EPTOn the match, DRG did not scout and got punished. Also, he was on less wokers than Scarlett which is not a very comfortable position to be in as a Zerg trying to hold the continuous onslaught of Protoss units
Scarlett as toss vs DRG audience POV - Page 2
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tar
Germany991 Posts
On the match, DRG did not scout and got punished. Also, he was on less wokers than Scarlett which is not a very comfortable position to be in as a Zerg trying to hold the continuous onslaught of Protoss units | ||
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Anacreor
Netherlands291 Posts
On July 01 2014 16:55 Mahtasooma wrote: Exciting. But in all honesty, this made me lose all respect for the game. I literally cannot play this game anymore. When a foreign Zerg "practices a Protoss build a bit" with other foreigners, and that's enough to win against a GSL Champion who reacted perfectly, didn't overdrone, didn't slip with his macro or micro, had tons of queens, lings and a spine in place... There is just something wrong. I don't think this can even be debated. It's a one time thing man. This is unique and you should enjoy it, instead of turning it into an argument. And with that, Scarlett's toss is GM level. Meaning that if she catches DRG offguard both mentally and ingame, she stands a chance. Which is what happened! Crazy, I love it! :D | ||
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iloveav
Poland1479 Posts
On July 01 2014 16:55 Mahtasooma wrote: Exciting. But in all honesty, this made me lose all respect for the game. I literally cannot play this game anymore. When a foreign Zerg "practices a Protoss build a bit" with other foreigners, and that's enough to win against a GSL Champion who reacted perfectly, didn't overdrone, didn't slip with his macro or micro, had tons of queens, lings and a spine in place... There is just something wrong. I don't think this can even be debated. Its not that strange. When you play at a very high level you normally practiced all 3 races enought to understand them correctly. I actually did the same thing in broodwar once vs a player who was far better than me and won vs him because he had no idea what to expect. That beeing said, DRG dind scout that build at all. When he did know he was only capable of going ling/queen, and thats not exactly perfect. Its a great thing to do on stage, and it does feel cool to watch it (I actually scremed at home when i saw the win) but its not something as big as some crazy comebacks or similar. | ||
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DeadByDawn
United Kingdom476 Posts
There are other threads dealing with Protoss OP'ness, take your complaints there you will find many a sympathetic ear. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
Also: TH000. Granted, SC2 is a different game, but offracing and winning shouldn't be that shocking. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26224 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
I know a nasty reaper expand snipe build, don't hesitate to ask me for pro-tips. | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
On July 01 2014 19:58 Wombat_NI wrote: Such an enjoyable moment, that said I'd wager it's easier to do this with Protoss than the other races. Not really sure what DRG was thinking though, he scouted the one gas and there are few builds bar naked gateway allins that you do from there. He didn't get to scout the natural iirc, so he didn't know whether there was gasses taken there. | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
go scarlett | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26224 Posts
On July 01 2014 20:11 Saechiis wrote: He didn't get to scout the natural iirc, so he didn't know whether there was gasses taken there. I might rewatch it now actually, as that's perhaps what happened and would go a way to explaining DRG's sub-optimal response | ||
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Deleted User 261926
960 Posts
On July 01 2014 17:06 Mahtasooma wrote: If you could shed some light on that as to how he reacted improperly? I mean the fight was going on for a few minutes and his micro didn't slip... it wasn't just Scarlett walked in there and it was like "oopsie, DRG overdroned without defense, gg" What league are you not to know that lings don't hold a 6-7 gate? You need a roach warren and he did not have it. I play Z by the way, just to say I am not a protoss. | ||
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HaRuHi
1220 Posts
On July 01 2014 16:55 Mahtasooma wrote: Exciting. But in all honesty, this made me lose all respect for the game. I literally cannot play this game anymore. When a foreign Zerg "practices a Protoss build a bit" with other foreigners, and that's enough to win against a GSL Champion who reacted perfectly, didn't overdrone, didn't slip with his macro or micro, had tons of queens, lings and a spine in place... There is just something wrong. I don't think this can even be debated. This does not need to be debated, if what you were saying is true, then this build could not be stopped by zerg and protoss had a 100% winrate in that matchup. DRG did not play perfectly. | ||
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Amazonic
Sweden239 Posts
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xtorn
4060 Posts
On July 01 2014 18:43 Tuczniak wrote: Did Scarlett at least apologize for playing that race? Why exactly should she apologize ?! She is a pro that can learn a race in a fraction of the time it takes for others to learn, and she proved it. She owes apologies to no one. Good vid. Scarlett wrote history that day, every sc2 player and their mother is grateful for it. | ||
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Haku
Germany550 Posts
Rip in Peperoni BtT, i don´t think that Protoss is imbalanced just because Scarlett offraced a game and beat DRG. You have to keep some things in mind. First DRG isn´t in his best condition lately so you can´t just call him a former GSL Champion who got beaten by a foreign scrub. Scarlett is playing pretty well atm. The other thing is, i think Scarlett could not have won a macro game vs DRG. Practicing a build on a high level like Scarlett is, isn´t that big, doesn´t matter which race you play. If she just practiced the BO 40 times it does not take that long and is super hard to do. The last thing in my opinion is that DRG also did not reacted 100% perfect and everything together makes a win for Scarlett. | ||
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Xinzoe
Korea (South)2373 Posts
On July 01 2014 16:55 Mahtasooma wrote: Exciting. But in all honesty, this made me lose all respect for the game. I literally cannot play this game anymore. When a foreign Zerg "practices a Protoss build a bit" with other foreigners, and that's enough to win against a GSL Champion who reacted perfectly, didn't overdrone, didn't slip with his macro or micro, had tons of queens, lings and a spine in place... There is just something wrong. I don't think this can even be debated. in bo1 offrace anything can happen. even if its a platinum league vs GSL champion not to mention almost every progamer can off race at a low GM level anyway. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://s3.postimg.org/wm23fylab/scarlett.png) | ||
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antiRW
United Kingdom117 Posts
On July 01 2014 21:21 xtorn wrote: Why exactly should she apologize ?! She is a pro that can learn a race in a fraction of the time it takes for others to learn, and she proved it. She owes apologies to no one. Good vid. Scarlett wrote history that day, every sc2 player and their mother is grateful for it. Relax. That was just some friendly banter. | ||
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Deleted User 132135
702 Posts
On July 01 2014 20:58 HaRuHi wrote: This does not need to be debated, if what you were saying is true, then this build could not be stopped by zerg and protoss had a 100% winrate in that matchup. DRG did not play perfectly. I think the argument was not that it is unstoppable but that it is too easy to execute. Imo protoss all-ins are way too easy to execute and way too hard to hold (probably therefore nexus cannon was beneficial for pvp matchup). | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45176 Posts
On July 01 2014 17:22 Glioburd wrote: Thanks for the video. These point of views from the audience are always fun to watch. I lost all respect for this game long time ago. When you see Naniwa or Dayshi beating Jaedong, a win in offrace is nothing. We know that is not a game based on skill, simply on timing and reaction. Scarlett won the shifumi, but I'm happy for her Naniwa was one of the best foreigners in SC2,and Jaedong had notoriously tenuous ZvP o.O Anyways, congratulations to Scarlett for outplaying DRG that series | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
On July 01 2014 17:24 hellokitty[hk] wrote: I uninstall sc2, brb. LOL wow. | ||
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