a joke

WTH is wrong with you dude ? What is the negative point of having GSL casted in French ? Sorry to not being able to get it.
Afaic, good job to GOM and Ogaming !

there is none, that is just french culture to whine about everything
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
July 29 2014 14:33 GMT
#73
On July 29 2014 20:06 SC2Kerri wrote:
Hello Guys,

To answer your question , we are on an hybrid player we developped . The Cast is on Twitch, the ads on Dailymotion.
With that new player we are able to have discussion & negociation with external tournament, that we did with Global Star League.

Regarding the schedule , from begining of the code S we'll cast the same day matches are played, from 5pm to midnight (on european timing zone), with the replay.

We are late for code A as we were focus on Nation Wars 2 production.

Hope it helps
RGDS
Kerri


This is pretty awesome.
P&T must be so happy, i remember them talking about GSL in their very first casts, it seemed like a dream to them...And now the dream has come true.

Never bet against France.
Never.
RIP MKP
ppp
Profile Joined March 2013
174 Posts
July 29 2014 14:53 GMT
#74
On July 29 2014 17:20 Faust852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 17:17 boxerfred wrote:
On July 29 2014 15:35 Faust852 wrote:
On July 29 2014 15:34 boxerfred wrote:
I think the timezone will hurt them. A lot.

it's rebroacasted.

can we get an english/german rebroadcast somewhere? This is great!

We should ask for a reboadcast of GSL at a better time yeah, would be cool.

19$ usd :D
Cazimirbzh
Profile Joined February 2014
334 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-29 17:18:22
July 29 2014 17:03 GMT
#75
Les gouts et les couleurs^^
Tastosis sound more professional. Because in the end, I only care about the match and the commentary, not whatever comes in between.
I like good inputs, and a decent analysis.


i mute 3/4 streams because only good players do "good inputs, and a decent analysis." like, as u already said, Tod or even crank i listened to scarlet, it was so....good :p
for the example of Tastosis, i prefer to come back on this point where i disagree
not whatever comes in between.

because, i think it something that need to be improve in order to make sc2 more attractive, to make it a real show. that's why i looovvveee proleague and ties when they switch off the lights^^ same with ceremonies (ez taunt on flash cause of his ruler XD.)

i think it'll help to realize my dream : to see sc2 on top3(50k) or even a top5(20k)

twitch.tv
League of Legends 189,988 Viewers
Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft 58,252 Viewers
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive 45,505 Viewers
Dota 2 35,270 Viewers
DayZ 18,878 Viewers
StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm 15,782 Viewers
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/starcraft-2/460778-top-50-streamers-in-june-2014#Monthly
we have numbers, player stream is slowly going down, same with events
pple want contents not top player laddering best examples are destiny, winter and avilo^^

ps: gsl release replays......this his really the end :p
pss:
to whine about everything
if u dont whine, nothing will ever change

EtBIM
Profile Joined May 2014
France1 Post
July 29 2014 17:37 GMT
#76
On July 29 2014 23:33 shid0x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 20:06 SC2Kerri wrote:
Hello Guys,

To answer your question , we are on an hybrid player we developped . The Cast is on Twitch, the ads on Dailymotion.
With that new player we are able to have discussion & negociation with external tournament, that we did with Global Star League.

Regarding the schedule , from begining of the code S we'll cast the same day matches are played, from 5pm to midnight (on european timing zone), with the replay.

We are late for code A as we were focus on Nation Wars 2 production.

Hope it helps
RGDS
Kerri


This is pretty awesome.
P&T must be so happy, i remember them talking about GSL in their very first casts, it seemed like a dream to them...And now the dream has come true.

Never bet against France.
Never.




Yeah maybe you haven't realized but GSL is not what it used to be anymore, a lot of good Koreans are playing elsewhere, and there is SPL... It lost it's prestige.
Still, good for them but i won't be watching as their cast is terrible. I really think they would gain alot by actually playing the game at a high level, they have been commentating replays of pros for a while now and they still have no idea what they're talking about.
hfsrj
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany166 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-29 21:08:06
July 29 2014 21:06 GMT
#77
Personally I love Tastosis because of the atmosphere rather than because they perfectly know the game. They do know it pretty well though, which balances out perfectly.

P&T don't provide great analysis, but actually most casters don't, there are so many times in so many tournaments where the commentators don't really have a clue.

But at least P&T are super fun and joyful to hear. So while I'll still keep watching GSL in english mostly, I'll probably skip to french on occasions for the fun.
miniskirt
Profile Joined December 2012
France487 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-29 22:28:20
July 29 2014 22:24 GMT
#78
I'm glad GSL is rebroadcasted (take that ESL), even though i mostly switched to csgo

but:
On July 29 2014 20:06 SC2Kerri wrote:
Hello Guys,

To answer your question , we are on an hybrid player we developped . The Cast is on Twitch, the ads on Dailymotion.
With that new player we are able to have discussion & negociation with external tournament, that we did with Global Star League.

??

how do you think twitch will feel about this player blatantly stealing ad time?

how calmly you talk about this offensive and possibly illegal move is beyond me...
Self-proclaimed best Feast and Grubby fan | also MVP MMA Fantasy Polt forGG Dayshi the french hope| Leenock, the sober version of stephano and Scarlett cutiepie <3
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
July 30 2014 01:27 GMT
#79
On July 29 2014 23:53 ppp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 17:20 Faust852 wrote:
On July 29 2014 17:17 boxerfred wrote:
On July 29 2014 15:35 Faust852 wrote:
On July 29 2014 15:34 boxerfred wrote:
I think the timezone will hurt them. A lot.

it's rebroacasted.

can we get an english/german rebroadcast somewhere? This is great!

We should ask for a reboadcast of GSL at a better time yeah, would be cool.

19$ usd :D

Not asking for VODs but a rebroadcast :p
LeviathanDK
Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark87 Posts
July 30 2014 04:15 GMT
#80
Never been a fan of Ogaming and this isn't helping, GSL code A casters are better than everything else outthere except: Khaldor and WCS EU casters "not counting Ret amongst these"!!
Pharaphobia
Profile Joined October 2013
Czech Republic58 Posts
July 30 2014 06:11 GMT
#81
It's not going down because it lost popularity... I mean yes it's not as much popular as it was, but in my opinion it is most likely because streamers and pros were used to get way more money... Now those streamers being r*ped by low ad revenue and sub button nolife streamers... Also a lot of them were watching stream of each other to stalk strats etc. so I can understand that most of the streamers just left and stream occasionally.

The thing with casters...I fall to little bit same circle as they do. I tryed to cast and then they let my cast a "big" local Starcraft cup. I know I CANT prolly match it with gsl, but even new fishes and new casters need a place to practice their cast with a feedback. Well GSL might not be best, but they are not that bad and mOOnGlaDe is former KR GM player so there should be some game analysis. I hope their casting skill will raise with time so it will gain the prestige back.

P.S: If someone try to respond with that StarCraft is being repetive. Hell you are watching same Counter Strike maps for ore than 10 years with in 3 different versions of the game.. League is actually one map... so I don't know kev about repetive games ...
http://twitch.tv/Pharaphobia
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
July 30 2014 12:54 GMT
#82
On July 30 2014 07:24 miniskirt wrote:
I'm glad GSL is rebroadcasted (take that ESL), even though i mostly switched to csgo

but:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 20:06 SC2Kerri wrote:
Hello Guys,

To answer your question , we are on an hybrid player we developped . The Cast is on Twitch, the ads on Dailymotion.
With that new player we are able to have discussion & negociation with external tournament, that we did with Global Star League.

??

how do you think twitch will feel about this player blatantly stealing ad time?

how calmly you talk about this offensive and possibly illegal move is beyond me...

"(Take that ESL)"? Seriously?!

Go back to CS:GO, seriously, and stay there. ESL is doing so much for the scene, organizing things in a decent, professional way. And somehow, they are able to do all of this on twitch. I love O'Gamings efforts here, though I'm not french and won't ever turn in to that stream. But that negativity towards ESL is really stupid and useless.
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 15:33:35
July 30 2014 15:11 GMT
#83
Will ogaming enable their stream on TL for each broadcast ?
Just asking because its live now and not on TL^^

edit : the ads i see are twitch ones and not daily lolwut
edit2 : I guess having the correct API to show the correct vieweship on TL is gonna be a bit weird
RIP MKP
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
July 30 2014 18:11 GMT
#84
On July 29 2014 20:06 SC2Kerri wrote:
Hello Guys,

To answer your question , we are on an hybrid player we developped . The Cast is on Twitch, the ads on Dailymotion.
With that new player we are able to have discussion & negociation with external tournament, that we did with Global Star League.

Kerri


Wait is this legal and does twitch know about it? That's like a tv show being aired on Fox, but NBC is getting the ad revenue for the show.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
August 01 2014 03:51 GMT
#85
On July 29 2014 11:39 Faust852 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 11:27 endy wrote:
On July 29 2014 07:57 Faust852 wrote:
Considering France is the 2nd most represented nationality on TL, that's probably the same, if not the biggest SC2 community of SC2.


Really? Source please. No way France has more TL users than the US or Germany, so it's the 3rd at best.


USA 22.9%
France 10,3%
Sweden 5,8%
Canada 5,5%
Germany 5,4%

So yes, France > Germany by a huge margin.

Source


Ha I knew that couldn't be true:

On July 31 2014 20:48 wo1fwood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 12:02 endy wrote:
What is the users distribution by country?
If possible, I'd like to know the distribution of registered users, and the distribution of page views.
Thanks!

Going by last week alone the top 10 dist is (#sessions):
  • USA: 235k
  • DE: 143k
  • CA: 80k
  • FR: 61k
  • SW: 41k
  • UK: 34k
  • PL: 28k
  • AU: 26k
  • NL: 21k
  • SK: 20k
FYI These aren't # reg users, but unique sessions by country.
ॐ
TheSaninou
Profile Joined June 2011
France3 Posts
August 01 2014 15:27 GMT
#86
Hi,
When will the Gsl French channel will be featured on TL?
VaySept
Profile Joined April 2011
France39 Posts
August 01 2014 15:48 GMT
#87
On August 02 2014 00:27 TheSaninou wrote:
Hi,
When will the Gsl French channel will be featured on TL?

Hopefully never.
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