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neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
July 01 2014 12:46 GMT
#41
On July 01 2014 18:44 Maenander wrote:
It's hardly surprising that top players know the weaknesses of their own race and can execute all-ins with other races against their own race that are highly successful. There have been examples of that even in SC-BW.

The only example I can think of was Savior playing as Terran against Zerg a lot in practice and trying it in once live match and getting horribly destroyed.
hellokitty[hk]
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1309 Posts
July 01 2014 12:52 GMT
#42
On July 01 2014 17:43 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 17:24 hellokitty[hk] wrote:
I uninstall sc2, brb.

RIP

Back.
I reinstall so I can uninstall again, brb.

BTW 10/10 would recommend, felt really good.
People are imbeciles, lucky thing god made cats.
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 13:28:49
July 01 2014 13:26 GMT
#43
On July 01 2014 21:52 hellokitty[hk] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 17:43 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On July 01 2014 17:24 hellokitty[hk] wrote:
I uninstall sc2, brb.

RIP

Back.
I reinstall so I can uninstall again, brb.

BTW 10/10 would recommend, felt really good.

So technically the maximum satisfaction and pleasure would be:
Get home
Play ladder
Uninstall sc2
Reinstall overnight
Repeat next day ?

I see a business opportunity
"we reinstall your sc2 daily so you can uninstall for guaranteed satisfaction, call us 555uninstall"
Life - forever the Legend in my heart
TheBloodyDwarf
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Finland7524 Posts
July 01 2014 14:05 GMT
#44
On July 01 2014 16:55 Mahtasooma wrote:
Exciting.
But in all honesty, this made me lose all respect for the game. I literally cannot play this game anymore.

When a foreign Zerg "practices a Protoss build a bit" with other foreigners, and that's enough to win against a GSL Champion who reacted perfectly, didn't overdrone, didn't slip with his macro or micro, had tons of queens, lings and a spine in place...
There is just something wrong. I don't think this can even be debated.

DRG reacted wrong
Fusilero: "I still can't believe he did that, like dude what the fuck there's fandom and then there's what he did like holy shit. I still see it when I close my eyes." <- reaction to the original drunk santa post which later caught on
SocialFox
Profile Joined July 2012
Russian Federation16 Posts
July 01 2014 14:20 GMT
#45
One of my worst memories of all times when I gave in to nostalgia and went to see WC3 tournament for a bit. I stumbled upon my favorite human players fighting each other. "Human mirror! I love human mirror" was the last thought before I saw that both of them play disgusting elves
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 14:28:43
July 01 2014 14:27 GMT
#46
Anybody can beat anybody in SC2. It just can happen way more with Protoss. It is more of a failure of design rather than balance.
T P Z sagi
Jer99
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada8159 Posts
July 01 2014 14:31 GMT
#47
On July 01 2014 23:05 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 16:55 Mahtasooma wrote:
Exciting.
But in all honesty, this made me lose all respect for the game. I literally cannot play this game anymore.

When a foreign Zerg "practices a Protoss build a bit" with other foreigners, and that's enough to win against a GSL Champion who reacted perfectly, didn't overdrone, didn't slip with his macro or micro, had tons of queens, lings and a spine in place...
There is just something wrong. I don't think this can even be debated.

DRG reacted wrong


Very very wrongly
StrategyTaeJa #1 || @TL_Jer99 || "seeker seeked out his seeking"
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
July 01 2014 14:34 GMT
#48
On July 01 2014 16:55 Mahtasooma wrote:
Exciting.
But in all honesty, this made me lose all respect for the game. I literally cannot play this game anymore.

When a foreign Zerg "practices a Protoss build a bit" with other foreigners, and that's enough to win against a GSL Champion who reacted perfectly, didn't overdrone, didn't slip with his macro or micro, had tons of queens, lings and a spine in place...
There is just something wrong. I don't think this can even be debated.


OBVIOUSLY, he did not react correctly. Or he'd have won.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Thyrym
Profile Joined December 2013
89 Posts
July 01 2014 14:47 GMT
#49
[/kappa]Could not hold an 7gate all in with only speedlings?
Clearly protoss OP
[/kappa}

User was warned for this post
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
July 01 2014 14:56 GMT
#50
gogogo Scarlett!!

happy Canada day
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
July 01 2014 15:01 GMT
#51
People lose bo1s all the time

why bring balance into the picture at all?
If you don't like it, you can quit.
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-01 15:13:31
July 01 2014 15:01 GMT
#52
Catz pointed out the mistake DRG was making during the game (in his cast with Day9). He was saying that DRG was doing a greedy and risky build by taking three hatches so fast without any real upgrades.

Just think about it objectively. Scarlett is obviously not a protoss player, what possible strategy could a relatively inexperienced player do that could be successful as protoss? Something that does not require an intimate knowledge of a race and its capabilities? There is only one answer, an all-in or some kind of early timing attack.

For some reason DRG thought otherwise, he played greedy, and left himself susceptible to an early timing attack, probably the *only* type of attack that Scarlett could ever hope to master. It was a really poor decision; in hindsight this is literally the only thing DRG should have been preparing for, and he could have easily won a macro game if he played safely.

I wouldn't blame the game on this one, I think DRG just underestimated Scarlett and assumed he could win being greedy
kiralykobra
Profile Joined May 2013
Romania7 Posts
July 01 2014 15:13 GMT
#53
Scarlett saved SC2 with this game! If anything, this is a perfect illustration that Protoss can win without too much effort. Thank you Scarlett! I hope that David Kim saw this game.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24593 Posts
July 01 2014 15:17 GMT
#54
This is amazing and one of the most refreshing moments in sc2.

Plus Jaedong sux.
Obeast96
Profile Joined October 2012
United States106 Posts
July 01 2014 15:21 GMT
#55
I wanna see a showmatch between Scarlett's Zerg and Protoss vs TheLittleOne's Zerg and Terran.
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
July 01 2014 15:22 GMT
#56
On July 01 2014 21:46 neobowman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 18:44 Maenander wrote:
It's hardly surprising that top players know the weaknesses of their own race and can execute all-ins with other races against their own race that are highly successful. There have been examples of that even in SC-BW.

The only example I can think of was Savior playing as Terran against Zerg a lot in practice and trying it in once live match and getting horribly destroyed.


Wasn't race switching disallowed for the last couple of years in Kespa tournaments? BTW, if Zerg Royal was a map in individual tournaments I think Flash would have had more chance to beat Jaedong on it with Zerg than with Terran.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
Redrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States446 Posts
July 01 2014 16:15 GMT
#57
On July 01 2014 17:43 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 17:24 hellokitty[hk] wrote:
I uninstall sc2, brb.

RIP

rip in pepperonis mate
I root for CJ because their fb posts are hilarious
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
July 01 2014 17:17 GMT
#58
Good lord people are irrational.
Refer to my post.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
July 01 2014 18:29 GMT
#59
On July 01 2014 21:21 xtorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 18:43 Tuczniak wrote:
On July 01 2014 17:55 lichter wrote:
On July 01 2014 17:43 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On July 01 2014 17:24 hellokitty[hk] wrote:
I uninstall sc2, brb.

RIP


how does it feel to be a dirty protoss
Did Scarlett at least apologize for playing that race?

Why exactly should she apologize ?!
She is a pro that can learn a race in a fraction of the time it takes for others to learn, and she proved it. She owes apologies to no one.

Good vid. Scarlett wrote history that day, every sc2 player and their mother is grateful for it.


el oh el how can't you get the reference? you're not into starcraft if you didn't get that
maru lover forever
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
July 01 2014 18:38 GMT
#60
On July 01 2014 17:55 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2014 17:43 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On July 01 2014 17:24 hellokitty[hk] wrote:
I uninstall sc2, brb.

RIP


how does it feel to be a dirty protoss

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