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IcedBacon
Canada906 Posts
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monsta
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On February 01 2014 18:03 monsta wrote: Destiny? really? gosh these LoL fans Pretty sure the vast majority of people who watch him are from Starcraft 2. | ||
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LingBlingBling
United States353 Posts
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
Also dont use the word intelligent, it makes you look bad. | ||
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LingBlingBling
United States353 Posts
On February 01 2014 19:19 NukeD wrote: ^Oh you dont watch streams for entertainment? You also dont play games for entertainment I guess? Also dont use the word intelligent, it makes you look bad. This post makes you look bad. No one watches SC2 streams to watch someone act like a D-bag. Especially if that person has not streamed SC2 in over a year, and only streamed LOL. The fact that person gets awarded over someone like Desrow(who helps the sc2 community) is pathetic. And your pathetic if you watch SC2 streams to watch people rage or act like idiots, it makes you look bad. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On February 01 2014 19:19 NukeD wrote: ^Oh you dont watch streams for entertainment? You also dont play games for entertainment I guess? Also dont use the word intelligent, it makes you look bad. LingBling's post was terrible but no, some people do not watch streams for entertainment, or at least don't associate entertainment with the same things you do. God forbid some people just want to see really good plays, regardless of game. And likewise, look at many pros, they don't play for entertainment, they play because it's their job, and when their job becomes too frustrating they retire or switch to games they like better.  | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
On February 01 2014 19:45 LingBlingBling wrote: This post makes you look bad. No one watches SC2 streams to watch someone act like a D-bag. Especially if that person has not streamed SC2 in over a year, and only streamed LOL. The fact that person gets awarded over someone like Desrow(who helps the sc2 community) is pathetic. And your pathetic if you watch SC2 streams to watch people rage or act like idiots, it makes you look bad. Shut up already. 'no one watches' - Destiny's stream numbers. I hate pious little fucks like you who whine that other people dare to like something they don't see as meritorious. Not even a Destiny fan just this incessant bitching is beyond annoying. User was warned for this post | ||
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Fus
Sweden1112 Posts
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
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SinCitta
Germany2127 Posts
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NukeD
Croatia1612 Posts
On February 01 2014 19:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote: LingBling's post was terrible but no, some people do not watch streams for entertainment, or at least don't associate entertainment with the same things you do. God forbid some people just want to see really good plays, regardless of game. And likewise, look at many pros, they don't play for entertainment, they play because it's their job, and when their job becomes too frustrating they retire or switch to games they like better. Really good plays falls under the category of entertainment in my book. I agree on the pros not playing for entertainment tho. | ||
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lessQQmorePEWPEW
Jamaica921 Posts
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snailz
Croatia900 Posts
as for Destiny, there is a reason why his viewership is always most numerous, no matter who he competes with at the time. saying it's just cuz "people stupid" and calling him "entertainer" as if that was something bad is ridiculous. if anything, other personal streams should be more like his, and for top notch games we would always have tournaments. one could say that if we had less tournaments (ie. right now asus vs iem at the same timeslot is just hurting my brain), maybe the hype for the really really good players showing their skill would be bigger, cause you wouldn't get that dose of competitiveness from personal streams. in that way, more guys following destinies recipe would actually be helping "esports". easier to hate i guess... | ||
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Sufinsil
United States760 Posts
On February 01 2014 22:25 lessQQmorePEWPEW wrote: Wow.. blizz is getting pretty desperate.. stream awards.. really? looks like a PR move to me Desperate for what? It is a PR move. Why is any PR/marketing move by Blizzard seen as desperate? Nothing wrong with rewarding the people who promote your games and contribute to the community. | ||
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The_Templar
your Country52798 Posts
On February 02 2014 02:37 Sufinsil wrote: Desperate for what? It is a PR move. Why is any PR/marketing move by Blizzard seen as desperate? Nothing wrong with rewarding the people who promote your games and contribute to the community. Seriously, what can we do that mutually improves starcraft and sponsors/investors without making people complain? -_- | ||
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KoRStarvid
Sweden767 Posts
On February 01 2014 03:12 BisuDagger wrote: What you bolded is the part that confuses me. Are you genuinely saying he is the most prolific and dedicated sc2 streamer of 2013? Can you really say he put in more effort then Day9 to the sc2 scene? Considering Day9 got featured in Forbes for his work in sc2 I'm going to give you some time to develop a well worded reply to this. I don't see how a Forbes feature has anything to do with the qualities of their respective streams, but sure, that's cool. I wouldn't try to argue that Destiny is a more important eSports personality than Day[9]. But that is exactly my point - this isn't about who is the ambassador for Starcraft 2, this is about who puts out the best stream. Destiny streams way more than Day[9], any comparison between the two would look silly. Who puts in more effort? Day[9] has a professional and structured format, and probably spends several hours on preparations alone. Destiny on the other hand is more of an ad liber - he can get into almost any topic and make that funny or interesting, and he puts out way more hours of entertainment. But frankly, I don't give a damn who puts in more effort. What I do care about is what kind of entertainment I get. I know that for a large part of the day Destiny will be streaming, and I can watch that stream and have a good time. That's the only thing that matters. I'm not saying that the other streamers are bad though, it's just a matter of personal preference (and that's what we're voting on, isn't it?). I voted Day[9] in the educational category, I hope that satisfies your ego. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
On February 02 2014 02:44 The_Templar wrote: Seriously, what can we do that mutually improves starcraft and sponsors/investors without making people complain? -_- By all means, but giving extra cash to the likes of Day9, or Destiny just strikes me as a bit pointless. You're giving the streamers who are self-sustaining and make money out of it, more money, because they are popular enough to get the votes. Because they already have big channels. It's the same problem with Youtube these days, bigger channels just get bigger and bigger due to cross-promotion and the way the site currently works. It's Blizz's money so they can do what they wish with it, I just feel there are more intelligent ways to go about it. Publicising smaller streamers, more stuff in the client to show the varied content that people are producing. | ||
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KoRStarvid
Sweden767 Posts
On February 02 2014 03:48 Wombat_NI wrote: By all means, but giving extra cash to the likes of Day9, or Destiny just strikes me as a bit pointless. You're giving the streamers who are self-sustaining and make money out of it, more money, because they are popular enough to get the votes. Because they already have big channels. It's the same problem with Youtube these days, bigger channels just get bigger and bigger due to cross-promotion and the way the site currently works. It's Blizz's money so they can do what they wish with it, I just feel there are more intelligent ways to go about it. Publicising smaller streamers, more stuff in the client to show the varied content that people are producing. To be fair though, streamers hardly make alot of money from twitch nowadays. The ad-revenues are supposedly much lower than they were two years ago, and sustaining yourself by streaming relies alot on sponsorships, subscriptions and donations. And it's not like Blizzard are taking money from their game development budget - this is marketing resources being spent on dedicated streamers who have been promoting their games. I agree though that it's problematic that small streams are experiencing very limited growth due to the way that these services are set up, but that's just the name of the game I guess. | ||
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On February 02 2014 04:08 KoRStarvid wrote: To be fair though, streamers hardly make alot of money from twitch nowadays. The ad-revenues are supposedly much lower than they were two years ago, and sustaining yourself by streaming relies alot on sponsorships, subscriptions and donations. And it's not like Blizzard are taking money from their game development budget - this is marketing resources being spent on dedicated streamers who have been promoting their games. I agree though that it's problematic that small streams are experiencing very limited growth due to the way that these services are set up, but that's just the name of the game I guess. I don't know about SC2 streams nowadays, but the bigname Hearthstone streamers have a lot of subscribers and tend to get a lot of donations too so ad-revenue is not that big of a deal for them... | ||
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